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    Team Fortress 2

    Game » consists of 12 releases. Released Oct 10, 2007

    The long-awaited sequel to the class-based first-person shooter Team Fortress Classic sports a unique cartoony visual style, more accessible gameplay, and a very large amount of updates and new features since its original release.

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    #1  Edited By Feanor

    Well you can now get items with achievements again, but you can also find them the old way as well. 

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    #2  Edited By Hamz

    Just read this on Shacknews (link for those interested) and I'm still a little baffled as to why they didn't choose this method to begin with instead of making the abrupt switch from achievement milestones to random loot and then reverting it to a balance between both systems.

    As Shacknews reports the actual number of achievements required for the Sniper & Spy milestones is pretty low compared to what it was for the other classes. Can't help but feel this may have been intentional to sooth the pain of angry players.

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    #3  Edited By Radar

    Good. Should have been both systems in place in the first place. 

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    #4  Edited By Log

    I dont agree with this at all, its annoying to see them do this. The new system basically stopped people from being achievement whoring assholes. Granted it wasnt perfect and they should have implemented some kind of diminished chance to get items you already had, but theyre basically rewarding people for being cheaters this way.

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    #5  Edited By Fei

    WHAT YOU SAY ??

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    #6  Edited By thordain

    Finally, at least Valve isn't trying to drive everyone off.

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    #7  Edited By PureRok
    @Log: Achievement whores don't affect you at all. Why let them bother you? If they want to grind for the weapons (that should be available from the get-go to begin with) that's their prerogative and it doesn't affect you in any way. Also, achievement grinding is cheating. If it were, most people on XBL would probably be in big trouble for grinding out achievements.
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    #8  Edited By Feanor

    I really do not understand the point of having both systems going at the same time.  So many people will be getting items so quickly, that you might as well give them out to everyone right away at the launch of an update.

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    #9  Edited By jakob187
    @PureRok: The achievements on XBL don't unlock anything for us other than a larger e-peen.  When entire servers are dedicated to the sole purpose of achievement whoring for your weapons, it basically turns into the same problem that you get with Battlefield 2:  servers set up just to grind points quickly in order to have better weapons than everyone else, thereby making the game uneven in normal servers.

    It's whatever, though, because nothing is going to stop it.  Games will always end up being uneven, and it's solely because some people have more time on their hands than others.

    It's one of the main reasons I stopped playing so many games online and never could get into Team Fortress 2.
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    #10  Edited By Ineedaname

    I was playing and some guy logged in, and it just said achieved a tonne of milestones, and "***** has found *****" about 7 times. Was pretty epic.

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    #11  Edited By 10MP

    I think valve needs to stop trying to adding these gimmicks for unlocking items and just give them with the updates.

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    #12  Edited By SolarboyGil

    don't know why they removed it.....

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    #13  Edited By mracoon

    They should have done both from the start.

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    #14  Edited By IncredibleBulk92

    I think it's more like they were testing the new system and seeing just how long it might take to unlock new items.


    I really like that both systems are in place, it means that I'm rewarded for playing certain classes but if I can't do enough achievements to get the level 3 Medic weapon I'll eventually get the level 3 unlock.

    Also Engineer hat is awesome

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