Origins of the dragon names

#1 Edited by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

The names of the characters in The Elder Scrolls series are usually lifted from different cultures in the world. Nords have old nordic names, imperials have roman names, Cyrodiilians have french-ish names, Khajit african/middle eastern-inspired (yeah, that's a too broad scope, but still). Do anyone know where the dragon names comes from?

Examples: Mirmulnir, Nahagliiv, Vuljotnaak, Paarthurnax

Is this just all made up or is there a real world connection here?

#2 Posted by MaFoLu (1858 posts) -

They all sound kinda weird so it has to be icelandic, right?

#3 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@Christoffer said:

Is this just all made up or is there a real world connection here?

They are made up, But they followed a methodology to create the Sound, Aesthetic and overall Feel of the "Dragon Culture" in Skyrim. Check the Special Edition Documentary is pretty good.

#4 Posted by Galiant (2179 posts) -

The dragon names are made up of three dragon words (like the shouts), and the dragon language is made up by some guy at Bethesda. Sometimes there are dragon words similar to words I recognize (in Swedish) and it would make sense if there's a nordic influence there too I guess, but it's all made up in the end. It doesn't happen often.

I remember specifically a dragon word "tiid" which sounds like the Swedish for time, which is "tid", and the dragon shout in question manipulated time.

#5 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (183 posts) -

All the names were plagiarized from the language in Enemy Mine, which still makes me cry. 
  

#6 Posted by Xolare (1273 posts) -

They're all based off of the Dragon Language, which is based off of multiple scandinavian languages.

#7 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

This is weird. Mere moments after I post this I stumble upon the quest where Esbern explains the three word logic of the dragon names. I guess it's all made up then.

@Galiant: I'm swedish too and I've seen some obscure nordic words, like you, but it doesn't seem to be consistant at all. Like "Vul" being the word for "dark" (Vuljotnaak - Dark maw eat, Vulthuryol - Dark overlord fire)... that doesn't mean anything here, does it?

#8 Posted by Divina_Rex (351 posts) -

@Christoffer said:

The Cyrodiilians have french-ish names

I think they are Italian. Well, the only one I remember is Avennicci.

#9 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@GreenBeret3 said:

@Christoffer said:

The Cyrodiilians have french-ish names

I think they are Italian. Well, the only one I remember is Avennicci.

Then I would say it's a split. Avennicci is obviously Italian, but what about Beatrice, Adrienne, Bernadette. I just looked up some names from Oblivion, I didn't actually remember these.

#10 Posted by Xolare (1273 posts) -

@Christoffer said:

@GreenBeret3 said:

@Christoffer said:

The Cyrodiilians have french-ish names

I think they are Italian. Well, the only one I remember is Avennicci.

Then I would say it's a split. Avennicci is obviously Italian, but what about Beatrice, Adrienne, Bernadette. I just looked up some names from Oblivion, I didn't actually remember these.

The Cyrodiilic names are based off of Roman/Latin.

#11 Posted by Voidoid (110 posts) -

@Christoffer:There seems to some confusion here, unless I'm confused. The names you listed are Breton, right? The Bretons are from High Rock in the northwest. It's the imperials that are from Cyrodiil.

#12 Edited by Divina_Rex (351 posts) -

@Xolare said:

@Christoffer said:

@GreenBeret3 said:

@Christoffer said:

The Cyrodiilians have french-ish names

I think they are Italian. Well, the only one I remember is Avennicci.

Then I would say it's a split. Avennicci is obviously Italian, but what about Beatrice, Adrienne, Bernadette. I just looked up some names from Oblivion, I didn't actually remember these.

The Cyrodiilic names are based off of Roman/Latin.

That's seems right. I was confusing Imperial and Cyrodil when they are the same. I think the Bretons are the French names.

#13 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

You people have no clue what you're talking about, everything is based on Slavic mythology...EVERYTHING!

#14 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@Xolare said:

@Christoffer said:

@GreenBeret3 said:

@Christoffer said:

The Cyrodiilians have french-ish names

I think they are Italian. Well, the only one I remember is Avennicci.

Then I would say it's a split. Avennicci is obviously Italian, but what about Beatrice, Adrienne, Bernadette. I just looked up some names from Oblivion, I didn't actually remember these.

The Cyrodiilic names are based off of Roman/Latin.

Well then I'm an idiot. Imperials ARE from Cyrodiil. I was trying to find an argument for it being a split in modern french/italian and ancient latin names in the Cyrodiil names (like Adrianne, Constance, Pelagius and Darius). But the more I looked the more I discovered that it's all just Roman/Latin.

#15 Posted by Divina_Rex (351 posts) -

@TheDudeOfGaming: Dare I say, prove it?

#16 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@Voidoid said:

@Christoffer:There seems to some confusion here, unless I'm confused. The names you listed are Breton, right? The Bretons are from High Rock in the northwest. It's the imperials that are from Cyrodiil.

Listed where? Do you mean Beatrice, Adrienne and Bernadette?

#17 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

You people have no clue what you're talking about, everything is based on Slavic mythology...EVERYTHING!

But I'm not talking about mythology, I'm talking about the names. And also... @GreenBeret3 said:

@TheDudeOfGaming: Dare I say, prove it?

#18 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -
@Christoffer: Wow, it's difficult conveying sarcasm on the internet, huh?
#19 Edited by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

@Christoffer: Wow, it's difficult conveying sarcasm on the internet, huh?

Yes, written sarcasm is always bad (unless you know the person), people need to learn this. I was picturing you as a nationalistic Ukranian brute. And why wouldn't I, I don't know you.

#20 Edited by gike987 (1747 posts) -

They are all made made out of three words from the dragon language, just like shouts. So according to this page the name would mean:

Mir mul nir = Allegiance Strong Hunt

Nah ag liiv = Fury Burn Wither

Vul jot naak = Dark Maw Eat

Paar thur nax = Ambition Overlord Cruelty

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#21 Edited by sesquipedalophobe (183 posts) -

Italics help with sarcasm, but the best sarcasm is taken seriously. Aside from all that, who honestly cares about the names? They can't speak jive, so it's all jibberjabber to me.

#22 Edited by Voidoid (110 posts) -

@Christoffer said:

@Voidoid said:

@Christoffer:There seems to some confusion here, unless I'm confused. The names you listed are Breton, right? The Bretons are from High Rock in the northwest. It's the imperials that are from Cyrodiil.

Listed where? Do you mean Beatrice, Adrienne and Bernadette?

Yes, I meant to quote but ended up just replying. Seems like you figured it out anyway: Adrienne Berene, Beatrice Gene and Bernadette Peneles are all Bretons. The natives of Cyrodiil (the "Cyrodiilians") are actually the Imperials.

The naming convention for Bretons seems to be western European medieval-sounding names, most of them French, although some have Spanish and Portuguese names, e. g. Vicente Valtieri, that one might easily mistake for Italian.

#23 Posted by BasketSnake (1156 posts) -

I'm in Norway. I stick my head out the window and I'm in Skyrim, I kid you not.

#24 Posted by Christoffer (1757 posts) -

@Voidoid said:

@Christoffer said:

@Voidoid said:

@Christoffer:There seems to some confusion here, unless I'm confused. The names you listed are Breton, right? The Bretons are from High Rock in the northwest. It's the imperials that are from Cyrodiil.

Listed where? Do you mean Beatrice, Adrienne and Bernadette?

Yes, I meant to quote but ended up just replying. Seems like you figured it out anyway: Adrienne Berene, Beatrice Gene and Bernadette Peneles are all Bretons. The natives of Cyrodiil (the "Cyrodiilians") are actually the Imperials.

The naming convention for Bretons seems to be western European medieval-sounding names, most of them French, although some have Spanish and Portuguese names, e. g. Vicente Valtieri, that one might easily mistake for Italian.

Oh, then I was a little confused. I could've swear I looked up imperial names but I guess it was Breton then.

@BasketSnake: Liar. I've been to Norway, and I didn't see backwards flying dragons anywhere.

#25 Posted by BasketSnake (1156 posts) -

@Christoffer: I have a 50% frost resistance bonus since birth and dragons do not dear touch us. We're "enthusiastic warriors" but we're not so different you and I. We too use credit cards when trading in the local market. Read all about it in "Nords Vol 1-5".

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