Anyone got the hang of the law enforcement system yet?

#1 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

I was very confused by the law enforcement in Oblivion the first time I played it. A good example is when i stole from empty houses, the guards outside knew about it.  
So right now I don't feel like experimenting with crimes because i might make a save and then find out I'm an outlaw later, or something, and I'm not a high enough level to take on too many enemies.  
Does anyone have any guidelines on how and when to freely commit crime? When are stealing/murder not detected? Are there psychic guards? Is there a difference between doing it in a town or a mountain shack? 
Also, for how long do you remain wanted? Are there bounty hunters like in Red Dead Redemption? etc..

#2 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

I've been hearing people say psychic guards are back in, but I've seen people say they aren't as well. So I don't know who to believe.

#3 Posted by Junkerman (271 posts) -

I've been stealing and havent been caught. If your cautious and a good thief you shouldnt have any problems. Make a lot of hard saves and dont rely on auto too much to avoid any potential glitch gambits.

#4 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

@CL60 said:

I've been hearing people say psychic guards are back in, but I've seen people say they aren't as well. So I don't know who to believe.

It's on and off which is the worst because I don't know what the fuck to expect.

#5 Posted by Marnox (327 posts) -

Sneak, steal when you hare "hidden". No one will know.

#6 Posted by mason_pat (59 posts) -

I have not encountered any psychic guards yet. I've played like 50 hours and whenever I've killed someone in public I've made sure to be hidden. same goes for stealing.

I am really impressed with the lack of psychic guards... which is kind of sad to begin with, but oh well.

#7 Posted by Beforet (2927 posts) -

Apparently, one should beware the chickens.

#8 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

I havent been playing a stealth/theaf but It sounds like while the guards may not be psychick the animals are considerd citizans when determaning if people can see you

#9 Posted by Veektarius (4920 posts) -

I was in the Dwemer museum, which is patrolled by three or four guards, opened a door, didn't close it behind me, waited til no guard was in sight and then stole a gem without even crouching and no one noticed.

#10 Posted by MikkaQ (10317 posts) -

You need to crouch and be in a hidden state fo steal and get away with it.

#11 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -

Not psychic my ass. While I've never been caught stealing or murdering, every NPC in passing will talk about me like "they know", until I talk to them directly and everything is suddenly just peachy.

It makes me wanna ride a giant dragon and incinerate/freeze their whole village down, two-faced inhabitants and all! Know what I mean?

#12 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -

I've been robbing people blind, I have like 400 stolen items total and not a single guard has said a thing

#13 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

Fingerprints man, aren't you wearing gloves?

#14 Posted by Drakoji (223 posts) -

The only time I got caught it was when I talked to the guards and they go "hey... I know you..." and then tell me they had reports about me.

#15 Posted by imsh_pl (3298 posts) -

I'm pretty sure someone has to see you commit a crime in order for you to have a bounty. Just crouch before picking locks and if you are hidden you should have no problems.

#16 Posted by AuthenticM (3761 posts) -

Does the game differentiate between stolen loot and regular loot?

#17 Posted by AlexW00d (6302 posts) -

If you steal whilst hidden, which you should be anyway, then they'll never know.

#18 Posted by Linkster7 (1035 posts) -

I have been stealing the whole game and the guards have never known. There was once when a blacks smith sent 3 heavily armored people to kill me for stealing from him though. I have no idea how he knew it was me.

#19 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Just make sure that the stealth indicator is completely closed. To be on the safe side try and steal stuff when there's no one in the room. Finally, if you ****ed up you can check your bounty in General Stats i think.

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