The fifth installment in Bethesda's Elder Scrolls franchise is set in the eponymous province of Skyrim, where the ancient threat of dragons, led by the sinister Alduin, is rising again to threaten all mortal races. Only the player, as the prophesied hero the Dovahkiin, can save the world from destruction.
You will be missing out on the fun! But I do understand the disappointment of how they are handling that. I do think they may be simplifying things too much but I want to wait to pass judgment.
Yeah, because having intelligence and willpower really made the game amazingly deep for the discerning gamer, as opposed to combining them into one, which makes it shit. Thatwasajoke.
I think it's rather foolish to just blast the game this early without seeing it in action, if I were you I'd at least watch some of it when it's out as these condensed game mechanics might work & might still be fun. If nothing else give it a rent to find out firsthand.
So, is there still going to be that stat multiplier system that's based on which skills are leveled? I didn't like having to go way out of my way to get the 5x stat multipliers.
i won't buy it. . . right away that is cause i noe tons of dlc is going to come out (i.e. oblivion game of the year and fallout 3 game of the year) just wait for those
" "Howard noted that the eight original character attributes from previous Elder Scrolls games have been condensed into three: magica, health, and stamina."
This is exactly what I did not want, it is too simplified. R.I.P Bethesda
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Fuck you. Read all of it. The Attributes never made the game complicated.
Did you read how perks were added? THAT ALONE makes the game more complex than Oblivion. On top of that, the combat has become much more complex (no longer a simple back pedal and fireball or block and attack twice cycle), with dual wielding, combining spells, and shouts. The skills will also branch, from what I've heard, allowing for more customization and depth.
On top of that, the dungeons will be crafted with much more skill (by level designers rather than artists), the quest system will allow for the game to to make sure you get a much wider content experience, and the relationships you have with NPC's, based on your actions rather than a silly little skill that you get up by playing an annoying mini-game, have actual ramifications. If they like you, you'll be forgiven if you mess with their stuff. If they hate you, they might pull a sword on you rather than call for the guards.
Stop reading one little fucking fact and whining. And find out why they are doing that.
And if you were being sarcastic, a double fuck you to you. What a waste of a thread. If not, this is tough love. Get the fucking game, or don't, but don't act like the game is going to be a piece of shit for some unimportant factor being removed.
@luce:What the hell is wrong with you. THAT SHOULD BE ON THE BOX IN BOLD MASSIVE LETTERS. Also, customization, dawg.
I'm buying the special edition , or collectors edition oh and I'll be buying this for PS3 and PC. (keep in mind I have no PS3 nor a PC that could run this.) But those are just minor issues.
" Not to break the combo of people jumping down his throat, but I think there is a legitimate grievance here.
Taking away choice is never good for the player, only for the developer's payroll. "
It would be a legitimate issue if you were looking at it in a vacuum. On the outset, yes, removing stats does seem like simplifying the game a bit, but if you look at the bigger picture and see what they're actually adding to the character growth system -- the perks -- then there's going to be a lot more choice for a player overall. They're removing some aspects that barely have any effect, or just supplementary effects to the skills, and replacing it with something with a lot more potential for customization.
Agreed. In order to have a good character at higher levels, the stat system in Oblivion forced a playstyle that was completely bizarre and unnatural - I mean, unless you really like summoning hundreds of skeletons in a row and jumping everywhere while you do it. Are these the same people who actually enjoyed the convoluted armor/weapon/fucking grenade mods in Mass Effect? I always felt ambivalent about Oblivion because of how its incredibly stupid and overwrought stat/leveling system got in the way of the gameplay and exploration (not to mention the awkward, wooden npcs, horrible generic dungeons and etc). And I just can't get behind a game that I don't feel is playable until it's been modified.
I like to think of complexity as a sandwich. You don't want just ham on your sandwich, as that'd be boring. However, you don't want peanut butter, ham, onions, steak, candy corn, and lettuce on your sandwich either.
To me, Oblivion was a ham sandwich with expired cheese, some onions, lettuce, mustard, and some ranch. There was some stuff to love, but you had to pick around a lot of crap to get to it.
This post has given me a great idea for a website, in which I review every game I play in sandwich terms.
I like to think of complexity as a sandwich. You don't want just ham on your sandwich, as that'd be boring. However, you don't want peanut butter, ham, onions, steak, candy corn, and lettuce on your sandwich either. To me, Oblivion was a ham sandwich with expired cheese, some onions, lettuce, mustard, and some ranch. There was some stuff to love, but you had to pick around a lot of crap to get to it. This post has given me a great idea for a website, in which I review every game I play in sandwich terms.
Love it!! People bashed DA2 before it was out about how they streamlined stuff, made the game more action based, and people jumped the the gun and said the same things that are being said in this forum. LoL. That one came out and it was slammed for it.
That same thing, is not really happening hear cause we know jack and shit about the leveling system in the game. im sure the game will be great or at least look great...but this topic and reading the reply's made me remember DA2.
This happens every year with one major sequel or a other lol.
"Howard noted that the eight original character attributes from previous Elder Scrolls games have been condensed into three: magica, health, and stamina."
This is exactly what I did not want, it is too simplified. R.I.P Bethesda"
...but when so many of the old attributes in these games are hard to discern from one another, does it really hurt the overall experience that much.
Sacrificing number-crunching for some honest-to-god gameplay is hardly a sin.
I will be buying Skyrim.
If you considered leveling up in the originals "number crunching" you've got some issues to sort out.
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