The Elder Scrolls

Posted by Stefan (520 posts) -

After playing about 40 hours of Bloodmoon, Tribunal and Oblivion this week, I was searching for more info about the next Elder Scrolls game. What I have found is a bunch of really bad youtube videos which claim to have content of the next game in them. Looks like they are all fake.  

However what I found out was that there is a new Bethesda podcast: http://bethblog.com/podcast/ 
They are talking about New Vegas and Rage but also hint towards a new game which they don't want to show yet. I am pretty sure that they are talking about the next Elder Scolls game since Todd Howard says that they've been working on the title since they finished Fallout 3 and that people would be excited about it. 
That's about all the info I got from the web but I will keep following the podcast and eventually they will announce the game I guess.  

As for everyone else who can't wait for the game you can still pick up the old game - like I did. I was amazed by how great Oblivion still looks after it's been five years since its release. Though I prefer the mechanics of Morrowind  I still liked the dynamic schedules every character in the game had and also that the game had complete voice acting in every conversation. I think it looked kind of strange when everyone just stood still or walked in the same circle over and over again in the earlier games.  
 
Maybe I will pick up Daggerfall once I have some more time to spare, I'd really like to get back to the Elder Scrolls' roots. Arena might be a little too old for me. And as for the other games I heard that they are all pretty bad. I even own Shadowkey for the N-Gage but still never played it.

#1 Posted by Stefan (520 posts) -

After playing about 40 hours of Bloodmoon, Tribunal and Oblivion this week, I was searching for more info about the next Elder Scrolls game. What I have found is a bunch of really bad youtube videos which claim to have content of the next game in them. Looks like they are all fake.  

However what I found out was that there is a new Bethesda podcast: http://bethblog.com/podcast/ 
They are talking about New Vegas and Rage but also hint towards a new game which they don't want to show yet. I am pretty sure that they are talking about the next Elder Scolls game since Todd Howard says that they've been working on the title since they finished Fallout 3 and that people would be excited about it. 
That's about all the info I got from the web but I will keep following the podcast and eventually they will announce the game I guess.  

As for everyone else who can't wait for the game you can still pick up the old game - like I did. I was amazed by how great Oblivion still looks after it's been five years since its release. Though I prefer the mechanics of Morrowind  I still liked the dynamic schedules every character in the game had and also that the game had complete voice acting in every conversation. I think it looked kind of strange when everyone just stood still or walked in the same circle over and over again in the earlier games.  
 
Maybe I will pick up Daggerfall once I have some more time to spare, I'd really like to get back to the Elder Scrolls' roots. Arena might be a little too old for me. And as for the other games I heard that they are all pretty bad. I even own Shadowkey for the N-Gage but still never played it.

#2 Posted by RichardLOlson (1852 posts) -

I'm hoping for a new Elder Scrolls, I enjoyed Morrowind and Oblivion a lot.  Honestly Bethesda really knows how to put you into the game for several hours, like you've just stepped into your television and into a whole new world.  I'm excited about New Vegas and Rage also, excited to see how those turn out and what they have to bring to the table.

#3 Edited by Stefan (520 posts) -
@RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE. 
 
edit: have you checked out the podcast?
#4 Posted by mylifeforAiur (3489 posts) -

Love me some Elder Scrolls. Morrowind is one of my all time favourites. Like you, I'm incredibly excited for the next game in the series ;)

#5 Posted by c1337us (5751 posts) -

I have professed my desire for a new elder scrolls many times already. I will continue to wait in hope.

#6 Posted by InfamousBIG (3227 posts) -

Did you see the George Bush Elder Scrolls 5 video, or the Hitler one?  (I've obviously done this search several times myself). 
  

    
#7 Posted by armaan8014 (5452 posts) -
@InfamousBIG said:

" Did you see the George Bush Elder Scrolls 5 video, or the Hitler one?  (I've obviously done this search several times myself). 
  

    
"
DAMN! Was gonna post the same thing!
#8 Posted by TheHBK (5563 posts) -

There is no way they are not working on a new Elder Scrolls, but this thing probably wont be out until the new consoles are out.

#9 Posted by gabha (357 posts) -
@Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version? 
 
Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then.
#10 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -
@TheHBK said:
"

There is no way they are not working on a new Elder Scrolls, but this thing probably wont be out until the new consoles are out.

"
Actually Besthesda's next game (whether that's a new Elder Scrolls game or not is up for debate (though I think that's what they're working on)) is being made for the current generation.
#11 Posted by Irishjohn (581 posts) -
@gabha said:
" @Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version?   Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then. "
Ouch. That sucks man.
#12 Posted by Feanor (1391 posts) -
@TheHBK: idk about that. They said that they started working on the game after fallout 3. How would they be able to make a next gen game when there is no word on what the next gen consoles are going to be like?
#13 Posted by TheHBK (5563 posts) -
@Feanor:
I don't know but you could say the same thing about when development started on ESIV back in 2002.  I am sure they didn't know what hardware the xbox 360 would have and much less the PS3.  Somehow they are able to get launch titles out there right, so you may only need an idea of the hardware up to a year before release.  And with the next xbox it shouldn't be hard to imagine it would be using something like DX11 so that helps.  Hardware guys keep the software guys in the know so that they can bust out launch titles. 
The drawback about having it on this gen is the game would not look much better than oblivion unless Rage does some amazing stuff.
#14 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) -
@gabha said:
" @Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version?   Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then. "
which glitch, the ps3 one has a glitch that make vampire cure not work
#15 Posted by gabha (357 posts) -
@kashif1: @kashif1 said:
" @gabha said:
" @Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version?   Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then. "
which glitch, the ps3 one has a glitch that make vampire cure not work "
After a certain amount of playtime on a single save (it varies on the 360 and PC) some special effects stop animating, wouldn't hurt that much except for an endgame door that won't open because of that. I've seen it it referred to as the Megaton glitch in some Elder Scrolls forum.
#16 Posted by Doctorchimp (4055 posts) -

I heard that the new Elder Scrolls was gonna be an MMO.

#17 Posted by Jimbo (9998 posts) -

They're working on Brink as well don't forget.  Maybe once Vegas and Brink are out of the way they'll start talking about Elder Scrolls... hopefully.  They can't not be working on one.

#18 Posted by Death_Unicorn (2838 posts) -

I will rip my head off if I don't get The Elder Scrolls soon.

#19 Posted by Arkkazeal (110 posts) -

I'm mostly curious as to where the next Elder Scrolls game will take place, I've heard some speculation that they might go with Summerset Isle or Skyrim. I don't care much for Altmer so I'm gonna hope Skyrim or maybe even Black Marsh (yay Argonians). Where would you guys want the next game to take place?

#20 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

oblivion is my favorite game i cant wait for five

#21 Posted by Stefan (520 posts) -
@Feanor said:
" @TheHBK: idk about that. They said that they started working on the game after fallout 3. How would they be able to make a next gen game when there is no word on what the next gen consoles are going to be like? "

I think you are right, if memory serves me right Todd Howard said in an interview after they shipped Fallout 3 that they would be 'developing addons for the game over the next few months and that they would start developing the next obvious game' or something like that following the completion of those addons. I probably read this on GameSpot, but I am too lazy to search for it, too much advertising going on on this site.
 
@Soapy86 said:
" @TheHBK said:
"

There is no way they are not working on a new Elder Scrolls, but this thing probably wont be out until the new consoles are out.

"
Actually Besthesda's next game (whether that's a new Elder Scrolls game or not is up for debate (though I think that's what they're working on)) is being made for the current generation. " 
 
Source please, I would really like to see where you got this from (not that I doubt you... well maybe a little :-D) 

@Arkkazeal said:
"I'm mostly curious as to where the next Elder Scrolls game will take place, I've heard some speculation that they might go with Summerset Isle or Skyrim. I don't care much for Altmer so I'm gonna hope Skyrim or maybe even Black Marsh (yay Argonians). Where would you guys want the next game to take place? "

I think you should actually make a poll or a forum post out of this, more opinions might be popping up that way. As for myself I am not too sure. Morrowind looked pretty rough with it's ashland and sheogorath region in comparison to Oblivion's beautiful landscapes for example but I loved both styles. 
#22 Posted by pcguy2 (74 posts) -

LOL

#23 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -
@Stefan said:

 
@Soapy86 said:
" @TheHBK said:
"

There is no way they are not working on a new Elder Scrolls, but this thing probably wont be out until the new consoles are out.

"
Actually Besthesda's next game (whether that's a new Elder Scrolls game or not is up for debate (though I think that's what they're working on)) is being made for the current generation. " 
 
Source please, I would really like to see where you got this from (not that I doubt you... well maybe a little :-D) 


Source
#24 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -
@Jimbo said:
" They're working on Brink as well don't forget.  Maybe once Vegas and Brink are out of the way they'll start talking about Elder Scrolls... hopefully.  They can't not be working on one. "
Bethesda is not working on Brink or Fallout: New Vegas, only publishing.
#25 Posted by DaManGB (377 posts) -
@Death_Unicorn said:
" I will rip my head off if I don't get The Elder Scrolls soon. "
Ditto.
#26 Posted by ArbitraryWater (12123 posts) -
@Stefan: If you want some hilarity, you should really at least give Daggerfall a try. Sure, even with most of the game-breaking bugs gone, it still manages to be, by far, the jankiest game I have ever played. Ever. Sure, as a game it's aged poorly (the procedurally generated dungeons are too big. Really. Far, far, far far far far too big), but as a history lesson (i.e. what RPGs were in 1996), it's an interesting one. 
 
Arena on the other hand... is just kind of boring in comparison. If you want the real roots of the genre, check out the Ultima Underworld games. They actually manage a competence that is surprising for 18 year old games.
#27 Posted by BraveToaster (12588 posts) -

Elder Scrolls 5 will be epic.

#28 Posted by TheDukeofArgyll (100 posts) -

If you are waiting for an new Elder Scrolls and haven't tried Fallout, you really should give it a try.  Its not a replacement for Elder Scrolls, but it hits on some of the same things that makes it so great.  Personally I enjoyed Fallout more, but, I my be in the minority on that.

#29 Posted by Artikay (113 posts) -
@Arkkazeal said:
"I'm mostly curious as to where the next Elder Scrolls game will take place, I've heard some speculation that they might go with Summerset Isle or Skyrim. I don't care much for Altmer so I'm gonna hope Skyrim or maybe even Black Marsh (yay Argonians). Where would you guys want the next game to take place? "


Some time ago I remember an article where bethesda copyrighted Elder Scrolls: Skyrim

 
I want Skyrim myself, I always made a Nord Berserker in the ES games so it'd be cool.

#30 Posted by vidiot (2737 posts) -
@Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Dude, are you talking about Bethesda? The guys that made the PC version of that buggy game I loved on the 360, that took me like, two freaking weeks of non-stop research to just get it playable on a PC that was well-over the system requirements? That game that apparently modders know more about the game's engine, than the own developers?
 
Hey, remember that DLC for Fallout 3 that launched, worked, and didn't need a patch? 
 
I have thoroughly enjoyed Bethesda games, both S-Ranks in Fallout 3 and Oblivion and I'm hoping to get another S-Rank in Fallout 3 PC (NO CHEATING!)
But there's "relatively bug free", then there's "buggy" and then there's, as one individual tried to calm my frustrations of getting Fallout 3 to work with a current PC: "The Bethesda charm." 
 
I don't like "The Bethesda Charm".  :P
If I'm going to be a game tester, and spend a considerable amount of time getting this thing just to run correctly, like so many people have had to do: Then I want to be paid.
#31 Posted by Stefan (520 posts) -

@vidiot Morrowind and Oblivion worked pretty well on Xbox and Morrowind worked also adequatly on PC when it was launched, consider its size. Fallout 3 didn't crash on my PC but I only picked it up a couple of weeks after its original release. I can't say much about Oblivion's PC launch since I only picked up the GotY edition recently on Steam. i have to admit that there were bugs in all those games but when I think of crazy buggy I am thinking about RPGs like Gothic 3 or the majority of MMOs.

#32 Posted by President_Barackbar (3474 posts) -
@gabha said:
" @kashif1: @kashif1 said:
" @gabha said:
" @Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version?   Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then. "
which glitch, the ps3 one has a glitch that make vampire cure not work "
After a certain amount of playtime on a single save (it varies on the 360 and PC) some special effects stop animating, wouldn't hurt that much except for an endgame door that won't open because of that. I've seen it it referred to as the Megaton glitch in some Elder Scrolls forum. "
That was a specific Reference ID bug that came with Shivering Isles that was patched out within a week of its discovery.
#33 Posted by gabha (357 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" @gabha said:
" @kashif1: @kashif1 said:
" @gabha said:
" @Stefan said:
" @RichardLOlson: plus their games come relatively bug free. Sure, there are some glitches on release day but nothing serious considering that the games are HUGE.  edit: have you checked out the podcast? "
Did you know that there's a glitch that makes to impossible to finish Oblivion once you've spent 400+ hours on the 360 version?   Neither did I until it hit me. Wasn't even halfway into the main quest and guilds then. "
which glitch, the ps3 one has a glitch that make vampire cure not work "
After a certain amount of playtime on a single save (it varies on the 360 and PC) some special effects stop animating, wouldn't hurt that much except for an endgame door that won't open because of that. I've seen it it referred to as the Megaton glitch in some Elder Scrolls forum. "
That was a specific Reference ID bug that came with Shivering Isles that was patched out within a week of its discovery. "
No it's a different bug, the details of which can be found here. I remember reading somewhere that they would have to remake the game from the ground up to have it fixed.
#34 Posted by Feanor (1391 posts) -
@vidiot: Hmm, I've never had a problem with a Bethesda game on PC> 
 
@Artikay: I think Skyrim is the obvious choice for them. I'm hoping for it. It would defiantly beat Cyrodiil, it was so boring compared to Morrowind.
#35 Posted by Kaiseus (3 posts) -

I thought beating ES was an achievement.  Never finished Oblivion but was a great game from what I played.

#36 Posted by Feanor (1391 posts) -
@Kaiseus: No more an achievement than any other game. 
#37 Edited by vidiot (2737 posts) -
@Feanor said:

" @vidiot: Hmm, I've never had a problem with a Bethesda game on PC> 
 

That's great?  
Other people on the other hand are another issue.
Including other GiantBomb members. 
And myself.
 
Like I said, I spent about almost a week researching the crap out of this. 
The problems are not isolated, they are pretty widespread to users who pretty much have anything more than a dual core computer, and windows XP. Fallout 3 flat-out not compatible with 64-bit processors, you need to manually edit your .ini file. Essentially tell the game to properly use your processor, and then also force lock the FPS.
 
Even after that there are cases, including myself, that you will still run into problems. Micro-stuttering is the main complaint, you can alleviate (I can't say fix because I still see it sometimes) such issues by applying multiple user-made fixes. When I say multiple, I mean multiple, the amount of troubleshooting fixes for this thing are mind-blowing. After applying multiple fixes, I began experiencing hard crashes. 
 
I was able to fix....no...make the game playable, after I uninstalled the entire thing and reinstalled the entire thing, including a plethora of codecs that apparently the game didn't like either, (It has incompatibility issues with FFDShow too O_O ) then began applying the fixes making sure I remembered each one I used.  
 
I still experience the occasional crash to desktop. I have to manually save each time I enter a new area, because apparently the game likes to crash with auto-save.
 
Trust me. This game is a mess for pretty much anything aside from what it was made for, and needs some desperate support. People can jump up and down and proclaim that the game wasn't tested for new hardware, -insert any game made in the past five years here- sure as hell wasn't tested for my system specs, and it runs fine. I literally had quite possibly the worst time ever getting it to work, and even considered quite realistically to throw in the towel. The last time it took that long to get a game to run correctly was Half-Life 2 when it was first released, and for that reason I had simply an inadequate machine. Now I have 9 Gigs Ram, i7Quad core, GForce GTX 285. There is no reason for me to have had to go through any of that, period. I fear for the compatibility for the game on future PC set-ups, it's a great game that deserves more.

I'm hoping the recent merger with Id will give them some much needed technical experience, because from where I'm standing this thing is held together with duct tape. 
 
(Note: I've heard Oblivion PC has similar issues. For many users who experienced slow-down occasionally, Oblivion for 360 required you to manually clear out your cache overtime. For Fallout 3 360 I had several errors, one essentially killed a quest line and an NPC wouldn't spawn (restarted the game). Many people reported characters "committing suicide" after walking off railings. I also froze a few times for no apparent reason. I think the final DLC add-on worked correctly, the others had buggy launches. If I remember correctly an un-finalized work-in-progress version of "The Pitt" was initially released. So yeah: Bethesda makes buggy games. I love them, but there's defiantly problems.)
#38 Posted by Jimbo (9998 posts) -
@Soapy86 said:
" @Jimbo said:
" They're working on Brink as well don't forget.  Maybe once Vegas and Brink are out of the way they'll start talking about Elder Scrolls... hopefully.  They can't not be working on one. "
Bethesda is not working on Brink or Fallout: New Vegas, only publishing. "
My bad, I thought Brink was in-house.  Still, the point I was (badly) trying to make was they probably don't want to distract from their marketing of those games by talking about something that's probably still a ways off.
#39 Posted by Stefan (520 posts) -

@Jimbo I think you are right, they will probably announce TES5 after Brink is out which is set for Q2, at least here on GB. I don't think that they will wait until Rage is out though. I really liked the screenshots they released for Oblivion starting around 1.5 years before it's release - I checked for new ones every week.

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