What TF2 class do you think takes the most skill?

#1 Posted by ZombieJesus (231 posts) -

I think the spy class takes the most skill.
What do you guys think?

#2 Posted by DanCarmichael (220 posts) -

I think this thread is asking for trouble.

#3 Posted by RetroIce4 (4392 posts) -

Medic... 0_o

#4 Posted by xruntime (1920 posts) -

All classes require skill to be dominant. Except pyro.


P.S. Just kidding.

#5 Posted by myzticaznfool (58 posts) -

spy / demo

#6 Posted by dwarfzilla (170 posts) -

Heavy/scout
Heavy needs to know when enough is enough, and scout needs to know when it is appropriate to run away versus pursuing a target.

#7 Posted by Kenzo287 (722 posts) -

Pyro. Do you realize how hard it is to kill everyone when they don't stand still?

#8 Posted by Vafthrutnir (120 posts) -

Demo probably, if you don't just sit around waiting for people to walk near your stickies all the time.

#9 Posted by Major (506 posts) -

The class I have the hardest time playing is demo. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that takes the most skill.

#10 Posted by Vanquish (25 posts) -

demo and spy

#11 Posted by Vanquish (25 posts) -

demo and spy

#12 Posted by Thordain (959 posts) -

Spy

#13 Posted by McDazzle (544 posts) -

Spy

#14 Posted by Cfreyrun (8 posts) -

Seriously the Demo and Spy hits it on the head, they have to plan out their attacks in order to be effective.

#15 Posted by Demilich (2598 posts) -

Keyword requires.

Spy is the only class that you can't luck out with all the time I'd say. Scout requires a fair bit of accuracy and speed as well. Demoman is second nature after a while however, though he might require a little skill at first.

#16 Posted by Rowr (5824 posts) -

The spy followed by the medic.

anyone can play them, but not many play them well.

#17 Posted by GamesWarden (59 posts) -
Demilich said:
"Keyword requires.

Spy is the only class that you can't luck out with all the time I'd say. Scout requires a fair bit of accuracy and speed as well. Demoman is second nature after a while however, though he might require a little skill at first."
I agree

I play mostly demo, and I do think the way I play the class, I use a lot of experience and skill. However, you can easily luck kills with demo too, or just camp and play negatively.

I am rubbish with most other classes. The one class I dont play, because I cant even luck a bit of success, is the Spy.

Just to do even half decent as a spy, you need to be cunning, skilled and experienced.
#18 Posted by BoG (5192 posts) -

Demoman, because some people can kill anything that moves with a demo man and I can't do anything with it.

#19 Posted by skywing (1153 posts) -

i play as a demoman and a medic most of the time but the class i am by far the worst in is spy
omg im such a bad spy, i'd have to say that spy takes the most skill.
dam im a bad spy.

#20 Posted by GIVEMEREPLAY (821 posts) -

I would have to agree with the spy. Every kill is deliberate (you won't be getting any offscreen kills like with the demo man, and you can't just pepper everything and run away like the scout), and every move must count. As a scout, you can get yourself into a mess and skitter away. As the spy, if you time your cloaking even a second too late or too early, you are going to get run down and killed. The spy is also called upon to be a bit of a psychic, as you must know where enemies are going to be, even if you aren't in the room yet. Unfortunately, as is the spy is kind of unifaceted. You can backstab guys who aren't paying attention, you can try to pursue someone running away from you, or you can die. It used to be that the spy was the #1 sentry killer, but the sapper nerf stopped that in its tracks. Perhaps with one of the next updates the spy will be recast as an uber killer, or a capture disrupter via some new weaponry.

#21 Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer (303 posts) -

Man I dunno, my favorite class is the demoman and I've become pretty good at it. I tend to think the scout is the toughest. I poured hours into that class and got nothin'. Some people will wreck you though. The spy can be challenging but I think you can get down a pattern of behavior. Also knowing when to back off, there's a escalation game there and sometimes they'll just lock you out if you push too hard. Pyro requires some stellar ambushing but I don't think it's necessarily difficult.

#22 Posted by masterlink43 (43 posts) -

Well, I think spy is probably the hardest class to learn, but soldier and demoman are the hardest to master. While anyone can just shoot rockets randomly or place stickies anywhere, really good players can absolutely devastate. What's hard is getting the trajectories perfect. It takes an assload of practice to be able to launch a person up and then hit them in the air with a pipe bomb or rocket.

#23 Posted by Vlademir (1029 posts) -
DanCarmichael said:
"I think this thread is asking for trouble."
Trouble's my middle name!
#24 Posted by TheAdmin (713 posts) -

I think they all take skill to be really good at. One class that is being overlooked is the sniper. I really good sniper is able to dominate and get headshot after headshot without getting killed. Another is demo-man. It takes skill to kill over and over especially in close quarters because they don't have a close attack. Timing sticky bomb jumps is also pretty tricky.

#25 Posted by Scorched (691 posts) -

hard question
they all play differently and require different kinds of skill
some people can play different classes better than others
personally I think the thing that takes the most skill is learning how to combine all the classes as a team for the most effective use

#26 Posted by Godzilla_Bankrolls (34 posts) -

Spy has the steepest learning curve, as he in only really effective once a knowledge of the map is attained. Otherwise, it's difficult to gauge when and where to cloak while not being seen. That, and people are far better at spotting Spies these days. Early on, Spy was pretty easy because no one thought to look for them, but now you'd be hard pressed to find an unguarded sentry gun or a Medic without his head on a swivel.

#27 Posted by MisterSpiffy (880 posts) -

Spy and demo, I think.

#28 Posted by OmNomNom (8 posts) -

Spy since the more people play, the more they spy-check and track them down.

#29 Posted by Homer (1372 posts) -

The demo and the spy.

#30 Posted by DARKIDO07 (876 posts) -
GIVEMEREPLAY said:
"I would have to agree with the spy. Every kill is deliberate (you won't be getting any offscreen kills like with the demo man, and you can't just pepper everything and run away like the scout), and every move must count. As a scout, you can get yourself into a mess and skitter away. As the spy, if you time your cloaking even a second too late or too early, you are going to get run down and killed. The spy is also called upon to be a bit of a psychic, as you must know where enemies are going to be, even if you aren't in the room yet. Unfortunately, as is the spy is kind of unifaceted. You can backstab guys who aren't paying attention, you can try to pursue someone running away from you, or you can die. It used to be that the spy was the #1 sentry killer, but the sapper nerf stopped that in its tracks. Perhaps with one of the next updates the spy will be recast as an uber killer, or a capture disrupter via some new weaponry."
Not to mention if even a little bit of fire hits you, you start on fire and your cover is blown.
#31 Posted by Termite (2398 posts) -

Spy and Medic. I play spy very well, and I have to say it's really become second nature for me. Some people watch those videos and stuff to get better but it's really not necessary. Although I did see one recently that at least gave me some names for the things I was already doing...

Stalking
Leapstabbing
Illusions
Corner cutting

All of those become obvious and second nature after a while. But it doesn't mean spy is easy, he's the hardest by quite a lot I would say.

And the second is Medic, because just so few people play him well.

#32 Posted by xruntime (1920 posts) -

Medic isn't that hard, I'd say. If you know which targets to heal first, then you're pretty much set. There are some noobs that dont play him well, but otherwise if you know what you're doing its not hard.

#33 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

Demo/Spy

#34 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -

spy is what i play most so its pretty hard but ive gotten great but the demo man is hard depending on what your doing if your using his first weapon then i find it hard but i like to use his secondary weapon and set traps for people 

#35 Posted by xxNBxx (980 posts) -

Yeah i would have to say the spy needs the most skill.  The scout would be second for me cause you really have very good accuracy

#36 Posted by AaronBelfast (1491 posts) -

Spy is so fucking hard!

#37 Posted by pyroblader9 (1 posts) -

I agree i play spy well but it requires a lot of training and research but personally i think that demo is the hardest class

#38 Posted by TobbRobb (4761 posts) -

I was gonna say something sarcastic, but this thread is from when classes were balanced. So you get a pass.

5 years ago I would probably either say Spy or Scout. Now everything is so jacked its hard to tell, too many setups of gear and potential countergear. It sure as hell isn't Spy anymore though.

#39 Edited by Demoskinos (15032 posts) -

Ill say I think personally for me its sniper. Mostly because im god damn terrible at sniping.

#40 Posted by Junior_AIN (200 posts) -

Scout.

The one that requires least skill is Demoman.

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