So I know this isn't a big deal, but I always found it a bit odd that Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas did not have climbable ladders.  Now I know they had ladders that you could click that would prompt a loading screen, but I'm referring to actually moving up and down on a ladder.  Once I realized these were absent I couldn't help but notice every time they created a work-around for not having ladders.  The large ramp areas in Oblivion and Fallout 3 come to mind. 
 
I haven't seen the question posed on here, but do you think they will be able to use ladders in Skyrim?  Do you even care about them?  I realize they most likely didn't use them because of NPC tracking issues and bugs that are associated with bottle neck type areas...I'm sure it wasn't due to an graphics engine issue. 
  
Personally I would like to see them in Skyrim.  I feel they are part of the lore and are pretty standard in games of this sort.

They have spoke openly about this. The way the engine handled AI, ladders either made things really complicated or the AI just couldn't deal with it and it caused buggy behaviour. Maybe a new engine will change that.

The developers have said that it is a problem with the graphics engine.

But ladders as "part of the lore?" What?

I don't feel large ramps in Oblivion or Fallout are work arounds for ladders. I mean I never see any ladders in the real world you need to climb to get to places.

In fact I probably only climbed a ladder once this year to trim a tree.

The developers have said that it is a problem with the graphics engine.

But ladders as "part of the lore?" What?

No ladders, no purchase.

If they don't have ladders in this game I'm going to kill myself.

Peition for ladders in Skyrim?

Medieval ladders were full of fucking loading screens, read a book.

verticle ascension tools....just awesome.

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I don't mind them not being there, ladders can be one of the most pain in the ass objects when it comes to climbing down them. You either have to slowly inch your way off the ledge where the ladder is or jump of and hope you can turn around and grab it again (Assuming it's not button prompt style).

I like me some grappling hooks. BF2 Special Forces was awesome with grapple rope and zip line tools. A zip line would be silly for this setting, but a hooked rope seems perfect.

In fact I probably only climbed a ladder once this year to trim a tree.

god dammit, you just ruined bethesda games for me. i never really noticed the lack of ladders

@rebgav said:

Medieval ladders were full of fucking loading screens, read a book.

Fucking lol

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@rebgav said:

Medieval ladders were full of fucking loading screens, read a book.

There is a meme starter if I ever saw one.

They said they just couldn't get ladders to work the way they wanted to in Fallout, and considering Skyrim uses the same engine, it's safe to say it wouldn't be any different.

I sadly can't find any Ladder lore on The Elder Scrolls wiki.

@MrKlorox said:

I like me some grappling hooks. BF2 Special Forces was awesome with grapple rope and zip line tools. A zip line would be silly for this setting, but a hooked rope seems perfect.

So, Thief?

I always pull out my large ramp to replace a burnt out lightbulb.

@Irvandus said:

I sadly can't find any Ladder lore on The Elder Scrolls wiki.

What? You've never heard of the sad tale of Rungs-with-Load-Screen?

Ladders will be a pre-order bonus.

@TheGreatGuero:

Skyrim uses a new engine.

I must start using the word "Vertical ascension tool" instead of "ladder".

The only ladders I could see in an Elder Scrolls games is the "I'm walking upwards even though I'm actually climbing" type of ladder.

@rebgav said:

Medieval ladders were full of fucking loading screens, read a book.

rofl  

Ladders = shortcuts = Good

MAke a game called "Lore of Ladders"

It's about a one rung's journey to the top.

Skyrim does not use the same engine. They replaced so much of it that it's a new engine. I think I recall seeing a ladder in the full-length gameplay demo when he frenzies the guard to attack the other guard. I'll check later. Either way, I could not care less. I love tedious games that inconvenience me but I don't think slowly climbing ladders would add anything worthwhile.

the idea that ladders breaks the game so they just have large ramps is mind boggling.

the idea that ladders breaks the game so they just have large ramps is mind boggling.

I was thinking of where he fights the frost dragon. In the edited version of the demo, he goes in the tower and appears on top of it. In the unedited version, he walks up stairs. Like you would normally find in a tower.

No ladders, no purchase.

I've died so many times in games because it wanted me to go up a ladder in first person. Dude fuck ladders.

Wow, just noticed I spelled 'opinions' wrong as well.  I will try another post when I have something seemingly witty and entertaining to share.

Now I desperately want to climb a ladder and shoot at stupid Ai guards. "You N'WAH!"

I always pull out my large ramp to replace a burnt out lightbulb.

Vertical Ascension Tools spells VATs.

Vertical Ascension Tools spells VATs.

@KarlPilkington said:

In fact I probably only climbed a ladder once this year to trim a tree.

Now that I think about it I haven't climbed a ladder in like 3 years.Seriously, the only people who would need to do that are people who work construction or roofs.When do you ever see a ladder as an alternative route to a elevator?No it's stairs, aka a high slope. So I don't really see why a game needs ladders.

They're talked about hot vertical a lot of the areas in the game are, in the mountains and places like that, I would assume there will be ladders.

Probably won't be tho.

Ladders are a next-generation technological achievement in Bethesda time.