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    The Godfather II

    Game » consists of 11 releases. Released Apr 07, 2009

    This open-world crime sequel follows the events of the second film and attempts to make you act like a mobster and think like a Don in the Godfather universe.

    Gamespot's verdict is in, and it aint pretty

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    #1  Edited By BoG
    4.5
    "The Godfather II has clearly been released in an unfinished state and is riddled with performance issues and bugs like they've been fired from a Tommy gun."
    "...the gunplay in The Godfather II is neither challenging nor satisfying."
    "Not only is soliciting murder advice from random pedestrians totally absurd, carrying out these contrived actions is more trouble than it's worth, so you'll probably end up just bombing the compound every time."
    "The Godfather II should have been an offer impossible to refuse, but like Michael's brother Fredo, this one will break your heart."

    Yikes. Looks like this one didn't turn out how EA had hoped. Where was quality control when they were needed most?

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    #2  Edited By Coltonio7

    Yeesh! Really? I was totally going to pick it up too...maybe I'll just rent it/

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    #3  Edited By toowalrus

    Well, even Gamespot couldn't underestimate a game this poorly. It probably sucks.

    EDIT: Nah, I take it back. Thinking back to Merc's 2 and Halo Wars, there's been lots of Gamespots reviews that I thought were poorly done.

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    #4  Edited By jakob187

    This just in:  Justin Calvert is being fired over his review of The Godfather II.


    cwutididthar?

    Seriously, though...that's a fucking HARSH review, man.  Nonetheless, the dood didn't candycoat it...and that makes me fucking happy as Hell!
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    #5  Edited By Vinchenzo

    GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.

    P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level.

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    #6  Edited By ZombieHunterOG

    i dont really think the review is accurate at all...








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    #7  Edited By raven_squad

    I wasn't expecting much better to be honest. 4.5 for gamespot probably translates to a 6.5 or 7 somewhere else though. 

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    #8  Edited By Coltonio7
    Vinchenzo said:
    "GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level."
    Shush, Gamespot is still pretty rad. Editorial-wise.
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    #9  Edited By jakob187
    Vinchenzo said:
    "GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level."
    =  O  THE BROKENNESS OF THIS GAME IS AFFECTING THE VIDEO BUFFERING?!  ZOMG!

    EA, WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED?!?!?!?!?  AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    #10  Edited By Vinchenzo
    jakob187 said:
    "Vinchenzo said:
    "GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level."
    =  O  THE BROKENNESS OF THIS GAME IS AFFECTING THE VIDEO BUFFERING?!  ZOMG!

    EA, WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED?!?!?!?!?  AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "
    Buffer? No, the video stops at 27 seconds. Not a buffering problem. It just cuts off.
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    #11  Edited By jakob187
    Vinchenzo said:
    "jakob187 said:
    "Vinchenzo said:
    "GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level."
    =  O  THE BROKENNESS OF THIS GAME IS AFFECTING THE VIDEO BUFFERING?!  ZOMG!

    EA, WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED?!?!?!?!?  AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
    Buffer? No, the video stops at 27 seconds. Not a buffering problem. It just cuts off."
    Man...this game must be evil, then!
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    #12  Edited By ZombieHunterOG

    i found that IGNs review was closer to the truth

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    #13  Edited By zitosilva

    Huh, that caught me by surprise. Though I'll still check it out myself, I was thinking this game would be above average.

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    #14  Edited By BoG

    Some of you guys have been paying attention to Gspot lately. Last year, after handing out two 10s in a row, they really cracked down, and they're dishing out the hate these days.

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    #15  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    I stopped paying attention to Gamespot after Vinny left around last march, because by that point there was nobody left on the editorial staff that I trusted review-wise and the Hotspot was the only thing keeping me going.
    The overall metacritic average of 72 shows that there are at least a few people who had differing opinions, but I really don't care about this game anyways.

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    #16  Edited By Dirty_Harry

    Was anyone really expecting much from that game? lol

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    #17  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    Dirty_Harry said:
    "Was anyone really expecting much from that game? lol"
     I sure didn't
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    #18  Edited By tebbit

    Whats with all the Gamespot hate? Still! They still do solid reviews. If you wanna hate something, hate Cnet. Still, 4.5 is pretty harsh I guess. If this were a popular game people would be up in arms.

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    #19  Edited By prinny_god

    well gamespot is full of morons because godfather 2 is pretty damn good

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    #20  Edited By Alexander

    JC and the Berg are two cool guys still at GS.

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    #21  Edited By prinny_god

    they gave ninja blade a better score which is laughable

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    #22  Edited By JJOR64

    Damn, after listening to the Bombcast this game sounded awesome.

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    #23  Edited By prinny_god
    JJOR64 said:
    "Damn, after listening to the Bombcast this game sounded awesome."
    trust me it is awesome I bought and I love it
    if you like fun games you'll love the godfather 2
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    #24  Edited By JJOR64

    Is there a Demo of this out yet?  Maybe I'll try the demo first.

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    #25  Edited By RHCPfan24

    I am picking it up momentarily, and I don't care about the reviews. The reviews for the last game were pretty negative, and I loved it. This should be similar. If it is anything like the first one, I am set.

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    #26  Edited By Diamond

    Someone who pirated the game a week ago on /v/ said it was horrible.

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    #27  Edited By prinny_god
    JJOR64 said:
    "Is there a Demo of this out yet?  Maybe I'll try the demo first."
    no demo
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    #28  Edited By Linkyshinks

    Wow...

    EDIT:

    Watching GB member,  Artie's review, makes me feel a lot more positive about this game, after having read and watched Justin's review


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    #29  Edited By prinny_god
    TheSmilingDude said:
    "BoG said:

    Yikes. Looks like this one didn't turn out how EA had hoped. Where was quality control when they were needed most?
    They don't need it because The Godfather is allready an established videogame name, so they can just sell off the trash to idiot consumers who never inform themselves about the purchases they make."
    but the game is actually pretty good
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    #30  Edited By Artie

    The Gamespot review is ridiculous, and it's nitpicky as hell. It's like they wanted it to be bad. For instance:

    "You play as Dominic, an important member of the Corleone family who somehow managed to make it through the epic movie trilogy without ever wandering into camera shot despite apparently being involved in a number of key scenes."

    This is hardly something to complain about. How would the video game work without playing with the fiction a little bit? You should just play as Fredo Corleone and sit in a room rambling like an idiot for 20 hours? Or this tid bit:

    "Other times they prefer to enter through different doors while running backward, or perhaps crash through a window for an entrance that really gets them noticed. If you turn your back on them, though, they'll be warped instantly to your side, sometimes."


    First of all, if you want to "not be noticed" you should be crouching, and then your AI buddies don't crash through windows like the review claims. Secondly, I don't see what the problem is with warping AI partners. The game is supposed to be fun, not realistic. Sure, maybe if it's not realistic and you weren't expecting it you'll be a little discombobulated, but I don't see how warping AI buddies ruins your experience or hinders the gameplay in any way shape or form, so who cares? One last thing:

    Annoyingly, there's no consistent rule set in the world of The Godfather II, so while some fences can be cut through in specific locations, other, identical-looking fences, are impenetrable. Doors are another example; some can be kicked down, some can be lock-picked, and others can't be opened even with dynamite.

    Yes, welcome to the world of video games. How come I can hold 99 potions and 99 phoenix downs, but not 120 potions and 0 phoenix downs in Final Fantasy? I don't know what Justin was expecting from this game, but I'm pretty sure every video game made in the history of the world has inconsistencies, and it hasn't ruined our experiences with them yet. It seems like Justin didn't like the game for some reason that he never explains, and then uses blanketed complaints that are overly vague and never explains why these problems don't work in this game, but work for other games.

    It really sounds like Justin is reviewing a preview build or something:
    __________
    Dated visuals, voiced lines of dialogue that seemingly play at random and often inappropriate times, dead bodies falling through scenery, a car hovering in the air about half a mile off the Cuban coast, being able to snipe enemies through walls and doors that haven't popped into view yet, guards who fail to recognize you as a threat when you walk into a federal building and crack a safe, cars and pedestrians that appear and disappear long before they leave your range of vision, getting stuck in an animation somewhere between a regular walk and a crouch after vaulting through a window--these are just some of the problems we encountered in the 13 hours or so that it took to play from start to finish.
    __________
    I played the game for 24 hours in total, and I never had any of these problems. My copy came in a green box with a picture on the disc, I wonder what his looked like? I'm glad Linkyshinks saw my review and feels more optimistic about the game (and post it here, thanks for that, and for enjoying the review) because I really believe the game is about pure having fun. Not being the latest technical marvel, or bringing video games to a new level of consistency and realism.

    Anyways, I hope this wasn't too long.

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    #31  Edited By prinny_god

    artie I love you

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    #32  Edited By Gunner
    BoG said:
    "Some of you guys have been paying attention to Gspot lately. Last year, after handing out two 10s in a row, they really cracked down, and they're dishing out the hate these days."
    CAUSE LIKING A GAME IS JUST WRONG.

    amirite?
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    #33  Edited By RandomHero666

    I'm still gonna rent it.

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    #34  Edited By TheMustacheHero

    Whoever wrote that is going to get fired!

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    #35  Edited By TwoOneFive

    unfinished state, how could this happen? fucking pathetic. 

    oh and don't be mad about a score that low. they're just finally using the 1 to 10 scale properly, instead of abandoning 1 to 5 and using only 6 to 10 like they used to. 

    its guys like this that made me leave gamespot though:
    http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26841087&tag=topics;title
    dude is definitely paid by prototype devs to advertise on forums no doubt. 
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    #36  Edited By JJOR64
    prinny_god said:
    "JJOR64 said:
    "Is there a Demo of this out yet?  Maybe I'll try the demo first."
    no demo"
    Poop.
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    #37  Edited By Artie
    dcpc10 said:
    "Artie, your review is a million times better than the GS review."
    Thanks, I'm assuming most people watched the video and didn't read my written one. I think gamespot focuses more so on their writing, whereas I focused on the video :/ But I'm glad everyone is holding it to such a high standard.

    TwoOneFive said:
    "unfinished state, how could this happen? fucking pathetic. 
    oh and don't be mad about a score that low. they're just finally using the 1 to 10 scale properly, instead of abandoning 1 to 5 and using only 6 to 10 like they used to. "
    That may be true, but GameSpot in general doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying the website specifically, but review websites in general like 1Up or IGN. Movie reviewers today are ran by single personalities. You don't read "The Chicago Tribune Movie Reviews" you read Roger Ebert's reviews. It's pretty easy to figure out his philosophy on what makes a movie good or bad, and you can figure out if you disagree with him or not pretty easily. With GameSpot it's multiple personalities, and while we may all know who they are, your average new reader doesn't. So a 4.5 could mean "it's alright" or "it's the worst thing ever." Most of the people in this thread had to wait for you or BoG to come in and inform us that that's how they review games now.

    Justin complains about the inconsistencies of the game, but his review has inconsistencies of it's own. The multiplayer maps are too big? This is the same man who gave GTA4 a 10, does anyone recall a GTA4 multiplayer map that wasn't enourmous? I'm not saying GTA4 should get a 9, or that Godfather II should get a 10, but if you're going to review games, review them the same way every time. And maybe I'm going on a personal crusade a little too much, since I get frustrated when an underrated series/game like The Godfather is put down but this stuff just makes me mad. Maybe he should start complaining that "you can't survive multiple gun shot wounds in real life."
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    #38  Edited By prinny_god

    I get frustrated really frustrated when underrated games get put down also I've had a personal crusade for Valkyrie Chronicles going on since it came out now I have one for the godfather 2.
    I just want people to know that both of those games are really good Valkyrie Chronicles was my game of the year last year and godfather 2 is my game of the year so far this year but infamous is probably going to take that spot when it comes out.

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    #39  Edited By Gump

    @ Artie and everyone here.

     Forget the GS review (ignore it) and keep your eye open for Mafia II.

    In-Game Screenshot - MAFIA II
    In-Game Screenshot - MAFIA II

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    #40  Edited By rerty
    TwoOneFive said:
    "unfinished state, how could this happen? fucking pathetic. 
    oh and don't be mad about a score that low. they're just finally using the 1 to 10 scale properly, instead of abandoning 1 to 5 and using only 6 to 10 like they used to. 

    its guys like this that made me leave gamespot though:
    http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26841087&tag=topics;title
    dude is definitely paid by prototype devs to advertise on forums no doubt. 
    "
    dead on,,,, this game is terrible and the strategy elements just make things boring and tedious . This is coming from a person who loved the first game.
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    #41  Edited By Pibo47
    jakob187 said:
    "Vinchenzo said:
    "GameSpot still reviews games? Who knew.P.S. Check out the video review, it's currently broken. It stops at 27 seconds. Oh jeez, GS fails on every level."
    =  O  THE BROKENNESS OF THIS GAME IS AFFECTING THE VIDEO BUFFERING?!  ZOMG!

    EA, WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED?!?!?!?!?  AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "
    I just laughed really hard. And yes, this game did look like a big smelly shit.
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    #42  Edited By Gump
    dcpc10 said:
    "Its no doubt that Mafia 2 is gonna be amazing, but who knows when that's coming out :("
    It will be released in the second half of 2009--probably in october--so, better save your money for MAFIA II. Let's hope that one turns out well.
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    #43  Edited By Scorched
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    #44  Edited By ZombieHunterOG

    am i the only one who hated mafia 1 ?


    seriously i found it really boring and hard to get in 2
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    Ryan said Godfather 2 was a pretty good game, and it doesn't look like a 4.5 from what I can see, I guess I'll just have to try it out.

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    #46  Edited By ZombieHunterOG
    ZombieHunter said:
    "am i the only one who hated mafia 1 ?

    seriously i found it really boring and hard to get in 2
    "
    who - 1 me 

    its an opinion 

    christ people are uptight 
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    #47  Edited By RHCPfan24

    Artie, like others said, your review is much better than Gamespot's. I found your opinion to be more straightforward and levelheaded compared to the extremely hotheaded approach GS took. Good job, and the video itself was impressive along with the content.

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    #48  Edited By Artie

    Thanks RHCP.

    And about Mafia II: I played the first one for the Ps2, I wasn't very educated about games when that came out, so the idea of playing a PC focused game on console didn't seem like a bad idea at the time. I didn't really like it that much, but I might've played it for four hours, max. I'll definitely check out the 2nd one, since I can afford virtually every game that comes out now (Hooray disposable income) it has sparked my interest.

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    #49  Edited By Gump
    ZZombieHunter said:
    "am i the only one who hated mafia 1 ?

    seriously i found it really boring and hard to get in 2"

    "who - 1 me 

    its an opinion 

    christ people are uptight"
    It wasn't a good opinion because you only wanted to fuzz the air, I really don't know if you have played Mafia but ultimately that wasn't a good response or even a necessary point.

    Mafia is an influential game. In fact, believe it or not, Mafia influenced GTAIV to ditch the outlandish gameplay of SA and take the realism road. I imagine that all the GTAIV fanboys hate the Mafia series.
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    #50  Edited By PercyChuggs

    Anyone who thought this game would be anything better than mediocre, is an idiot, plain and simple. This is a license that has no business being a video game.

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