I have never played a Street Fighter game before, and I've been looking forward to getting into it with Super Street Fighter IV. However, as a poor college student, I don't expect to be able to afford a decent fightstick for some time. Should I even bother picking up the game before getting a stick, or is the 360 controller adequate for a beginner? Thanks for any and all advice!
EDIT: General discussion glitch strikes again... Obv supposed to be in the Super Street Fighter IV forum.
Super Street Fighter IV
Game » consists of 28 releases. Released Feb 26, 2010
- Nintendo 3DS
- Xbox 360
- PlayStation 3
- PC
- + 4 more
- Arcade
- Xbox 360 Games Store
- PlayStation Network (PS3)
- Nintendo 3DS eShop
Super Street Fighter IV is a standalone update to its predecessor, adding new characters, modes, and online features.
Worth playing with a controller?
Moved to the Super Street Fighter IV forum.
The 360 controller really, really stinks.
The PS3 one I find adequate enough, but it still feels awkward for me.
I played SF4 with the fightpads that madcatz had out. Costs considerably less than a fightstick but leagues better than the standard 360 pad, great for MAME too.
" The 360 controller really, really stinks. The PS3 one I find adequate enough, but it still feels awkward for me. "I disagree and find the 360's analog stick works fine. Different strokes for different folks, though.
Definitely worth picking up even if you only have a controller. And since this is your first Street Fighter, I don't imagine you'll be getting into any high level tournament level play anytime soon, so you'll be fine. If you get hooked on the game and want to invest more time/money into it, you can always pick up an arcade stick down the road.
Come to a conclusion quickly honestly, if you really get into the game, you do not want to transfer from pad to stick. It fucking sucks. Your skills do not transfer over like you thought they would...it takes hours upon hours to get back to where you were with pad. Worth the patience though.
Definitely. Don't listen to the people who complain that the 360's D-pad isn't good enough; those people are idiots for using the D-pad in the first place. The analogue stick works better than any D-pad could ever hope to. And don't worry about not having enough money for a fightstick. Unless you plan on becoming a high level Street Fighter player you're not going to need one, and since you don't have any experience with fight sticks (or so I assume, since you've never played a Street Fighter game before), you're going to be more comfortable with the 360 controller anyway.
Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller.
" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "don't use the pad on the 360 controller, learn to use the analog stick and if you eventually get a arcade stick the transfer should be a little easier.
trust me you can pwn with a normal controller at first I was terrible but then I started whooping A@@ but then I mostly used c.viper and ken those two are easy to use without a stick.
" @animateria said:This a million times. You can do all you want on a controller, I was doing Akuma's roundhouse loops 60% of the time against a friend the other day and that's on a 360 wireless pad and that's like a bunch of 1 frame links (not that that's supposed to make any sense to you, it won't, don't worry). I don't reccomend using the Dpad on the 360 controller because it's very bad and not acurate at all. The thumbstick is great though and I really like using it. I feel the real arcade stick is really good and I really like using it when I play SFII but for SFIV and Super I can't use anything but the 360 controller." The 360 controller really, really stinks. The PS3 one I find adequate enough, but it still feels awkward for me. "I disagree and find the 360's analog stick works fine. Different strokes for different folks, though. Definitely worth picking up even if you only have a controller. And since this is your first Street Fighter, I don't imagine you'll be getting into any high level tournament level play anytime soon, so you'll be fine. If you get hooked on the game and want to invest more time/money into it, you can always pick up an arcade stick down the road. "
It all comes down to preference and if you get SSFIV and think "oh jesus I love this game" and spend 200 hours playing it in the first month then you might want to buy a stick and get way into it. Don't buy 1 with the game if you've never really played a fighting game because you might get bored after a few days and then you've got this big stick you never use sitting around.
You might find this somewhat encouraging:" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "
http://www.giantbomb.com/super-street-fighter-iv/61-28437/which-control-method-do-you-use/35-408119/#34
According to this poll that I posted, nearly 43% of GiantBomb players use standard controllers.
Other than using the analogue stick over the d-pad, my main suggestion would be to try to find some players of equal skill level. You won't find them in basic matchmaking, so it would probably be best to get a friend to play with you, or look around the forum for someone else who is new to the entire series. Aside from that, just try not to get discouraged, and do your best to learn from your mistakes. If you have trouble with another player's move that always hits you, go into practice mode and see how you can counter it. When someone beats you, try to understand why and slowly adopt some of their techniques. I'm guessing that the fight replay feature will help a lot with this.
theres nothing wrong with using a pad. try using the analogue stick
and, dpads are typically better than analogue sticks but with the 360, its just not the case
Personally still play on the pad, and do fairly well. Didn't make it out of G2 in championship mode (though I doubt that makes much sense to an outsider), but still consider myself an intermediate player.
Playing on the controller/pad shouldn't prevent you from having fun with a great game. :)
I've never played an SF game on a fightstick or even the arcades. I've always played the Street Fighter games on a pad since Street Fighter II on the Super Nintendo. And it's fine to play the game with a controller and you'll still have tons of fun and you'll still do great. A lot say it's a lot easier on a fightstick, but as mentioned, it's really a preference. It's the player and not the type of gear that wins you matches. :)
I also play using the d-pad, using the analog stick on the PS3 feels awkward for me when playing fighting games hehe!
" @Pox22 said:Playing people equaly skilled is not as beneficial as getting your ass trounced in my opinion. People at your own level may have extremely bad habits....your play style will begin to incorporate equally shitty habits because of what you are being exposed to. Dunno if that makes any sense to you.You might find this somewhat encouraging:" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "
http://www.giantbomb.com/super-street-fighter-iv/61-28437/which-control-method-do-you-use/35-408119/#34
According to this poll that I posted, nearly 43% of GiantBomb players use standard controllers.
Other than using the analogue stick over the d-pad, my main suggestion would be to try to find some players of equal skill level. You won't find them in basic matchmaking, so it would probably be best to get a friend to play with you, or look around the forum for someone else who is new to the entire series. Aside from that, just try not to get discouraged, and do your best to learn from your mistakes. If you have trouble with another player's move that always hits you, go into practice mode and see how you can counter it. When someone beats you, try to understand why and slowly adopt some of their techniques. I'm guessing that the fight replay feature will help a lot with this.
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I will happily trounce any of you though :)
IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
lol@Stang said:
" @SpaceInsomniac said:don't make me beat you with your own character jk" @Pox22 said:Playing people equaly skilled is not as beneficial as getting your ass trounced in my opinion. People at your own level may have extremely bad habits....your play style will begin to incorporate equally shitty habits because of what you are being exposed to. Dunno if that makes any sense to you. I will happily trounce any of you though :) IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. "You might find this somewhat encouraging:" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "
http://www.giantbomb.com/super-street-fighter-iv/61-28437/which-control-method-do-you-use/35-408119/#34
According to this poll that I posted, nearly 43% of GiantBomb players use standard controllers.
Other than using the analogue stick over the d-pad, my main suggestion would be to try to find some players of equal skill level. You won't find them in basic matchmaking, so it would probably be best to get a friend to play with you, or look around the forum for someone else who is new to the entire series. Aside from that, just try not to get discouraged, and do your best to learn from your mistakes. If you have trouble with another player's move that always hits you, go into practice mode and see how you can counter it. When someone beats you, try to understand why and slowly adopt some of their techniques. I'm guessing that the fight replay feature will help a lot with this.
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I see what you're getting at, but we're talking about someone who hasn't even played a fighting game before. If you're just learning how to use fireball and charge attack motions, you don't go fighting players who can FADC into ultra. First he needs to have some fun with friends and stay off ranked game modes. Once he knows some basics, then he can learn how to improve." @SpaceInsomniac said:
Playing people equaly skilled is not as beneficial as getting your ass trounced in my opinion. People at your own level may have extremely bad habits....your play style will begin to incorporate equally shitty habits because of what you are being exposed to. Dunno if that makes any sense to you. I will happily trounce any of you though :) IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. "" @Pox22 said:
" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "
Other than using the analogue stick over the d-pad, my main suggestion would be to try to find some players of equal skill level. You won't find them in basic matchmaking, so it would probably be best to get a friend to play with you, or look around the forum for someone else who is new to the entire series. Aside from that, just try not to get discouraged, and do your best to learn from your mistakes. If you have trouble with another player's move that always hits you, go into practice mode and see how you can counter it. When someone beats you, try to understand why and slowly adopt some of their techniques. I'm guessing that the fight replay feature will help a lot with this.
"
The most important thing isn't to become a great player. The most important thing is to have fun. People don't have to be that good at Street Fighter to enjoy it. Just look at these guys:
" @Stang said:Yeah and even those guys were using sticksI see what you're getting at, but we're talking about someone who hasn't even played a fighting game before. If you're just learning how to use fireball and charge attack motions, you don't go fighting players who can FADC into ultra. First he needs to have some fun with friends and stay off ranked game modes. Once he knows some basics, then he can learn how to improve." @SpaceInsomniac said:
Playing people equaly skilled is not as beneficial as getting your ass trounced in my opinion. People at your own level may have extremely bad habits....your play style will begin to incorporate equally shitty habits because of what you are being exposed to. Dunno if that makes any sense to you. I will happily trounce any of you though :) IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. "" @Pox22 said:
" Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not really looking to get into high-level play right out of the box. I just have the mentality of, "if you're going to something, might as well do it right." I'll pick up the game on Tuesday and see if I like it enough to invest in a stick in the future. Good to know that it's still worth playing with a controller. "
Other than using the analogue stick over the d-pad, my main suggestion would be to try to find some players of equal skill level. You won't find them in basic matchmaking, so it would probably be best to get a friend to play with you, or look around the forum for someone else who is new to the entire series. Aside from that, just try not to get discouraged, and do your best to learn from your mistakes. If you have trouble with another player's move that always hits you, go into practice mode and see how you can counter it. When someone beats you, try to understand why and slowly adopt some of their techniques. I'm guessing that the fight replay feature will help a lot with this.
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The most important thing isn't to become a great player. The most important thing is to have fun. People don't have to be that good at Street Fighter to enjoy it. Just look at these guys:
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SFIV was the first game I ever used the stick with and I have to say I love it but I do have a friend who can only use a pad. He detest the stick so to each his own.
SSFIV Fightpads
SSFIV Fightstick
As you can see, the original Madcatz Fightsticks have come down to around $50 so it isn't to expensive of an experiment to find out if your better with a pad or a stick. Those Fightpads are pretty nice. Moving the buttons off of the shoulder is what makes them better than a standard controller.
As you can see, the original Madcatz Fightsticks have come down to around $50 so it isn't to expensive of an experiment to find out if your better with a pad or a stick. Those Fightpads are pretty nice. Moving the buttons off of the shoulder is what makes them better than a standard controller. "
Agreed. As much as I love my fightpad, it's a bitch and a half to hit left shoulder buttons when trying to combo or use an ultra. The fightpad has six face buttons, and two shoulder buttons, but I still can have problems. It's bad enough having to choose if you want to have the shoulder buttons be all three P/K buttons, light attacks, or heavy attacks. I'd really hate having to pick two sets of buttons to have on the shoulders. It's the main reason I think that even PS3 pad players should eventually upgrade to a fightpad.
" Are the trials still impossible with a regular controller? I need to know this "A couple of them are probably next to impossible with a regular controller, like the Gen trial from SF4 was bananas but there are people who have done all trials in SF4 with a regular controller so it's not impossible. I remember I used the stick for Honda's trials but that's about it. I done 70% of the others with a regular controller with no more problem then with a stick. I don't know about the trials in SSFIV but there's probably still a few you'd have an easier time doing if you were using a stick.
" Are the trials still impossible with a regular controller? I need to know this "I trudged my way through all the trials with a regular controller using the analog stick. There were quite a few times where I had to reassign some buttons to make it easier though. It was almost like a puzzle game. Luckily I played viper at the time so I already could do the FFF c.viper trial. The Gen one was just haunting me for about a week though.
Controllers are generally considered less accurate than a proper stick but I don't have to many problems with it. I will admit though I am not what you would call an expert when it comes to fighting games, but still, a controller is always fine in my experience. I guess it's just a preference thing. That's and how hardcore you are, I suppose.
Its definitely doable. Heck, I'm the opposite of most people where when Street Fighter was for the SNES I couldn't even pull of a shoryuken right but once I used a regular control stick on a controller I did fine. It's all about what works for you. I'm completely lost when it comes to using a fight pad.
I am gonna get a fight pad for my PS3 when I get the game tonight. Any one like the fight pad?
Can someone who uses a fight stick please message me?
" @The_Laughing_Man said:I found a great deal on a official fight stick at gamestop. Might get that instead."I am gonna get a fight pad for my PS3 when I get the game tonight. Any one like the fight pad?"I used a fight pad on PS3 and found I played better with it than the standard controller. Not much difference though really. "
" @mubress said:Whatever works for you. I wish I'd started playing with a stick when I first got into SF but now I'm so used to pads that I can't be bothered :)" @The_Laughing_Man said:I found a great deal on a official fight stick at gamestop. Might get that instead. ""I am gonna get a fight pad for my PS3 when I get the game tonight. Any one like the fight pad?"I used a fight pad on PS3 and found I played better with it than the standard controller. Not much difference though really. "
It completely depends on how well you use a pad. Some of us that played 2d fighters on Saturn and Neo Geo got very good at using the thumb to hit multiple buttons and the like. Frankly I am so used to a 6 button pad for fighting games that using an arcade stick just feels wrong. However, if you are not great at a pad for fighting games to begin with you may want to start on the stick. Its all down to preference, honestly you can play at the same skill level with either option.
When I was using the 360 controller I actually mixed my use of the Analog stick and D-Pad too depending on the move and which side I was facing." The problem is that I use both the D-Pad and analogue sticks in a fight. "
As for the original poster, It's perfectly fine to use. Use the Stick mostly. You could look into a FightPad at sometime too.
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