20 minutes of gameplay leaked for ES: online

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#1 Edited by Aegon (5641 posts) -

I don't think Bethesda is happy about this...

#2 Posted by Ghostiet (5281 posts) -

I can't say I am too happy about it. Looks generic as all hell.

#3 Posted by MentalDisruption (1635 posts) -

Looks fairly boring. Can't say I'm totally surprised, but still.

#4 Edited by tourgen (4502 posts) -

man everything about this game just seems unnecessary and dull

thanks for the link though. god damn though, so generic

#5 Posted by Benny (1953 posts) -

Oh dear, looks so plain.

#6 Posted by joshthebear (2700 posts) -

Oh jeez...

#7 Posted by altairre (1192 posts) -

Looks even worse than I anticipated. I don't think that's gonna work out for them.

#8 Edited by Colourful_Hippie (4352 posts) -

Yup, that looks like a massively multiplayer online game with a fantasy RPG spin.

#9 Posted by Funkydupe (3320 posts) -

Hm. Maybe I should reinstall Everquest 2.

#10 Posted by Daneian (1232 posts) -

I got so bored watching that that I forgot I was watching it.

#11 Posted by Nilazz (613 posts) -

Bring out the lube!

#12 Posted by jimmyfenix (3855 posts) -

bring out fallout 4 already!

#13 Edited by Quarters (1707 posts) -

Woof. Looks dated enough(in terms of not just graphics, but concepts and UI) to have started development around the time of Morrowind.

#14 Edited by BillyTheKid (486 posts) -

Those loading screens tho....

But really looks like another generic MMO, a sad story behind this honestly.

#15 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3400 posts) -

Depends on the play model. If this is free-to-play I'm all for it looks decent enough, if this game has subscriptions costs good luck on that one Bethesda.

#16 Posted by OfficeGamer (1087 posts) -

Say what you will, but the Elder Scrolls universe manages to remain so freaking fascinating, the environments just make me wanna be there you know?

#17 Posted by RVonE (4638 posts) -

It's definitely because of my expectations of a game bearing the TES name but this looks like hot garbage to me.

#18 Edited by ArbitraryWater (11744 posts) -

Yep... that's certainly a fantasy MMO alright.

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#19 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

Woah wait. Who actually thought it would be a great game to begin with? This whole project is a bad idea to begin with.

#20 Posted by gogosox82 (424 posts) -

Well it didn't look that great but to be fair, this is beta footage and the dude who was playing was derping around a lot( seriously who spends five minutes going through menus but speeds through npc conversations the first time you play the game?). But man it does look dated. Hope they aren't going with sub model for this.

#21 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

Yeah - not too impressed by their take on *action combat*. Would probably translate much better, if the video would show a melee-centric class. Regardless - even if it feels better than it looks, it just seems like an extremely low-fi take on action combat - blocky hitboxes, lacking hit feedback, and a complete lack of any satisfying physics simulation.

It's Beta, they're not yet ready to show the game yet - so I'll taking it with a grain of salt. Hoping for the best. Their promises are certainly exciting on paper, just hoping it translates into an exciting game too in the end.

#22 Posted by Hockeymask27 (3683 posts) -

Well thats cool?......Why not just make like a 4 player version of skyrim or something.

#23 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

@hockeymask27 said:

Well thats cool?......Why not just make like a 4 player version of skyrim or something.

I think Elder Scrolls should follow the lead of Dark Souls, and try a much more arcane take on massive multiplayer online.

Essentially just build your regular Elder Scrolls singleplayer experience with a Massively Multiplayer twist - by actively directing player encounters and phasing players into varied multiplayer scenarios dynamically. Like a GameMaster-AI, that's setting up coop and competitive and social experiences on the fly, if the circumstances allow for such a thing organically - depending on what the player is doing, and where he is in the gameworld - and maybe respect some preferences, so the player gets an experience that's not completely counter to his wishes.

It's about putting the magic back into the genre by making player encounters highly unpredictable and much more interactive and less formulaic. A mysterious world, full of strangers, with hidden agendas, that may be counter to your own. A most simple example? Doing an Escort mission? Well - the game phases this group of friends whom are into open PvP into your game and tips them off about your charge. That kind of stuff.

Just think of a tavern, the players phased into the tavern with you might just be other players with no hidden agenda concerning you - looking for a group, wanting to trade, or just talk - but maybe somebody is an assassin, a headhunter after the bounty on your head, or a thief hired to steal an item off you, that you've gotten from a seemingly simple fetch quest - by whatever means available to him. That's the future of MMOs, at least if I'd have a say in it.

Games like APB tried their hand at such designs, and failed miserably - but it's definitely a path that has to be followed. Somebody will succeed, and it will be breathtaking.

#24 Edited by Tarsier (1064 posts) -

something about watching MMO gameplay makes me physically sick to my stomach. the bad graphics, the bad animations, the tedious gameplay. . . eughhgh brb puking

#25 Edited by BaneFireLord (2935 posts) -

As a long time Elder Scrolls fan, this is all I have to say about this:

#26 Posted by WasabiCurry (422 posts) -

Beta is indeed beta.

I just hope that they will improve a lot....

#27 Edited by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

Depends on the play model. If this is free-to-play I'm all for it looks decent enough, if this game has subscriptions costs good luck on that one Bethesda.

Free-to-play would in a sense mean it is just a very very very expensive ES5 game that is sometimes unplayable because of outages. Unless the items and bonuses in the shop are stellar I don't expect many will bother spending a dime.

#28 Posted by ripelivejam (3975 posts) -

@tarsier said:

something about watching MMO gameplay makes me physically sick to my stomach. the bad graphics, the bad animations, the tedious gameplay. . . eughhgh brb puking

internet overreactions 101 right here

#29 Posted by pyrodactyl (2041 posts) -

@extomar said:

@i_stay_puft said:

Depends on the play model. If this is free-to-play I'm all for it looks decent enough, if this game has subscriptions costs good luck on that one Bethesda.

Free-to-play would in a sense mean it is just a very very very expensive WoW clone that takes place in the elder scroll universe. Unless the items and bonuses in the shop are stellar I don't expect many will bother spending a dime.

Fixed that for you. Don't compare this garbage with an Elder Scroll game

#30 Posted by project343 (2827 posts) -

Aside from the obvious mob tuning/difficulty issues here, I think the biggest problem is how stale the art style and environments look. I don't care if we're talking about low-res textures, but there's no dynamism to the world. It's flat, it's boring, and it isn't moving. What they need is some serious work with god-rays, particle effects, wildlife, and ambient sounds: they need to inject some life into that particular zone.

I mean, the previous game in this franchise/universe was acclaimed for how much its world pulled you in. When you climb those mountains in Skyrim, you feel cold. When you see a fox running around, you follow it. When you come up to a small river trickling down-mountain, you can practically smell the fresh air.

The rest of the criticism is irrelevant for the time being. This was a player who had no skills, didn't know how to play, and was judging the game within his/her first 20 minutes of play (which, in turn, coloured his footage in a particularly negative light). I'll wait to see later game content from experienced players before letting this damper my expectations completely.

#31 Edited by Excast (935 posts) -

It's kind of a bummer that they have to bring this game out. I mean, I realize they started it years ago when MMOs were more viable, but everybody knows this thing is going to fail. It must suck to be investing time and money into a project that you know has very little chance to succeed years before it even comes out.

#32 Edited by Jams (2961 posts) -
@aegon said:

I don't think Bethesda is happy about this...

link

They must have taken it down because that link takes me to the homepage. I did see something about a 410 error before it redirected in the browser though.

#33 Edited by Jams (2961 posts) -

Damn I can't find it anywhere now.

#34 Edited by Tarsier (1064 posts) -

@ripelivejam said:

@tarsier said:

something about watching MMO gameplay makes me physically sick to my stomach. the bad graphics, the bad animations, the tedious gameplay. . . eughhgh brb puking

internet overreactions 101 right here

if this gameplay isnt from a pre-alpha placeholder build of the game i am going to officially hang myself

#35 Posted by TruthTellah (9116 posts) -

Woah. That upcoming MMO looks like a MMO.

#36 Edited by Zornack (195 posts) -
#37 Posted by TheHT (11289 posts) -

Remember when we all dreamed of an Elder Scrolls MMO. *sigh*

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#38 Edited by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

@extomar said:

@i_stay_puft said:

Depends on the play model. If this is free-to-play I'm all for it looks decent enough, if this game has subscriptions costs good luck on that one Bethesda.

Free-to-play would in a sense mean it is just a very very very expensive WoW clone that takes place in the elder scroll universe. Unless the items and bonuses in the shop are stellar I don't expect many will bother spending a dime.

Fixed that for you. Don't compare this garbage with an Elder Scroll game

Why was I wrong? Is it because you think Elder Scroll is precious to you? Too bad Bethesda feels differently and wants to take it in this direction for some reason.

#39 Edited by jakob187 (21672 posts) -
#40 Posted by iceman228433 (616 posts) -

I can tell you this they have along way to go because that looks like crap. Wow I mean just wow and that thing will look even worse when next gen consoles come out.

#41 Edited by McShank (1629 posts) -

The beta I don't think has been launched yet, so I believe this is still alpha. Either way, its an early staged life of an mmo, what did you expect?

#42 Posted by Codeacious (960 posts) -

It doesn't look nearly done, but man, that combat screams boring.

#43 Edited by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

MMOs take a long time to craft. If this is Alpha that means it can be fixed but the game is years from release. If they try to do a release in a year in this state it is going to be worse than FF14. If the game is still years from release, the tech and design moves on where if they aren't careful they end up like SWTOR which was released with on really advanced feature while the rest of it was stuck in 2005.

I was never excited about the idea of taking ES into a MMO architecture. We have enough fantasy games that try to be gritty and serious and flopped where I'm still unsure why or how ESO is going to dodge that bullet.

#44 Edited by TrafalgarLaw (1130 posts) -

@mcshank said:

The beta I don't think has been launched yet, so I believe this is still alpha. Either way, its an early staged life of an mmo, what did you expect?

It's in beta with only 6 months to go. Looks like utter shit.

#45 Edited by TwoArmed (114 posts) -

Hopefully that's not Beta footage.

#46 Edited by SSully (4191 posts) -

I would hate to be a developer for this game... Bad press and public opinion before they even hit go.

#47 Posted by Jams (2961 posts) -

I don't know if I can stand to watch 20 mins of this.

#48 Edited by TheCreamFilling (1225 posts) -

Morrowind felt like an Elder Scrolls MMO more than this does. Seems like they just slapped the name on another WoW clone.

#49 Edited by pyrodactyl (2041 posts) -

@extomar: I have no problem with them taking the franchise in that direction since it will most likely crash and burn, showing them the errors of their ways and compeling them to make good games I actualy want to play. Just don't go on calling this thing ES5 because they will make that in 4 or 5 years and it won't have anything to do with this non-sense.

#50 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

Just what the Elder Scrolls fans wanted; an MMO. Good job, Bethesda... 100s of millions wasted on what will become a F2P game 6 months after it's release.

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