For those of you who either have the Japanese game or a demo, and who also pay attention to the competitive scene, what do you think of Smash 4 so far? I don't think it'll happen, but do you think Smash 4 will draw some people away from Project M? Whatever thoughts you have as a competitive player/enthusiast, please post.

Also stealth "ifyouhaveanNAcodeIwouldlovetohaveit" post

It will be just as boring to watch as Melee and Project M and take just as long, so yes.

http://www.giantbomb.com/super-smash-bros/3030-35573/forums/fgc-gets-hands-on-smash-4-jp-demo-outlook-good-1494428/

I would just like to go on record and state that if anyone tries to add "Sm4sh" as an alias to the Super Smash Bros. wiki page, I will ban you.

Just kidding. But not really.

woah Mega Man Ken combos? I need a Japanese 3ds.

Actually I just need more money

Megaman is in the demo so you only need to wait till the 19th to try that stuff out.

It's fun to say though. Smuhfoursh.

@corruptedevil: yeah... I'm willing to be patient but the hype train and the code begging definitely isn't helping

It will draw everyone who is currently playing Project M away, and they will stay gone as long as the online is solid. Why play a knock off when you have the authentic thing? Nintendo seems to have been really embracing the competitive scene with all the tournaments leading up to launch and I would think they are going to continue that for the foreseeable future ensuring that the game always has a place with the FGC. Then again those people can be mad fickle so it is possible they all poo-poo it. What do I know.

The competitive Smash community is one of the grossest I've ever come across. I'd rank them with the average MOBA community.

@hailinel: Why?

I honestly didn't think Project M ever became a thing. I always assumed that competitive players stuck to their guns with Melee. I don't follow the scene except for the occasional twitch channels I play in the background while doing something else.

It's not used in professional tournaments due to it's active development status but there are a large amount of people playing online.

From my experience, they just screech if you try to play the game with them in any way but the "right" way (ex: No items, Final Destination). In that sense, they're no different from the worst competitive MOBA players, who will actively scream at other players for not being perfect clockwork soldiers. I've never come across a group so loathsome in how possessive they are of a game that was designed for a wide degree of match customization and, you know, having fun.

That argument doesn't work when people are playing casually and not in a competitive setting like a tournament.

No, what I'm saying is that you shouldn't get pissy if people try to play with items or other stages, which is exactly what the people I'm thinking of did.

I don't know, I never played Smash too seriously. Never thought it was that kind of game. There were games that I played however that needed some kind of "limits" to avoid throwing the balance out of the window. UMK3 comes to mind where me and my friends or whoever played with me had to ban a few characters or some cheap infinites. That game was just broken at high level play. Had loads of fun though. Or sometimes we'd allow anything and don't care about either winning or losing. Sometimes a losing performance was much more celebrated than a winning one like C. Sub Zero defeating Kabal or Human Smoke and such. Smash Bros strikes as that kind of game. I could be very, very wrong though.

Online? I thought Nintendo shut down the Wii's online functionality months ago? This just shows you how out of the loop I am.

Playing through Dolphin

It was more than one encounter, is all I'll say. And I'm not going to talk about that here any longer since this thread is being dragged off-topic. If you want to continue this, please take it to a PM.

I know you've buried this but I just want to say that as someone who is very active in the FGC, you're talking about the same vocal minority of assholes that exists in any community. Every Smash player I know/have come across has zero problems with people who want to have fun and play Smash whatever way they want. The only time you'll ever hear them talking about the "right" way to play Smash is in a tournament-level competitive sense. And that usually only comes up after someone else talks down on them for playing the game the way they want to play.