So, are people still opposed to a multiplayer Elder Scrolls?

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#1 Edited by FreakAche (2955 posts) -

This is something I was thinking about recently. I used to groan at the idea, whenever I saw it suggested in forums. The massive open world experience of Elder Scrolls just never seemed to lend itself well to multiplayer in my mind. However, in a world where Borderlands exists, and is quite awesome as a multiplayer game, I am willing to reconsider my opinion on this subject. I`m not saying it would have to be a numbered entry in the main series, I just think it could be interesting to have some sort of multiplayer game in the Elder Scrolls series. Does anyone else want to see this? What gameplay mechanics would they have to change to make it work?

#2 Posted by bioblood22 (420 posts) -

No, there are enough new online games, stop taking all the great series and trying to turn them into MMO junk. (Not saying you FreakAche) just those in general who want every and all games turned into online options. 

#3 Posted by SaturdayNightSpecials (2425 posts) -

If they're going to do it, it should be a numbered game, and it should be a drop-in/drop-out co-op component similar to Fable (only good).

I'm not interested in playing ES with my bros, but it's an interesting concept.

#4 Posted by BaneFireLord (2967 posts) -

/slap 
Stop saying such ridiculous nonsense and come to your senses, man!

#5 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5853 posts) -

It wouldn't bother me as long as it didn't affect the single player.

#6 Posted by Spoonman671 (4744 posts) -

Nope.  Maybe a crafting system that incorporates an online marketplace similar to what Forza does with paintjobs, but I don't want to play Elder Scrolls with other people.  There are plenty of other games for that.

#7 Posted by Dawglet (312 posts) -

FIRMLY OPPOSED. 

#8 Posted by Beforet (2931 posts) -

You know, if they could make it work, then an Elder Scrolls style MMO could probably be amazing.

Though maybe MMO wouldn't be the way to go. The game worlds, as large as they are, wouldn't be enough to hold hundreds of people without getting crowded. So maybe servers for 20-50 players? I don't know; like I said it's all if they could get it to work.

#9 Posted by Badhands (399 posts) -

Keep your multiplayer the fuck out of my Elder scrolls, if you did add it in any way at all MAYBE like an arena or something (like oblivion's just pvp). That's it though.

#10 Posted by Zippedbinders (1030 posts) -

Borderlands works as a multiplayer game because its fundamentally Diablo: The FPS. The way that ES is set up doesn't lend itself well to co-op, there are rarely groups of enemies that would require a group to take on, or properly built gameplay environments. If its an MMO that would tickle one's fancy, what attachment does the ES series offer? Its not like the lore is super fabulous, you could go to one of the other generic fantasy MMOs available. I'm not against the idea of a ES experience, but why would anyone want it?

#11 Posted by TotalEklypse (1000 posts) -

I say the same thing about fallout. It wouldn't effect the single player, like all the wussies claim. Drop in drop out at least 2 player would be fine.  
It'll happen with the next one I bet. Be it Fallout or ES they will take the plunge finally. Regardless if the loner single player people cry and pull out their hair, a hell of a lot more people like to play games with people.

#12 Posted by Twitchey (865 posts) -

As Badhands said, an arena would be pretty cool.  You could spectate fights and bet. No dragon shouts though. 
You could arrange fights for a certain time, or just join someone wanting to fight. To prevent boosting the fights should be random and you can not communicate with the other fighter until after the fight, no mics or chat rooms.

#13 Posted by Sumbog (495 posts) -

I dont enjoy playing games with other people, they bother me.

#14 Posted by Red (5994 posts) -
While I'm all for a good co-op RPG, I just can't see it working with the Elder Scrolls series, as the missions are less based on loot and killing as they are story and objectives.
#15 Posted by natetodamax (19216 posts) -

I'm happy with the Elder Scrolls series staying single player. Multiplayer doesn't need to be in everything.

#16 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

Open world jank AND multiplayer jank?

#17 Posted by Beforet (2931 posts) -

You know, it wouldn't even need to have co-op multiplayer. The quests don't exactly lend themselves to group assignments. I'm just thinking about randomly running into a guy in the woods or a dungeon doing his own thing. Kind of like Journey, I guess. Only with 80% more griefing.

It would also be nice to show off the badass character you made without needing to post a screenshot on Tesnexus.

#18 Posted by Skald (4369 posts) -

No. That'd probably be pretty cool.

#19 Posted by Soapy86 (2638 posts) -

 It would be great to play with friends in an Elder Scrolls game. Pillaging towns, going on adventures and shit. I'm all for it. 

#20 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -
@FreakAche said:
This is something I was thinking about recently. I used to groan at the idea, whenever I saw it suggested in forums. The massive open world experience of Elder Scrolls just never seemed to lend itself well to multiplayer in my mind. However, in a world where Borderlands exists, and is quite awesome as a multiplayer game, I am willing to reconsider my opinion on this subject. I`m not saying it would have to be a numbered entry in the main series, I just think it could be interesting to have some sort of multiplayer game in the Elder Scrolls series. Does anyone else want to see this? What gameplay mechanics would they have to change to make it work?
Well Borderlands is a completely different game than any Elder Scrolls game. And the RPG part in it isn't even close to what Elder Scrolls does. Borderlands shares a lot more with DIablo.
 
No, because Elder Scrolls are always centered around you as the sole player. They'd have to change the mechanics. Even then what exactly is so enticing about Elder Scrolls that would translate well into multiplayer? The combat is terrible, and it looks like it's just going to be serviceable....maybe even okay. PvP would be weird and bad, co-op would lack that punch and I doubt they could make something meaningful.
 
I'd be all for a Mercenary Company DLC or a mod in Skyrim where you can team up with people on certain missions though. That would be amazing and really well done I think. I don't think I'd enjoy a game from The Elder Scrolls based solely or built for multiplayer though. The things that make mutiplayer good are the exact opposite of what I like about Elder Scrolls and what they do well.
 
Just play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls, Borderlands, or Diablo 3.
#21 Posted by Quacktastic (1066 posts) -

When they can ship a single player game without a truck-load of bugs -- then they can add a multiplayer aspect.  They can't though, because of the scope of the games they make.  So if they were to add MP it would either break the game further or they would have to reduce scope.  Both of those options are way worse than the payoff.

#22 Posted by Kyreo (4600 posts) -

@nintendoeats said:

Open world jank AND multiplayer jank?

Sounds like a great time to me.

#23 Posted by Pezen (1652 posts) -

I've always wanted a very simple drop-in multiplayer sort of like how it's handled in Saint's Row. Basically both players are playing their own story but within the same game. I don't think it would ruin the game in any capacity really.

#24 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -
@Quacktastic said:
When they can ship a single player game without a truck-load of bugs -- then they can add a multiplayer aspect.  They can't though, because of the scope of the games they make.  So if they were to add MP it would either break the game further or they would have to reduce scope.  Both of those options are way worse than the payoff.
Even if they did either of those they would also be missing a huge portion of time to fix the bugs that were already in the single-player. Let alone adding bugs from the MP inclusion.
 
It would be a fucking nightmare of exponentially compounded bugs.
#25 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Isn't there a multiplayer Oblivion mod?

#26 Posted by MistaSparkle (2148 posts) -

The only sort of multiplayer I would be okay with is co op and even that is pushing it...

#27 Posted by TheChaos (1158 posts) -
@Dawglet said:
FIRMLY OPPOSED. 
#28 Posted by Vinny_Says (5721 posts) -

Those games I enjoy the feeling of solitude, especially in Skyrim where I'll need to hike giant mountains to reach distant dungeons. That's something I want to do alone in a dark room. It would be cool if they had optional survival stuff ala Fallout New Vegas.

#29 Posted by StingingVelvet (571 posts) -

I'm still quite opposed, yes. Co-op inherently changes the game, makes massive design changes. You mention Borderlands but think about that game... little story, bland missions, more about loot than exploration. That is not what I want from TES.

#30 Edited by emem (1971 posts) -

No, with one exception: I would like to be able to interact with people in cities, like.. put an auction house in there or something, but let the gameplay part still be singleplayer. I can see it being fun to travel to cities full of people who share stories and fight in arenas.. that would be great.

Edit: I love the way it is realised in Demon's Souls, that would also be fantastic.. without invasions though.

#31 Posted by coakroach (2492 posts) -

Sounds great if it was just put in to let you fuck around and break the game. 

#32 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -

Leave singleplayer games alone!!

#33 Posted by jetsetwillie (857 posts) -

id like to see a multiplayer in skyrim for 2 reasons. 
 
first, ANYTHING that upsets or annoys the so call hardcore that thinks gaming belongs to them is great imo.  
 
and second i think playing it coop with my buddy would be great. 

#34 Posted by MeierTheRed (4941 posts) -

I wan't none of that multiplayer filth in my Elder Scroll.

#35 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -
@FreakAche: The fuck are you doing man, don't even think that. Elder Scrolls has always been a single player game, and anyone who's thinking of buying it knows this.
#36 Posted by Hobbies (976 posts) -

No, I do not want multiplayer in my Elder Scrolls. 
 
I don't know why there's such an obsession with adding multiplayer to everything nowadays. Some games are meant to be single player.

#37 Posted by Hizang (8532 posts) -

There is no need for multiplayer in Skyrim, I hate when games like this get multiplayer when they clearly don't need it.

#38 Posted by ProfessorEss (7465 posts) -

I like the feeling of solitude in these games but whatever, I'd be up for trying co-op. It'd be especially nice if it was the type of co-op where you could go off and do whatever you want and only come together when you need to. 
 
No one's played Skyrim, so I don't know anyone who can definitively say it would ruin anything. 

#39 Posted by H4xlike (39 posts) -
@Zippedbinders said:
Borderlands works as a multiplayer game because its fundamentally Diablo: The FPS. The way that ES is set up doesn't lend itself well to co-op, there are rarely groups of enemies that would require a group to take on, or properly built gameplay environments. If its an MMO that would tickle one's fancy, what attachment does the ES series offer? Its not like the lore is super fabulous, you could go to one of the other generic fantasy MMOs available. I'm not against the idea of a ES experience, but why would anyone want it?
That could be easily fixed by Bethesda.  They could just increase the number of enemies or difficulty of enemies when you're playing co-op.  However, it would feel tacked on and not worth playing since, like you said, the gameplay isn't designed to have 2 players fighting together. 
#40 Posted by Marz (5666 posts) -

Once they make a single player game out of all the provinces in the game, there's still like 4 of them left.   Then i wouldn't be opposed to some sort of MMO because by then it'll be like 2020.

#41 Posted by TanoPrime (180 posts) -

Opposed.  Because if you roll and take my epic awesome axe of bang your mom with its +5 stats to my mantosterone...a nerdrage so righteous and fierce shall fall upon thine head that the gods themselves shall look down upon your decimated form and say......"damn."
#42 Posted by Underachiever007 (2468 posts) -

No, I hate playing games with other people. Fighting games excepted, of course.

#43 Posted by MaFoLu (1859 posts) -

How about Demon's Souls-style "indirect" multiplayer?

Leaving messages or maybe have some kind of marketplace where you can buy and sell stuff to other people.

Maybe even have some sidequests which change depending on other peoples games, in some way.

#44 Posted by emem (1971 posts) -

@MaFoLu: Oh wow, you almost copied what I wrote. ;)

#45 Posted by MaFoLu (1859 posts) -

@emem: Hah, great minds think alike?

#46 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1467 posts) -

I think their sole purpose is total immersion for the player, and turning the game into and MMO would kill it.

#47 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -

PvP arena.

#48 Posted by Evilsbane (4693 posts) -

No, as much as I want a New MMO that is good, No, leave my Elder Scrolls alone, games like this are supposed to be played in the dark ALONE while you suddenly realize you've been in this dark room with no food or bathroom breaks for weeks.

#49 Posted by TheFalconProduction (51 posts) -

I'm pretty sure this is strongly opposed by both most of the players and people at Bethesda Studios. But it would be a neat thing, you can have another person or even multiple people to free-play or explore dungeons and kill dragons and what not. It would be neat if that was added because I know alot of people who are interested in Elder Scrolls, so playing with them in this game would be fun, instead of hooking up multiple tv's and playing side by side.  
 
I think it would be alot like Fable 2 and 3's multiplayer, but it wouldnt be garbage. I'm not totally opposed to this, but I dont think Skyrim would be as fun if multiplayer support was added.
#50 Posted by sreya92 (193 posts) -
@FreakAche: Honestly I'd rather not see Elder Scrolls go the route of multiplayer. Enough series have done already done it and it almost always has turned out for the worst. Take Deadspace 2, the campaign is supposedly shorter and not as fun while at the same time the multiplayer isn't all that great nor will it be self sustainable for more than a year. On the other hand, were ES to stay single player (as it will),  it would deliver an even more enthralling game experience since--regardless of what PR reps say--multiplayer integration does take resources away from the crafting of the single player "campaign."

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