While I realize that the topic title is a bit overdramatic, I was curious to hear you guys opinion on Yun's alleged overpoweredness.

He's a lot better than Vanilla Sagat IMO, but I don't think that's bad personally.

I just feel bad that I planned on using Yun when it came out since he looks like a character I'd use. Kind of sucks when all you'd get after wins are messages like ''omg yun iz so cheep u suk''.  There's also the chance that I'll just stick with Rose and make do with the soul satellite nerf.  

If Event Hubs put up a story about a cat that could play the harmonica people would still be whining about Yun in the comments. Its getting pretty tedious now.  Pre-occupation with tier-lists in general annoys me. 

Personally i am tired of SF4 and this new edition bores me to death.

I wouldn't go so far as saying Yun killed AE, but rather the balancing tweaks that favor rushdown killed SF4.

Keep in mind that no one has access to training mode for AE. Once the game comes to consoles our understanding of the character can increase dramatically. Counter picks will be found.

AE is already dead to me though; I put the money I was going to spend on the download towards a copy of Guilty Gear XX Accent Core.

Yun has pretty much been confirmed as easy mode. The death? Not necessarily, but a lot of defense/charge characters will have a hard time with him constantly bouncing around the screen. It doesn't appear to be easy to zone him out or corner him. He seems like the worst traits of Rufus and Ibuki.

I honestly couldn't give a fuck. SSF4 is so stale that absolutely any change/addition is wholly welcome. The re-balance and new characters are fine imo. Sagat was never that  much of a problem in vanilla, and it just forces you to learn the match-up.

I love SSF4, so if they're going to rejuvenate it, it's all good in my book (plus Yun/Yang and Oni all look pretty sick).

people keep saying things like "evo will be all yun vs yun". Yun has bad match ups, and it's not always great idea go for a mirror, people seem to forget that.

my take on it:
Vanilla Sagat had ridiculous damage output and could get bull-shit "lucky" wins + had ALOT of health.

Yun has good offensive options, but it's not auto-pilot, you still have to learn how to use him properly, I cant wait for all the scrubs trying to play him online because they think he is easy mode and get owned.
He has good damaging combos and is very very good. BUT, he does not have ALOT of health like Sagat did, which makes him less frightening, because if he makes a couple of mistakes, he can be dead depending on who he is fighting.

SO, I don't think Yun is bad for AE, not any worse than Sagat was in vanilla at least.
I for one like the challenge of learning how to beat a "god tier" character, because it is not impossible like some people make it out to be.
I mean, sure, if you are top-level tournament player, you probably want to at least think about picking Yun up, or at least a character that's a good counter-pick.
but as far as us "normal" online players go, Yun makes no impact on the game as a whole.

I'm still of the opinion that at our level of play T-Hawk is about a million times scarier.

I don't mind. The level of play I'm at and the people I would most likely play with Yun ain't gonna be a problem. 

Chun and Ken were not the death of 3rd Strike. So as I see it as long as the game is fun people will play it and play the characters they want despite those S-Tier guys.

As someone who's favorite game was Third Strike and picked Yun against all the Chuns and Kens at the arcade....it's going to be fine.

He's still not even the strongest. I thought Fei Long was top tier?

Also AE Yun is nothing like Chun-Li or Ken from 3rd Strike and he definitely isn't as powerful as Sagat was in SF4 vanilla.

There are some people who are mad salty about Yun being to good and I can see why.  I'm still going to be playing the game since I can't play in any tournaments locally.  Wish there was a scene here though.   :(

I really hope there is at least one more balance update before Capcom is done with SF4, but Capcom has stated that they are done with SF4 now so I shouldn't keep my hopes up.

people keep saying things like "evo will be all yun vs yun". Yun has bad match ups, and it's not always great idea go for a mirror, people seem to forget that.

There are some people who are mad salty about Yun being to good and I can see why.  I'm still going to be playing the game since I can't play in any tournaments locally.  Wish there was a scene here though.   :(I really hope there is at least one more balance update before Capcom is done with SF4, but Capcom has stated that they are done with SF4 now so I shouldn't keep my hopes up.

@JJOR64 said:

There are some people who are mad salty about Yun being to good and I can see why.  I'm still going to be playing the game since I can't play in any tournaments locally.  Wish there was a scene here though.   :(I really hope there is at least one more balance update before Capcom is done with SF4, but Capcom has stated that they are done with SF4 now so I shouldn't keep my hopes up.

yah, Capcom wants to keep both versions the same( arcade and home), a patch would ruin that parity. 

After getting MK, I'm bowing out of SF IV, it was fun for a while.

I think Marvel 3 and MK was the death of AE, but that's just me. AE was old news on release.

I think Marvel 3 and MK was the death of AE, but that's just me. AE was old news on release.

Yun's stronger than Vanilla Sagat but over-powered characters aren't that terrible for a game. I actually really enjoy going back and playing original SFIV because it feels more dangerous. More like SF2.

At the level of play I'm at I don't really think it matters how powerful Yun is (then again, Vanilla Sagat was kind of ridiculous regardless of what level of play you were at.) I'm just going to enjoy the game for what it is and hope that not everyone will pick him online or on the tourney streams. I think I'll stick with Vega, despite the total lack of buffs (or nerfs for that matter, other than his Ultra 2 having a little more startup). In any case, powerful characters do not break the game unless they are broken themselves, and at that point they're banned anyways, like Super Turbo Akuma or any SNK boss character you care to name.

@FLStyle said:

I think Marvel 3 and MK was the death of AE, but that's just me. AE was old news on release.

LOL hardly dude. I don't care about AE at all but I can guarantee you that game is gonna get most entrants at EVO.

What would be great....Is if the console AE let you switch between Super and Arcade for charactersSo you could have a Super Honda play an Arcade Makoto.

@ricetopher said:

@FLStyle said:

I think Marvel 3 and MK was the death of AE, but that's just me. AE was old news on release.

LOL hardly dude. I don't care about AE at all but I can guarantee you that game is gonna get most entrants at EVO.

Of course it will, it's Street Fighter, but I suspect Marvel 3 and MK will be spoken about positively and AE won't.

@ricetopher said:

@FLStyle said:

I think Marvel 3 and MK was the death of AE, but that's just me. AE was old news on release.

LOL hardly dude. I don't care about AE at all but I can guarantee you that game is gonna get most entrants at EVO.

Of course it will, it's Street Fighter, but I suspect Marvel 3 and MK will be spoken about positively and AE won't.

I cant wait for all the scrubs trying to play him online because they think he is easy mode

Fei Long is the death.

Fei Long is the death.

What ever happened to learning the matchup and exploiting the characters weaknesses? It seems like everyone besides the Japanese players are complaining about Yun. Most of them think that Fei is the only S-tier character right now and they've been playing the game for months now. With that said, I believe that there's another rebalance in store for this year. Capcom probably just wants everyone to try out Yun/Yang unchanged from the arcade version before thinking about re-balancing.

It's all about the player. 
  
I think rebalancing won't happen anytime soon unless they find a way to update the arcade units Japan without spending thousands on a new hard drive.

Ive been playing alot of AE and hes not that bad he has no wake up. So just knock em down and go nuts.

Ive been playing alot of AE and hes not that bad he has no wake up. So just knock em down and go nuts.

@scarace360 said:

Ive been playing alot of AE and hes not that bad he has no wake up. So just knock em down and go nuts.

I heard his defense is ass while his offense is insane.