PC duders - impressions?

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#1 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

How does the game look/feel on the PC? How configurable is it? Mouse smoothing? Framerate locked to 30?

Jeff's crazy review makes me want to buy it, but no PC review copies nor demos scare me.

#2 Posted by floodiastus (1262 posts) -

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

#3 Posted by wewantsthering (1545 posts) -

It looks great and handles great. I would say the graphics are like Dues Ex: HR, but with better character models. The mouse/keyboard controls are also much better than DE:HR. I have a GTX 460 and I was locked at 60fps. Keep in mind that the single player is very short. I just beat it. I haven't started the coop yet.

#4 Posted by randombattle (79 posts) -

Heads up though the singleplayer is not the focus of syndicate. The coop is absolutely THE focus of the game. It is huge and expansive and amazing.

#5 Posted by monssfisch (45 posts) -

There isn't any mouse smoothing and I've been running at way more than 30 fps.

The downside is it's not very configurable: aliasing, shadows, v-sync and I think that's it. It does look pretty on the PC though.

#6 Posted by wewantsthering (1545 posts) -

@randombattle: That's good to know! I just beat the single-player and really liked it, but it was a little skimpy for $60...

#7 Posted by strangecargo (70 posts) -

I've only played it for about 10 minutes, but I experienced pretty noticeable input lag (using both KB/M or a 360 controller). I only tried it in campaign mode. Somebody mentioned that they only saw the lag in campaign and it went away in multiplayer. Can't say myself, since I haven't tried it yet. Performance seems pretty good. Getting locked 60fps at 2560x1440 on a GTX580.

#8 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

So bought it - anyone find the text in the personal logs to be unreadable - some sort of blurring effect on the text?

#9 Posted by Jackel2072 (2235 posts) -

im locked at 60fps 1920X1080 (560Ti) the game runs pretty smooth. the only problem i am having is with the Co-Op. it's pretty laggy for me, but it also might be my connection. but when i do get into a game, Co-Op is pretty damn awesome. and the single player isn't bad, but like DX-HR the boss fights suck! 

#10 Edited by sate2801 (343 posts) -

for some reason there's no 1280*1024

and I can't toggle to windowed mode unless I edit the config file manually

also can't bind keys on mouse4 and 5

other than that and the crazy bloom bug discussed on other thread it's ok to me

#11 Posted by Swoxx (2988 posts) -

@floodiastus said:

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

Why would you need gamepad support for a First Person Shooter on a PC?

#12 Posted by TruthTellah (8382 posts) -

@mosdl said:

So bought it - anyone find the text in the personal logs to be unreadable - some sort of blurring effect on the text?

You are definitely not the only one having trouble reading a lot of the text in the game. Not a huge problem in the long run, but definitely troublesome on smaller displays.

#13 Posted by floodiastus (1262 posts) -

@Swoxx said:

@floodiastus said:

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

Why would you need gamepad support for a First Person Shooter on a PC?

becase the FOV is too narrow on multiports to sit infront of a monitor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA

#14 Posted by wewantsthering (1545 posts) -

@Swoxx said:

@floodiastus said:

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

Why would you need gamepad support for a First Person Shooter on a PC?

I actually like there to be support because sometimes I want to sit back and play a game. If it's a real serious FPS like Battlefield 3, I definitely use k/m, but there are a lot of FPS games that I prefer to play with a gamepad. What's wrong with supporting it as long as it's not required?

#15 Posted by Jimi (1126 posts) -

FoV is fucked, super fucked.

Which completely sucks because I haven't been able to play this or the darkness 2 yet despite owning them both.

#16 Posted by Tennmuerti (7949 posts) -

Is there a way to adjust the FoV?

#17 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

FOV is fine for me, its playable and enjoyable. Would be nice to increase it, perhaps a patch (Darkness 2 had the same post release fov patch).

There is an environment.cfg file (C:\Users\{User}\Documents\Syndicate), will see if I can figure it out

#18 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

10 minutes into the QL, I would never run this shitty crap on my PC. It was traumatized by Crysis 2, I'm keeping it clean with good games installed. 
We're talking about Crysis 3 here right?

#19 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

10 minutes into the QL, I would never run this shitty crap on my PC. It was traumatized by Crysis 2, I'm keeping it clean with good games installed. We're talking about Crysis 3 here right?

Haters gonna hate

#20 Posted by t0y (20 posts) -

everyone that has framerate lock turn off vsync and it helps the terrible laggy mouse movement.

#21 Posted by seannao (223 posts) -

The only jarring thing to me is that the user interface, all the cues and tooltips have been explained to me primarily in the language of an Xbox controller. That has definitely been interrupting to me throughout the first three chapters, beyond the first boss where I'm still familiarizing myself with the game and haven't yet gotten the third Breach-Program yet. That's my only problem with the game.

As for visuals and such. It's great and isn't nearly as heavy as BF3's requirements actually are. The flow of the game seems slightly too fast at times, but I'm still very early on. I love the aesthetic of the game so far since, well, I just like future themes and even enjoyed BF2142 if only because of its setting and look.

Mouse smoothing and control. I honestly haven't noticed any mouse smoothing and it was the first thing I looked for. Unchecked Aim-assist if that means anything to you. I had to reduce my mouse sensitivity by 50% of the default to make it feel 'right' on my system. The FOV is a bit jarring, but I'd expect someone to find some console controls at some point. It hasn't been bad, I suppose, having played console FPS games to deeaaath in the past and just developing a habit for hitting the DART button (Q???) and looking around for orange jerks.

I like it. Haven't coop'd it up yet.

#22 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@mosdl said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

10 minutes into the QL, I would never run this shitty crap on my PC. It was traumatized by Crysis 2, I'm keeping it clean with good games installed. We're talking about Crysis 3 here right?

Haters gonna hate

You love it!
#23 Posted by seannao (223 posts) -

Hey I want to clear up some confusion: Syndicate auto-detected my gamepad, so gave me controller button tooltips instead. lol

#24 Posted by benspyda (2014 posts) -

@seannao said:

Hey I want to clear up some confusion: Syndicate auto-detected my gamepad, so gave me controller button tooltips instead. lol

So it has gamepad support? That's alright then. Although I still don't think I'll get this for a 6 hour linear fps.

#25 Posted by AlexW00d (6167 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: It looks nothing like Crysis. Deus Ex yeah, but Cryis no.

#26 Posted by Korwin (2813 posts) -

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44321990/Syndicate_2012_02_23_20_15_01_475.jpg

I got FOV for days.

#27 Posted by Tennmuerti (7949 posts) -

@Korwin said:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44321990/Syndicate_2012_02_23_20_15_01_475.jpg

I got FOV for days.

Care to post where it can be adjusted?

Thanks.

#28 Posted by isomeri (1216 posts) -

@benspyda said:

@seannao said:

Hey I want to clear up some confusion: Syndicate auto-detected my gamepad, so gave me controller button tooltips instead. lol

So it has gamepad support? That's alright then. Although I still don't think I'll get this for a 6 hour linear fps.

This one's going on my Steam Holiday Sale shopping list.

#29 Posted by MikeFightNight (1068 posts) -
@Swoxx

@floodiastus said:

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

Why would you need gamepad support for a First Person Shooter on a PC?

Either
1. Because they are crazy and perfer the comfort of a less accurate controller over a M+K

2. Their PC is hooked up to a big screen and they play from a couch.

In my case both apply.
#30 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

@isomeri said:

This one's going on my Steam Holiday Sale shopping list.

Origin sale list!

#31 Posted by isomeri (1216 posts) -

@mosdl said:

@isomeri said:

This one's going on my Steam Holiday Sale shopping list.

Origin sale list!

Damn, that's right. I didn't even realize that this was an EA joint.

#32 Posted by floodiastus (1262 posts) -

@MikeFightNight said:

@Swoxx

@floodiastus said:

Im worried it might be a too narrow fov that is unadjustable and that it lacks gamepad support.

Why would you need gamepad support for a First Person Shooter on a PC?

Either 1. Because they are crazy and perfer the comfort of a less accurate controller over a M+K 2. Their PC is hooked up to a big screen and they play from a couch. In my case both apply.

Yup pretty much, mouse and keyboard is the ONLY choice when playing competetive play and heads on MP. But for singleplayer, comfort is everything! :)

#33 Posted by Korwin (2813 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

@Korwin said:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44321990/Syndicate_2012_02_23_20_15_01_475.jpg

I got FOV for days.

Care to post where it can be adjusted?

Thanks.

Spend all the money on 3 screens and multiple video cards ;)

I had a quick look around in the config file but I couldn't find anything, it would seem the FOV is dynamic based on the aspect ratio.

#34 Posted by Tennmuerti (7949 posts) -

@Korwin said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@Korwin said:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44321990/Syndicate_2012_02_23_20_15_01_475.jpg

I got FOV for days.

Care to post where it can be adjusted?

Thanks.

Spend all the money on 3 screens and multiple video cards ;)

I had a quick look around in the config file but I couldn't find anything, it would seem the FOV is dynamic based on the aspect ratio.

Yeah, i figured as much, it looked like 3 screens. I do have mutiple video cards, but just the one laptop screen :)

#35 Edited by Tennmuerti (7949 posts) -

Is it me or is there a really fucked up blur / rgb seperation in menus?

My eyes hurt just looking at that shit ><

EDIT: oh wow fuck this, I'm getting a headache from these fucking blurry menus, i can see how this style choice is fine for a huge TV several meters away from you, but on the PC screen those things are atrocious!

#36 Edited by sate2801 (343 posts) -

in case you're using one of those SXGA monitors, or just wanna play it in a window

there should be one environment.cfg in C:\Users\[Username]\Documents\Syndicate

open it with notepad and look for these lines, you know what to do

VID_FULLSCREEN

VID_DWIDTH

VID_DHEIGHT

#37 Posted by Flaboere (344 posts) -

So... is it ok to run on the PC? Or would you have to do alot to it, to make it propor? I'm playing on something like 21'' monitor.

#38 Posted by Mnemoidian (955 posts) -

@t0y said:

everyone that has framerate lock turn off vsync and it helps the terrible laggy mouse movement.

Ugh - was sure I'd turned that off, was wondering what was up with the mouse sensitivity - nothing seemed to work!

Thanks for the reminder :)

#39 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

@Flaboere said:

So... is it ok to run on the PC? Or would you have to do alot to it, to make it propor? I'm playing on something like 21'' monitor.

It runs fine on the PC.

#40 Posted by Mnemoidian (955 posts) -

Yeah, runs fine for me. Just make sure to disable VSYNC if you are having issues with laggy mouse movement (like t0y said previously) - only issue I've had.

Well, I've also had one crash (in Co-op)). From 10-15 hours of playing (Campaign + Co-op).

#41 Posted by Tennmuerti (7949 posts) -

Have had a couple crashes on PC, but I have been playing more then most (co-op). Had a boss not spawn once at the end of a co-op level. Once I respawned without any of my weapons. The menu blur is still bugging me, as is the FoV.

But my biggest complaint is how the online co-op social stuff works. In this day and age we have dozens of games that have very good design for this stuff. So to have a half assed online features in a game that so heavily relies on that for playtime is baffling. You can't simply invite dudes into your Syndicate(clan/guild/whatever) they either need to be in the lobby or in the friends list. You can't friend a dude in the lobby if you are in a clan, only invite to a clan, so if you meet someone cool in game that you want to add to friends then you need to remember their exact name. Too many hoops. No extra loadout slots beyond the first three is a pain. No "ready" flags to see if players are done with their between game management shit, or need to take a leak between levels. No support for simply typing shit out in chat. No way to switch class/loadout in the mission if your team wipes and this is important as a simple thing as a different setup can make a huge difference in a certain area.

#42 Posted by ajamafalous (11793 posts) -
@Tennmuerti said:

But my biggest complaint is how the online co-op social stuff works. In this day and age we have dozens of games that have very good design for this stuff. So to have a half assed online features in a game that so heavily relies on that for playtime is baffling. You can't simply invite dudes into your Syndicate(clan/guild/whatever) they either need to be in the lobby or in the friends list. You can't friend a dude in the lobby if you are in a clan, only invite to a clan, so if you meet someone cool in game that you want to add to friends then you need to remember their exact name. Too many hoops. No extra loadout slots beyond the first three is a pain. No "ready" flags to see if players are done with their between game management shit, or need to take a leak between levels. No support for simply typing shit out in chat. No way to switch class/loadout in the mission if your team wipes and this is important as a simple thing as a different setup can make a huge difference in a certain area.

Well that sounds like a giant fucking bummer. Above all, these simple game design-type things are what really make me dislike games.
#43 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

The bloom is just a tad* extreme.

*utterly fucking ridiculous

#44 Edited by SaturdayNightSpecials (2305 posts) -

This FOV thing is getting to be the number 1 reason PC shooter ports are fucked.

How hard is it to just put it in the fucking menu like Deus Ex HR did? Same for mouse acceleration.

#45 Posted by bio595 (307 posts) -

The game wont even fucking start for me. EA support is useless too.

Mind you, the reason it wont start is maybe related to my unusual setup but still sums me the fuck out

#46 Posted by JoeyRavn (4945 posts) -

I didn't have any problems with the game. The FOV is pretty stupid and the bloom is almost unbearable at times, but apart from that, solid 60 FPS with everything maxed at 1920x1080. I'm playing with a gamepad because, as Jeff said, I find it easier to press all those buttons at once (firing, moving, breaching, etc.). And if you don't like that someone is playing a PC shooter with a gamepad, fuck you.

But I won't keep playing the game. The plot, man... this bullshit again? Why do I hate to help this certain character, when he/she is as guilty of everything's that happening as the bad guys? That character is a douche, no matter how saintly the game tries to portray him/her.

#47 Posted by Wuddel (2077 posts) -

All my co-op games are laggy as hell.

#48 Posted by Christoffer (1742 posts) -

I'm having a lot of fun with the game. As a PC game it's very limited in terms of settings but I, personally, don't need to tweak every game. The single player moves along naturally so I'm having a hard time putting it down. And some areas are just awesome to play through.

I'm playing on Hard difficulty and I find some moments to be unfair (as in enemy bullet sponges, trial and error situations, sometimes hard noticing when you're taking damage, sometimes hard to notice if you're dealing damage). But overall it's a fun game. I haven't tried co-op yet.

#49 Posted by san_salvador (144 posts) -

I actually wanted to play this one, but a narrow, fixed FoV kills it for me. :(

#50 Posted by carlos707 (28 posts) -

I havent even noticed these FOV issues, but the inability to map the thumb buttons of the mouse (mouse 4&5) is a real bummer. If I could breach with the thumb buttons, then it would be a lot better (I could move while breaching).

The 360 controller is an okay fix, if you can play a fps on it. Though, in coop, I tend to be the worst on my team because of the controller. On the other hand, my team mates dont move while breaching.

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