Binding of Isaac rejected from eShop due to religious content

#1 Posted by BisonHero (6166 posts) -

http://kotaku.com/5889193/indie-game-blocked-by-nintendo-over-questionable-religious-content

Maaaaan, I thought we were past this.

C'mon, Nintendo. Remember the good ol' Super Nintendo days? When you just blundered in there and replaced all of the crosses with ankhs, as if that fucking matters. And when you changed a Japanese title like "The Legend of Zelda: The Triforce of the Gods" to the nonsensical "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past", which is nothing but a terrible pun since the game has nothing to do with time travel and there is no titular link to the past, as there is no startling revelation about the backstory or anything.

So yeah, just demand McMillen can release the game as long as he removes all religious references, because we sure don't want to anger those Christian folks! Right? Or wait, better yet: I don't know, Nintendo, don't be so extremely family friendly just this once! It's a great game!

Anyway guys, try not to turn this topic into one giant religion vs. atheism flame war.

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#2 Posted by Milkman (16526 posts) -

Nintendo once again proving to be on the cutting edge. 

#3 Posted by Hailinel (23875 posts) -

Welcome to 1992?

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#4 Posted by LiquidPrince (15842 posts) -

@Milkman said:

Nintendo once again proving to be on the cutting edge.

Nintendo will never be cutting edge I fear. NEVER.

#5 Edited by bybeach (4724 posts) -

That's what makes the game. I don't want to overstate it, but I consider the premise brilliant. 
 
Well. sometimes you need shit like this for definition. To a lot of ppl. this game is wrong..so very wrong. Blasphemy maybe even.
#6 Posted by Animasta (14648 posts) -

to be fair, the wii IS the family home console...

#7 Posted by DrFlapjack (233 posts) -

This guy is classy enough for the eShop

#8 Posted by m0rdr3d (474 posts) -

Meh. I respect their decisions. Kudos to them for sticking to their model in the face of cynical hardcore gamers. Nintendo has done you bitter trolls a favor and given you all something to whine about.

#9 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -

Yeah, to me it's very understandable on their decision. Just play it on the PC and be happy.

#10 Posted by BigChickenDinner (766 posts) -

I think the real issue is that religious people might go on some crazy crusade against people or a company for something like a video game.

#11 Posted by Eirikr (1006 posts) -

I will be happily summoning Satan, Beelzebub, and Lucifer on my DS in Devil Survivor 2 once I'm able. And that's still only a T-rated game! Shame about this.

#12 Posted by Dallas_Raines (2133 posts) -

Yeah, I was about to bring up SMT.

#13 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@OllyOxenFree said:
Yeah, to me it's very understandable on their decision. Just play it on the PC and be happy.
Same here.  You don't have to be religious to understand that this game doesn't suit Nintendo's "family" image.  
 
@Hailinel said:

Welcome to 1992?

This isn't the same as mud blood by any means.  No content is being cut, it's just not coming to the console.
#14 Posted by katanalauncher (215 posts) -

How the hell would this game work on a Wii mote anyway?

#15 Posted by Hailinel (23875 posts) -

@katanalauncher said:

How the hell would this game work on a Wii mote anyway?

The game was to be on the 3DS.

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#16 Posted by SpunkyHePanda (1590 posts) -

It's kind of intense. I'm not convinced it could make it to XBLA or PSN either.

#17 Posted by ZenaxPure (2569 posts) -

I like that it's for religious reasons and not the fact that you play as a naked baby who cries on things.

#18 Edited by BisonHero (6166 posts) -

@SeriouslyNow said:

@OllyOxenFree said:
Yeah, to me it's very understandable on their decision. Just play it on the PC and be happy.
Same here. You don't have to be religious to understand that this game doesn't suit Nintendo's "family" image.

But Nintendo allows M-rated games to be released on their platforms. MadWorld on the Wii, GTA: Chinatown Wars on the DS - neither is a family game. So I guess this means that the eShop/WiiWare is considered a more direct representation of Nintendo than disc-based games? But that still seems preposterous, when most of the content on those services isn't even published by Nintendo, and Nintendo is really just a distributor.

Edit: Upon further examination, I don't think a single M-rated game has ever been released for DSiWare, WiiWare, or the eShop. I didn't check every single game, but I did look up anything whose title wasn't clearly a kid's game or a puzzle game. Now I'm curious whether this is a choice by developers/publishers, or a Nintendo mandate. Interestingly, the PSP Mini version of Hero of Sparta is rated M, but the DSiWare version is rated T.

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#19 Posted by Phatmac (5721 posts) -

Shame on Nintendo, they're missing out on a good game. To be honest, this makes some sense. Still, this is ridiculous. C'mon Nintendo. The E-shop could get better with games like this.

#20 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

Maybe it has nothing to do with religion but more how closely it resembles Legend of Zelda. I never played it, so what do I know. Article reading.

#21 Posted by BeachThunder (11692 posts) -

I would very much like to see what a censored version of Binding of Isaac would be like o_o He would have to change the entire premise of the game and remove a whole bunch of enemies and items.

#22 Posted by Vonocourt (2116 posts) -

@Claude said:

Maybe it has nothing to do with religion but more how closely it resembles Legend of Zelda. I never played it, so what do I know. Article reading.

Only in that the room designs and map are pretty much ripped straight from zelda, other than that they're not even close.

#23 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -
@BisonHero said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@OllyOxenFree said:
Yeah, to me it's very understandable on their decision. Just play it on the PC and be happy.
Same here. You don't have to be religious to understand that this game doesn't suit Nintendo's "family" image.

So I guess this means that the eShop/WiiWare is considered a more direct representation of Nintendo than disc-based games?

That's what I got out of it. Users who start up the eShop are greeted to several displays of the latest releases. If The Binding of Isaac is shown and its details are revealed to the religious-sensitive, then there may be an uproar on how Nintendo is allowing this to be shown on their service. Honestly, it's not really a big deal that they rejected it. There are still other awesome eShop titles that can be played.
#24 Edited by Claude (16254 posts) -
@Vonocourt said:

@Claude said:

Maybe it has nothing to do with religion but more how closely it resembles Legend of Zelda. I never played it, so what do I know. Article reading.

Only in that the room designs and map are pretty much ripped straight from zelda, other than that they're not even close.

Well there you go. Nintendo is a fickle company.
#25 Posted by spartanlolz92 (511 posts) -

eh whatever

nintendo has the family console market so i understand where there coming from

that game is pretty dark. power ups are you being a maochist to yourself. but none the less fun

#26 Posted by BrockNRolla (1702 posts) -

Would be a good fit. Tis a shame, but honestly, there is some mature-ass content in there. Scary religious stuff, violence, and naked children. I mean, is this really a surprise?

#27 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -

Maybe Nintendo are still pissed

#28 Edited by BoOzak (881 posts) -

@jonnyboy: lmao, that was great thank you ;p although I thought this guy was way funnier for some reason. (the other guy just freaked me out)

And yeah... this is just Nintendo being Nintendo, they're not willing to risk controversy over an Indie game, and I cant say I blame them. People are idiots...

#29 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11473 posts) -

Ehhh, It's not much of an issue. Anyone who has a 3DS has a computer capable of playing The Binding of Isaac. Is censorship bad or whatever? Sure. But there are other, more infuriating things to complain about than a somewhat unnecessary port of a game that has been available for months.

#30 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -

Watch out! An allusion that might offend somebody!

#31 Posted by Apathylad (3066 posts) -

This doesn't bother me. Even with removing the religious references in the game, Binding of Isaac is still pretty messed up. I could easily see a news broadcast taking the premise out of context and make a sensationalist headline out of it. "A new Nintendo video game has you killing your mother!"

#32 Posted by JudgeDread (571 posts) -

Zelda: Paganism

Pokemon: Slavery/Dogfighting

Luigis Mansion: Occult

looks like they should clean up their own ballcourt first..

#33 Posted by White_Silhouette (470 posts) -

I think this game would have actually done something neat with the 3D due to the simplistic design and layout of the game. Oh well, not really surprised it's not coming out on the e-shop. Sucks for those waiting for it. But I highly doubt it would come out on any closed platform.

#34 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -

Why is anyone even surprised? I extremely disagree with them, but Nintendo wants to be family friendly and this obviously does not fit it.

#35 Posted by Tacoboy1986 (143 posts) -

At first I was a bit upset, I would love to have this game on the go. I just bought it on steam today for my Macbook and its a ton of fun, In a sense I have a portable version. Its just not on the 3DS.

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