The fifth installment in Bethesda's Elder Scrolls franchise is set in the eponymous province of Skyrim, where the ancient threat of dragons, led by the sinister Alduin, is rising again to threaten all mortal races. Only the player, as the prophesied hero the Dovahkiin, can save the world from destruction.
This will sound completely insane, but this game would not have really any adventure. I want to play Bethesda type RPG where you are just a normal dude. Actually more accurately I want a game that fulfills the promises Peter molyneux made about Fable 2. Remember When he said the reason that quests rewarded no money, was you have to get a job like a normal person. He said you could be a blacksmith and become this world famous blacksmith. If they could actually make it work, I think this is an amazing idea. Not just blacksmith, but you could be a merchant, a farmer, politician, or a guard.
How awesome would it be to be a guard. You got these damn heroes coming into your town messing stuff up, and you gotta deal with them. I would love a much smaller scale game. maybe it takes place entirely in just one of the 9 holds of Skyrim. What I am suggesting is Bethesda essentially makes a Harvest Moon type game. If it only took place in one of the 9 holds, that would make all the NPCs much deeper. Taking more things from harvest moon, you would have to sleep every night and time would actually pass. I think it would be a very interesting game. I have the feeling that no one but me would find "Life as an NPC the game" interesting at all.
It's kinda like what Dave said on yesterday's bombcast. "I don't want to be the Jedi. I want to be the support/side character." We've played the Hero's story a zillion times. I want a more personal story to play about the farmer that protects his land from bandits, or the crooked merchant that has deals with the thieves guild. it's Seinfeld the game, it's a game about nothing.
This will sound completely insane, but this game would not have really any adventure. I want to play Bethesda type RPG where you are just a normal dude. Actually more accurately I want a game that fulfills the promises Peter molyneux made about Fable 2. Remember When he said the reason that quests rewarded no money, was you have to get a job like a normal person. He said you could be a blacksmith and become this world famous blacksmith. If they could actually make it work, I think this is an amazing idea. Not just blacksmith, but you could be a merchant, a farmer, politician, or a guard.
How awesome would it be to be a guard. You got these damn heroes coming into your town messing stuff up, and you gotta deal with them. I would love a much smaller scale game. maybe it takes place entirely in just one of the 9 holds of Skyrim. What I am suggesting is Bethesda essentially makes a Harvest Moon type game. If it only took place in one of the 9 holds, that would make all the NPCs much deeper. Taking more things from harvest moon, you would have to sleep every night and time would actually pass. I think it would be a very interesting game. I have the feeling that no one but me would find "Life as an NPC the game" interesting at all.
It's kinda like what Dave said on yesterday's bombcast. "I don't want to be the Jedi. I want to be the support/side character." We've played the Hero's story a zillion times. I want a more personal story to play about the farmer that protects his land from bandits, or the crooked merchant that has deals with the thieves guild. it's Seinfeld the game, it's a game about nothing.
I see what you mean.... I can see how this could work
Like instead of the dark brotherhood questline, you would have the blacksmith questline. You start as a trainee and in actual in-game years you become the best blacksmith in all of skyrim. There would be interesting things that would happen, like beating rival blacksmiths and stuff like that. For some reason being a normal guy in any RPG setting, seems interesting.
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
I understand not being some kind of super hero in a game. It would be interesting if you played just a common soldier in the army, no special destiny or magical powers. As a normal soldier you would just be another guy fighting in a battle of hundreds, doing small things and rising through the ranks over time. An interesting story could be built. But just being a shop keeper and looking out the window and seeing the dragon and having nothing to do with it?
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
I understand not being some kind of super hero in a game. It would be interesting if you played just a common soldier in the army, no special destiny or magical powers. As a normal soldier you would just be another guy fighting in a battle of hundreds, doing small things and rising through the ranks over time. An interesting story could be built. But just being a shop keeper and looking out the window and seeing the dragon and having nothing to do with it?
You could buy the parts of the dragon from the guy who had something to do with it for a cheap price. Then demand 5x as much gold for him to buy it back.
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
You are never a "normal" dude in a video game. Even if you were a farmer, by the end of the storyline you would be doing something crazy, like somehow fending off a dragon from destroying your crops, or becoming the Skyrim version of Monsanto, or something.
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
You are never a "normal" dude in a video game. Even if you were a farmer, by the end of the storyline you would be doing something crazy, like somehow fending off a dragon from destroying your crops, or becoming the Skyrim version of Monsanto, or something.
I suppose so, that would actually be the interesting thing.
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
I understand not being some kind of super hero in a game. It would be interesting if you played just a common soldier in the army, no special destiny or magical powers. As a normal soldier you would just be another guy fighting in a battle of hundreds, doing small things and rising through the ranks over time. An interesting story could be built. But just being a shop keeper and looking out the window and seeing the dragon and having nothing to do with it?
You could buy the parts of the dragon from the guy who had something to do with it for a cheap price. Then demand 5x as much gold for him to buy it back.
and sell the gear to the guy that took down the dragon. Maybe you hire the Dark brotherhood to rub out the competition, thus making you the only game in town. Or you could a quest-giver for once.
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
I understand not being some kind of super hero in a game. It would be interesting if you played just a common soldier in the army, no special destiny or magical powers. As a normal soldier you would just be another guy fighting in a battle of hundreds, doing small things and rising through the ranks over time. An interesting story could be built. But just being a shop keeper and looking out the window and seeing the dragon and having nothing to do with it?
You could buy the parts of the dragon from the guy who had something to do with it for a cheap price. Then demand 5x as much gold for him to buy it back.
and sell the gear to the guy that took down the dragon. Maybe you hire the Dark brotherhood to rub out the competition, thus making you the only game in town. Or you could a quest-giver for once.
Let's not forget fun minigames like: "lowball the customer" "inventory time" "quarterly tax statements" and "take estimates for shop expansion!"
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
@ninjakiller said:
@McGhee said:
I already have a shitty job in real life. What in your game would make having a shitty job fun?
it takes place in Skyrim. even tho your just a normal dude, there are still dragons and mages and craziness happening around you.
I understand not being some kind of super hero in a game. It would be interesting if you played just a common soldier in the army, no special destiny or magical powers. As a normal soldier you would just be another guy fighting in a battle of hundreds, doing small things and rising through the ranks over time. An interesting story could be built. But just being a shop keeper and looking out the window and seeing the dragon and having nothing to do with it?
You could buy the parts of the dragon from the guy who had something to do with it for a cheap price. Then demand 5x as much gold for him to buy it back.
and sell the gear to the guy that took down the dragon. Maybe you hire the Dark brotherhood to rub out the competition, thus making you the only game in town. Or you could a quest-giver for once.
Let's not forget fun minigames like: "lowball the customer" "inventory time" "quarterly tax statements" and "take estimates for shop expansion!"
I forgot to mention that this basically has been done before with /recettear-an-item-shops-tale/61-32155/ which I hear is a good game. Even in that game, though, you do go into the dungeons with the heroes, your main character is just not the one doing all the fighting. This kind of game can be done, I just don't know if it fits the Bethesda play style, but I could be wrong. :P
Your pitch sounds like the opposite of fun. If some other indie studio wants to make this weird game that caters to weirdos who want to do real life tasks in real time in a game then great. Bethesda though should just keep doing what they're doing.
sounds like my time in FFXI, though it was more of a reputation because the crafting grind was so hard that there were people who were at the top and you knew them by name and had them craft all your good items for a premium... thus they had gained fame on a server basis for being one of the most reliable crafters in the game. But guess your talking more single player.
it's Seinfeld the game, it's a game about nothing.
Someone already beat you to this idea, a lot of games now a days are about nothing. But I think personally I would enjoy a game like this, I spend most of my time in Skyrim doing mundane tasks like hunting, crafting, mining, ect.
Sounds like what you're asking for isn't much more than recognition. For instance, I'm already by far the best blacksmith in Skyrim, I've yet to meet my better, but nobody's rushing up to buy my wares. I have to go door-to-door like a fucking tupperware salesman trying to force it on weaker smiths who don't have the coin to buy my art.
All it would take is for that radiant quest system to spawn me up a fanboy. There should be someone other than me who has a use for this junk.
As for being a guard, I can't see that being much fun unless the game is entirely focused on it. Most of the time guards just guard stuff and that sounds pretty boring.
Sounds like what you're asking for isn't much more than recognition. For instance, I'm already by far the best blacksmith in Skyrim, I've yet to meet my better, but nobody's rushing up to buy my wares. I have to go door-to-door like a fucking tupperware salesman trying to force it on weaker smiths who don't have the coin to buy my art.
All it would take is for that radiant quest system to spawn me up a fanboy. There should be someone other than me who has a use for this junk.
As for being a guard, I can't see that being much fun unless the game is entirely focused on it. Most of the time guards just guard stuff and that sounds pretty boring.
Yes I suppose if you could just open a blacksmith shop and have that fanboy stand behind the counter. that would be ok.
For the guard stuff I was thinking, instead of the one of the guilds questline you'd have the guard questline. you patrol, stop robbers, defend the town from bandits, solve a murder, be a dick to the hero. Then you become guard captain and you can choose to be a good cop or a dirty cop. You can make your town the shining beacon of justice or the most corrupt place in the world.
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