Picked up Skyrim in the sale this week on steam and seem to be having issues maintaining a solid framerate, I meet the "Ultra" requirements and can run other games like Space Marine without any issue. But when in the first person view on Skyrim it gets incredibly choppy even on Low setting, Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Game » consists of 30 releases. Released Nov 11, 2011
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The fifth installment in Bethesda's Elder Scrolls franchise is set in the eponymous province of Skyrim, where the ancient threat of dragons, led by the sinister Alduin, is rising again to threaten all mortal races. Only the player, as the prophesied hero the Dovahkiin, can save the world from destruction.
PC Performance Issues.
How choppy, and where at? The game can hover around 18fps for me in some places, looking in certain directions (at the top of the steps in Markarth for example). Does this happen in third person?
What video card do you have? If Nvidia, Ambient Occlusion might be turned on, which can eat frames.
@wewantsthering: To the best of my knowledge yes, to be frank this is my first gaming PC so i'm a bit of an idiot when it comes to these things. I just went to AMD's site and downloaded the Control center it said i needed. Like i said stuff like Space Marine runs like a dream at the highest settings though.
@Wampa1 said:
@MrKlorox: I have an AMD, It's choppy no matter where i am just when ever i look around, which totally dissapears in 3rd person, which is the part thats confusing me.
You need to be more specific. The brand doesn't help.
Go to the start button, and in the empty search box, type 'dxdiag' (minus the quotation marks). Copy the main body of info on the first page, and then click the next panel to find you graphics card info and post it all here.
Time of this report: 2/9/2012, 23:25:56
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Advent
System Model: DT1410
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/22/11 14:34:16 Ver: 04.06.04
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6126MB RAM
Page File: 2675MB used, 9574MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode
Card Info.
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x68BA)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68BA&SUBSYS_03FE1043&REV_00
Display Memory: 3819 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1012 MB
Shared Memory: 2806 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: LG TV
Monitor Id: GSM0001
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1114 (English)
Driver Version: 8.930.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/6/2011 03:16:00, 933888 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
That system shouldn't be having performance issues in this game. What resolution do you run this game in?
@SeriouslyNow: Looks to be 1920x1080 by his monitor's native resolution.
This machine should have no issues running Skyrim on High at 1080p.
@Wampa1: Don't run your shadows on ultra. Try dropping them to high or medium. They're not rendered by the GPU for some stupid reason, so the performance hit is crazy. There are newer drivers for your card, but I'm running older ones than you are with no issues. Since you're using an AMD card Steam can update them for you. Go to Steam, then chose Update AMD Video Drivers. But, I'd try this first:
Right click on your desktop, open the catalyst control center. Go to gaming. then 3d application settings. Put everything on Use Application Settings. Set your anti-aliasing mode to multi-sample AA, or performance.
My only other thought is that since Skyrim relies heavily on CPU over GPU, you're having some sort of thermal issue and the CPU is clocking itself down. So, a slow CPU will hurt your frame rate, no matter what your graphic settings are at. If the step above doesn't fix your performance issues, you'll need to get your hands a lil dirty. PC Gaming, it'll accidentally learn ya somethin!
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
CPU-Z. Very useful if you're overclocking, but just very useful in general. This will show you what your processor speed is currently running at. Your Core i5 will throttle itself depending on how much processing its doing. If the processor gets hot, it'll lower its clock speed drastically. Fire up CPU-Z and after a few seconds, it'll start reading off your CPU voltage and speed.
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
Prime 95. You can use this as a stress test. It'll work every one of your CPU cores to 100% causing them to throttle to their max speed and generate a lot of heat.
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
Speedfan. Also useful if you're overclocking, but it has many other uses as well. It takes readings from various sensors on your computer, including your hard drive's SMART and thermal temperatures. I'm not sure where the i5 starts to throttle itself down to protect itself from heat, but if your CPU core's are above 75 degrees celsius, I'd consider that a cause for concern.
Fire up SpeedFan, then fire up CPU-Z, then fire up Prime 95 and do a torture test. If that processor temperature jumps up incredibly fast past 75 degrees C, I'd say you're having thermal issues. Also, if it hits that temperature, check CPU-Z and see if the CPU's speed has dropped. If so, this is why Skyrim runs dog slow.
If Advent used the stock Intel heatsink, the little pins that hold the heat sink may have come loose in shipping. I found the intel heatsink retention mechanism to be the worst thing I've had the joy of trying to use since the original Athlon days with the clips that required -so- much force that people's arms would shake from the strain, heh.
@Zelyre: Wow that's a few ideas to get me started at least, like I said totally new to this but i'll give everything a try just forgive me if i'm back asking "durr what dah GPU do?" in a few hours! I tried dropping the shadows and using catalyst but it didnt seem to have any effect.
@SeriouslyNow: Running at 1920x1080, tried dropping it low but it didn't make a difference.
Should also note it's constantly hitching when running, talking or fighting at this point.
@Wampa1: My frame rate usually gets noticeably choppy in Whiterun. Try reducing the distant object detail and the fade distances in the View Distance settings, after some tweaking I managed to remove the choppiness in Whiterun by very slightly giving up the level of detail for distant objects, which I rarely pay attention to anyway.
That sounds like something else is heavily taxing your CPU.@Zelyre: Wow that's a few ideas to get me started at least, like I said totally new to this but i'll give everything a try just forgive me if i'm back asking "durr what dah GPU do?" in a few hours! I tried dropping the shadows and using catalyst but it didnt seem to have any effect.
@SeriouslyNow: Running at 1920x1080, tried dropping it low but it didn't make a difference.
Should also note it's constantly hitching when running, talking or fighting at this point.
What about Antivirus software? Windows Updates? Running any network shares?@SeriouslyNow: Any idea what it could be? I'm not running anything but Steam and the game when I'm playing.
Is the game constantly lagging and twitching for you? If so, I have the same exact problem, and my rig is pretty good with running Skyrim smoothly before the 1.4 patch.
How do you mean 'turn everything off'? I want you to tell me what Antivirus software you have etc.@Tru3_Blu3: Yeah, I've considered reinstalling it, is there anyway to remove the patches on steam?
@SeriouslyNow: Nope just Steam, made sure to turn everything else off just incase.
Avast has been known to slow down computers when it does background 'idle' scans. Believe it or but Skyrim (without the HD texture pack) doesn't actually tax your machine that hard (it uses two cores of a quad core CPU for example) and that might make make Avast think there's idle time to scan. The issue comes from the fact that HDD access is often a lot more system intensive than rendering a scene in Skyrim and it can cause the computer to halt as Skyrim is left waiting for Avast to finish accessing the disc as Skyrim wants to stream level data (map information, quest information objects, characters, textures and sounds) from the disc at the same time. Is HDD light constantly flashing?@SeriouslyNow: Sorry like i said new to it, running Avast free.
The 1.4 beta update gave me a much more solid framerate but also introduced what I think you are experiencing: Micro stuttering.
I can stop the micro stutters by turning off vsync and triple buffering, but then I get crazy amounts of screen tearing :(
@CannonGoose: Looked up some videos of micro stuttering and that looks like my issue. It's like a small but constant jerk to everything. Would removing the patches help?
@SeriouslyNow: The HDD isn't constantly flashing, but should I try turning Avast off and running the game incase it isn't the micro stuttering issue? Again thanks for the help and patience.
I'd recommend uninstalling it completely and using MS Security Essentials instead. It's a lot more efficient and won't intrude on your gaming.@mustachioeugene: Got it running on that mode already, just seems to turn off notifications during gameplay.
I would try setting shadows to low and enabling FXAA as FXAA is much less a strain on the system and the results are pretty are pretty similar and unless your a huge videophile you won't notice the difference. Beyond that you might want to try Skyboost if they did indeed update it to go with the 1.4 patch.
You could also just simply toy with it and start on absolute mininum settings gradually turning things up until you deduct where your PC is struggling with it.
Then it's your GPU. Look up bordless windowed mode mod for Skyrim. Get it. Enjoy :)Just tried running it in windowed mode and it ran without issue..
At that res ANY game should run smooth on your machine. Try it Windowed at full res.@SeriouslyNow: Well it ran smooth windowed at 800 X 450. I'll try it with the mod though!
Thanks to everyone who replied really appreciate people giving advice!
This might sound stupid, but I read that apparently having the "360 Controller" box checked in the options menu eats frames somehow if you're using mouse and keyboard.
@SeriouslyNow: Back to stuttering when i do that. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2536437 Other users seem to be having a similar issue i'd like to try it pre-patch but there doesnt seem to be a way to do that on steam.
@Wampa1: Are you running two GPUs in crossfire? That may be the cause of your microstutter. Try disabling one.
@Wampa1: Somewhere in your GPUs control panel probably under "Crossfire" it should let you disable it, that is, if you're running multiple GPUs (at least it should, I haven't used an ATi card since the AGP days.) If you're really not sure you're running multiple GPUs (I'm assuming you bought a pre-built?) then you can manually open up your case and check or just check the back of the computer case, your card should only take up two slots (minus any expansion cards like sound, eSata, USB, what have you,) so if you have four taken up that should mean you're using two cards. I don't remember if DxDiag lists if you have two cards or not.
You can also try the latest beta drivers.
@Wampa1 said:
Also noticed textures now pop in and out while i'm playing, sorry if i keep bringing back a dead topic just driving me crazy.
I would wipe the drivers and reinstall the latest ones. If you install new drivers when old ones haven't been removed correctly, it can result in several issues. This could be one of them.
Follow these steps:
- Download Driver Sweeperand install.
- From the Windows control Panel, uninstall the Catalyst Control Center and all related AMD video drivers.
- Once it is done, you'll be asked to restart the computer. Do so, but instead of going into Windows normally, log on to Safe Mode (F8 before the Windows logo appears).
- While in Safe Mode, start Driver Sweeper. Check "ATI - Display" and then click the Analyze button. You'll see a long list of files and registry entries. You should then click Clean.
- Once it's done, restart and boot back normally into Windows.
- Install new drivers (Do not allow Windows to install its own, download the latest driver here).
It might seem like a lot to do, but it barely takes 5 minutes and if you get used to doing this every time you want to install a new set of drivers, you'll save yourself quite a few headaches in the future. I don't guarantee that this will actually solve your problems, but it's certainly worth a shot considering nothing else seems to have solved it so far. At the very least, you'd be able to rule out driver conflicts.
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