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    Game » consists of 28 releases. Released Feb 26, 2010

    Super Street Fighter IV is a standalone update to its predecessor, adding new characters, modes, and online features.

    Will you change your main in SSFIV

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    #101  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Stang said:

    " If anything Honda needs a nerf, chip damage from a blocked head butt should not cause 500 damage. "

    I think someone is exaggerating.
     
    Also, I like what Scooper said.
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    #102  Edited By JJOR64
    @Stang said:
    " If anything Honda needs a nerf, chip damage from a blocked head butt should not cause 500 damage. "

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    #103  Edited By Dan_CiTi

    I'd like to think Guile players at least fool around with Dee Jay, especially if Guile isn't as improved as he needs to be. 

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    #104  Edited By AniMoney
    @JJOR64 said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @Napalm: Vega obviously needs help, but Honda? I think you're subscribing to the old theory that Honda is somehow bad, when now pretty much everyone agrees he's in the top 8 characters. Any character that doesn't throw a fireball he dominates, and his ridiculous normal damage that he can do make him a serious threat to anyone but Sagat. "
    Agreed.  If they give something to help Honda, it should be jab headbutt through fireballs like in HDR.  Other then that, Honda is fine how he is. "
    lol no way man, ex maybe, but jab headbutt no
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    #105  Edited By lordofultima
    @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already. 
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    #106  Edited By AniMoney
    @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs.
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    #107  Edited By John1912

    I was always a Ryu/Ken player, but after remix kinda feel in love with Balrog.  He is now my best char, and will prob stay so, but I really want to give Dudley a run, and Makato a really good try alts or even mains.  After that ibuki, and Guy...After that I dont care about any of the new chars.

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    #108  Edited By misterpope

    MAKE KEN BETTER LOLZ.... 
     
    I actually probably won't change my main, just looking forward to the whole re-balancing thing. Shake some stuff up Capcom.
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    #109  Edited By lordofultima
    @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs. "
    Yeah man, the way Ultra II is looking everyone will just use that. Jab -> Hands -> FADC -> Ultra. THINK ABOUT IT.
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    #110  Edited By skrutop

    If Ibuki has speed similar to Cammy's, I'll probably play as her.  Otherwise, Adon looks interesting.

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    #111  Edited By lordofultima
    @skrutop said:
    " If Ibuki has speed similar to Cammy's, I'll probably play as her.  Otherwise, Adon looks interesting. "
    I hear she's most like Viper.
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    #112  Edited By citizenjp

    I'll always main as Fei Long but I'm gonna pick up Makato for sure! She's badass.

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    #113  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs. "
    Yeah man, the way Ultra II is looking everyone will just use that. Jab -> Hands -> FADC -> Ultra. THINK ABOUT IT. "
    Kinda like how Balrog will do EX upper -> Ultra
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    #114  Edited By wfolse1

    I suppose you could say I main Abel, but a lion's share of my recent playing has been with Balrog.  That said, i'm definitely excited to try Dudley, Guy, and Makoto out.  I really liked Makoto in 3S and I think she has a lot in common with Abel in that they are both characters that can dominate a match if a player guesses right once or twice.

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    #115  Edited By lordofultima
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs. "
    Yeah man, the way Ultra II is looking everyone will just use that. Jab -> Hands -> FADC -> Ultra. THINK ABOUT IT. "
    Kinda like how Balrog will do EX upper -> Ultra "
    Or Turn Punch Ultra.
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    #116  Edited By AniMoney
    @lordofultima said:
    " @Jeffsekai said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs. "
    Yeah man, the way Ultra II is looking everyone will just use that. Jab -> Hands -> FADC -> Ultra. THINK ABOUT IT. "
    Kinda like how Balrog will do EX upper -> Ultra "
    Or Turn Punch Ultra. "
    Or jump in roundhouse, c.lp, c.lp, jump in again, c.lp, c.lp, empty jump ultra. 
     
    If I can learn to do a 720 standing, like between jabs or something that'd be GREAT. Oh man I'm excited.
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    #117  Edited By lordofultima
    @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @Jeffsekai said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    " @AniMoney: I agree, EX headbutt should have invincibility properties, but then again not even necessary since he's solid as a rock already.  "
    Yeah maybe if they just made his ultra 1 a little faster or something so it's more useful to deal with fireballs. "
    Yeah man, the way Ultra II is looking everyone will just use that. Jab -> Hands -> FADC -> Ultra. THINK ABOUT IT. "
    Kinda like how Balrog will do EX upper -> Ultra "
    Or Turn Punch Ultra. "
    Or jump in roundhouse, c.lp, c.lp, jump in again, c.lp, c.lp, empty jump ultra.  If I can learn to do a 720 standing, like between jabs or something that'd be GREAT. Oh man I'm excited. "
    Yeah I was about to say, I can already do standing 720's with gief, buffering it into a low short or something. Shouldn't be too much different with Balrog.
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    #118  Edited By gungrave45

    AKUMA

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    #119  Edited By Necrotrophic

     Im sticking with Chun. but im going to take up more alts
     
    I want to get my Ryu back to where it used to be, i straight up cant play him anymore, and I want to make him better
    I want to try Ibuki cuz I like her from 3s
    Juri seems cool, her dash is really fast, which I like.
    I  wanna try out C. Viper more
    I recently saw a video of a really good Fei Long, I want to get good with him.
     
     
     
    I heard the game overall is faster, which I welcome. i think its too slow right now.

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    #120  Edited By napalm

    I'm going to main a mean Sagat and fuck everybody up. Just you watch!

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    #121  Edited By SpecialBuddy

    Switching to Hakan. His daughters are just so damn pretty. (in a not creepy way)

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    #122  Edited By lordofultima
    @SpecialBuddy said:
    " Switching to Hakan. His daughters are just so damn pretty. (in a not creepy way) "
    Pedo Ban.
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    #123  Edited By napalm

    Alright, fuck it. I'm calling it. My new main is Adon or Sakura. Probably Adon, though. Adon and Guile will be my mains. We will rule the world!

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    #124  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Napalm said:
    " Alright, fuck it. I'm calling it. My new main is Adon or Sakura. Probably Adon, though. Adon and Guile will be my mains. We will rule the world! "
    Adon has horrible matchups don't play him we don't wanna hear you bitch all the time.
     
    I'm looking forward to playing Ikubi Adon and Chun Li
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    #125  Edited By AniMoney
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " Alright, fuck it. I'm calling it. My new main is Adon or Sakura. Probably Adon, though. Adon and Guile will be my mains. We will rule the world! "
    Adon has horrible matchups don't play him we don't wanna hear you bitch all the time.  I'm looking forward to playing Ikubi Adon and Chun Li "
    yeah Adon doesn't look great, looks like he has a lot of unsafe stuff, but atleast he can fadc ultra.
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    #126  Edited By napalm
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " Alright, fuck it. I'm calling it. My new main is Adon or Sakura. Probably Adon, though. Adon and Guile will be my mains. We will rule the world! "
    Adon has horrible matchups don't play him we don't wanna hear you bitch all the time.  I'm looking forward to playing Ikubi Adon and Chun Li "
    You should know by now that I am all about playing as the underdog.
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    #127  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Napalm: :(
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    #128  Edited By jaycee13
    @Napalm: underdogs are the most fun to play as. Tier wise, I never play anyone higher than Ken.
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    #129  Edited By Sooty

    Gonna main Cody for the first few weeks at the fight clubs hosted around my area, will be good to be a bit different as he seems like he will be an underused character but is apparently actually very, very good.

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    #130  Edited By lordofultima

    The way I look at it though, if you're playing an "underdog" specifically for that purpose, you shouldn't be able to complain about your characters being ass. Just sayin'. 
     
    New Character Stamina/Stun rankings are in, check 'em out: 
      

    NameStaminaStun
     Adon 9501000 
     Cody 10001050 
     Dee Jay 10001000 
     Dudley 10501050 
     Guy 9501000 
     Hakan 10501100 
     Ibuki 900950 
     Juri 950950 
     Makoto 9501050 
     T. Hawk 11501100 
     
    And also, bullet points! Yay: 
      
    • Dudley is a beast, has the most damaging non-EX Dragon Punch (Jet Uppercut), although Ken's EX-Shoryuken still takes off more life.
    • Juri is another beast, especially Feng Shui Engine Ultra (custom combo), 40% of lifebar ensured to go down if she catches you.
    • Makoto not looking fantastic but has crazy comeback potential. Seems like a mid-tier fighter right now.
    • The game has no Survival or Time Attack modes (at least in their version) it's more focused on online gaming.
    • New tittles are earned by playing online and arcade modes. Colors are gray, gold, (just like the old) blue for completing arcade on normal without continues, red for completing arcade on hardest.
    • 24 challenges (Trials) per character, some are repeats, most are new, you can do bonus stages in challenge mode.
    • Chun-Li's new Ultra (Super Fireball) is really easy to land.
    • They claim Dee Jay is useless so far, but has nice damage. (FU Capcom)
    • Some intros (epilogues, cutscenes) are just static images with the voice of the character speaking.
    • Timing for comboing Ultras seems more strict.
    • Cody can Cancel one of his juggling kicks into Ultra.
    • Ryu's Shoryuken into Ultra 1 combo does 400 damage, it took off 478 in Street Fighter 4.
    • Sagat infamous Tiger Uppercut, Focus Attack Dash Cancel, Toward + Hard Kick, juggle with + Ultra 1 does 455 damage now. It took off 622 damage in the previous game.
    • Sagat's new Ultra 2, Tiger Cannon, does 366 damage.
    • Chun-Li's EX-Lighting Leg Kicks juggle with Ultra does 400 damage.
    • They don't think the game is coming to arcades.
    • Ryu's Shoryuken, Focus Attack Dash Cancel into Ultra 2 will hit, but not for the full animation and for less damage than his Metsu Hadoken (Ultra Fireball) would take off.
    • Hakan's slide attack (the 2 hit version, where there's a follow up body splash) does about 200 damage, and 220 if oiled up.
    • Hakan can jump and hit an airborne opponent with Medium Punch, land and do an Ultra 2, and his enemy will land on him. (reset to ultra omg)
    • Shortcuts for the inputs are still there. (Yay for easy anti-air uppercuts)   
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    #131  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @lordofultima: hmmmmmm
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    #132  Edited By Scooper
    @lordofultima said:
    They claim Dee Jay is useless so far, but has nice damage. (FU Capcom) "
     
     
    FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
     
    I've been hearing he doesn't really have an anti-air normal so relying on his upkicks will kinda suck. He should be great at keeping someone in the corner though with max out's and his slide which knocks down. It's a shame they took out the crumple after EX-Kicks because that could been great. I'm still gonna play as him, though. He's far too cool not to.
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    #133  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Scooper said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    They claim Dee Jay is useless so far, but has nice damage. (FU Capcom) "
      FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-  I've been hearing he doesn't really have an anti-air normal so relying on his upkicks will kinda suck. He should be great at keeping someone in the corner though with max out's and his slide which knocks down. It's a shame they took out the crumple after EX-Kicks because that could been great. I'm still gonna play as him, though. He's far too cool not to. "
    So hes like Blanka...HA SUCK IT
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    #134  Edited By Scooper
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @lordofultima said:
    They claim Dee Jay is useless so far, but has nice damage. (FU Capcom) "
      FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-  I've been hearing he doesn't really have an anti-air normal so relying on his upkicks will kinda suck. He should be great at keeping someone in the corner though with max out's and his slide which knocks down. It's a shame they took out the crumple after EX-Kicks because that could been great. I'm still gonna play as him, though. He's far too cool not to. "
    So hes like Blanka...HA SUCK IT "

    Haven't you got a wakeup ultra to do or something, get the hell out of here!
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    #135  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Scooper: Don't you have to do get  hit by my wakeup ultra?
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    #136  Edited By FluxWaveZ

    WTF @ Dudely.  I guess he really is going to be the new Ken.  Great.

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    #137  Edited By napalm
    @lordofultima: Shut up Mr. I have a counter or a punish option for every single option for every character, EVER.
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    #138  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @Napalm said:
    " @lordofultima: Shut up Mr. I have a counter or a punish option for every single option for every character, EVER. "
    oh my god, so does guile.
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    #139  Edited By Scooper
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Scooper: Don't you have to do get  hit by my wakeup ultra? "
    Whatever!
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    #140  Edited By Ulquiorra

    Juri or Guy could be fun but I definitely will not be fighting as Hakan that guy is just gross with his oil fetish.

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    #141  Edited By CL60

    Hakan will be my new main.

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    #142  Edited By napalm
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " @lordofultima: Shut up Mr. I have a counter or a punish option for every single option for every character, EVER. "
    oh my god, so does guile. "
    You obviously don't play as Guile, so I'm not going to bring this up again. So, I will just tell you to shut your pie hole.
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    #143  Edited By Scooper
    @Napalm said:
    " @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " @lordofultima:Shut up Mr. I have a counter or a punish option for every single option for every character, EVER. "
    oh my god, so does guile. "
    You obviously don't play as Guile, so I'm not going to bring this up again. So, I will just tell you to shut your pie hole. "
    I guess that's why Akuma has 850 health and stun, Seth has even more tools to zone and punish and that's why he has 750 health and stun. Guile's got some of the best zoning capabilities in the game so stop bringing up how this character's better then Guile at this or that character's got a better anti-air. It's annoying. Just use whatever you got and make the most of it. The way you complain about how shitty Guile all the time is silly, just play someone else for Christ's sake if he's that crippled to you.
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    #144  Edited By TheFreeMan

    I'll try playing as Ibuki, like I did in 3S. I hope that she's a bit more balanced because in 3S she got absolutely pulverized with her health compared to other characters IIRC. I always really liked her playstyle but I wasn't too good. I'll definitely practice more for Super.

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    #145  Edited By AniMoney
    @Scooper said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " @Jeffsekai said:
    " @Napalm said:
    " @lordofultima:Shut up Mr. I have a counter or a punish option for every single option for every character, EVER. "
    oh my god, so does guile. "
    You obviously don't play as Guile, so I'm not going to bring this up again. So, I will just tell you to shut your pie hole. "
    I guess that's why Akuma has 850 health and stun, Seth has even more tools to zone and punish and that's why he has 750 health and stun. Guile's got some of the best zoning capabilities in the game so stop bringing up how this character's better then Guile at this or that character's got a better anti-air. It's annoying. Just use whatever you got and make the most of it. The way you complain about how shitty Guile all the time is silly, just play someone else for Christ's sake if he's that crippled to you. "
    Yeah I agree all the Guile complaining is getting annoying.
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    #146  Edited By napalm
    @AniMoney:@Scooper:  Oh, I've settled with how Guile plays. I have no problem with it. But as I've mentioned before, Jeff doesn't play Guile, and he's probably only fought a handful of Guiles (most of which probably sucked), but I will say, it's a little unfair to say Guile has the same punish opportunities as Akuma. Akuma is the most well-rounded character in the game who has options for every single situation. Actually, that's more like laughably retarded.
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    #147  Edited By Jeffsekai

    I've played/w atched enough Guile to know he isn't half as bad as you say. Your the problem here not Guile. Up your play then come complain.

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    #148  Edited By Yukoei

    Nope, I will stay with Rufus <3

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    #149  Edited By Jeffsekai

    After getting tooled by a bunch of run away horribads last night I wanna at lest alt who has a fireball. idk who.

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    #150  Edited By SpecialBuddy
    @Jeffsekai said:
    " After getting tooled by a bunch of run away horribads last night I wanna at lest alt who has a fireball. idk who. "
    Dont go doing that. Fireballs are for pussies! RUSH THAT SHIT DOWN!!!

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