Sony abandons The Last Guardian trademark for US.

#1 Posted by Metal_Mills (3016 posts) -
http://www.trademarkia.com/the-last-guardian-77750563.html
 

This is a brand page for the  THE LAST GUARDIAN trademark by Sony Computer Entertainment America 
ABANDONED - NO STATEMENT OF USE FILED.
 

Well then...it's not an official cancel but that's a pretty big nail that just went into that games coffin.
#2 Posted by BlackLagoon (1457 posts) -

It just looks like they forgot to renew it.

#3 Posted by Metal_Mills (3016 posts) -
@BlackLagoon said:

It just looks like they forgot to renew it.

That seems pretty incompetent. If that's the case then time to buy the name and sell it back at a high price.
#4 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2778 posts) -

wel'p, it was nice

#5 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

that sucks.

#6 Posted by Jay_Ray (1111 posts) -

Or you know, they are just renaming it. Please let that be the case.

#7 Posted by Turtlebird95 (2512 posts) -

People still believe in this game?

#8 Posted by BlackLagoon (1457 posts) -

@Metal_Mills: It's also possible they can't renew it, trademarks are a bit tricky that that way - you have to actually use them to be able to maintain you claim on them. Since Sony doesn't yet know when the game will be out, I wouldn't be surprised if they can't keep sitting on the name forever. And yes, some other entity could theoretically grab it, but only to put out their own game, trying to extort Sony would probably just get their claim struck down in court.

#9 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

I just died a little inside.

#10 Posted by FLStyle (4785 posts) -

I was wondering what was going on, what a shame, it looked pretty good.

#11 Edited by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

Hope this isn't too bad as I think it is. :(

#12 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Probably so people don't confuse The Last of Us with The Last Guardian, yep that must be it 'the game is comming... I know it is, what? ... I'm totally sure, shut up don't even ...'

#13 Posted by TheHT (11556 posts) -

@Jay_Ray said:

Or you know, they are just renaming it. Please let that be the case.

"The Last Guardian" is a pretty generic name.

#14 Edited by MonkeyKing1969 (2913 posts) -

Seems more likely they just forgot to renew because it was not on a "punch list" to be renewed because it was expected to be out SO LONG AGO. The incompetence is not some Sony office clerk not renewing it, the incompetence is all on Fumito Ueda. Most respected staff at Japanese developers at Ueda's level would have been quietly shifted to somewhere else (park at a desk) to be ignored, but Sony did what amounted to as-good-as firing his ass by designating his as freelance. My guess is Ueda is not even REALLY a freelancing on the project; his name is connected as a freelancer to save Sony's face, not Ueda's.

Does that mean the game will come out or Sony will grab the name again? Not really. I think Sony blew too much money to quit, but I doubt they won't to do much more then get it out the door. Yet, It still could be cancelled; but this is not an indication of it being cancelled...this is unconnected but just sad all the same.

#15 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -

This game never existed.

#16 Edited by JackSukeru (5922 posts) -

They're renaming it "Shadow of the Big Cat-Bird Colossus"

#17 Posted by Rafaelfc (1385 posts) -

even Sony forgot this game existed

#18 Posted by boj4ngles (287 posts) -

If they fail to make this game, then it will be the greatest game that never was. The world just wasn't good enough to have it. It had to stay in heaven.

#19 Posted by Stete (748 posts) -

That's a shame, it was the only console exclusive games I was looking forward to these last couple of years. Although there's a chance it will be like Ico and get pushed to next generation hardware.

#20 Posted by abomunist (119 posts) -

I really hope I get to see this game. Ueda's previous games make me think that he has an innate grasp of the medium in an age where most productions still seem fumbly/janky/contrived.

#21 Edited by IIGrayFoxII (304 posts) -

@Metal_Mills: Sony has until January of 2013 to renew. When you file a trademark you have up to 3 years to use it and then it expires. So this all in all means nothing. Secondly US Copyright law is pretty tricky and you cannot just buy a trademark to sit on it.

Kotaku has a good article on it.

#22 Edited by zels (207 posts) -

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are *ever good anyway.

*fine, "rarely" is a better word.

#23 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1730 posts) -
@zels said:

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are ever good anyway.

Yeh, Resident Evil 4 sure was a stinker. 
#24 Posted by zels (207 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are ever good anyway.

Yeh, Resident Evil 4 sure was a stinker.

Fixed it

#25 Posted by shway (176 posts) -

lol false hope, this "game" if it ever comes out wont be good enough to stand up to expectations. Better of dead

#26 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -

@shway said:

lol false hope, this "game" if it ever comes out wont be good enough to stand up to expectations. Better of dead

Whoa. Those are harsh words! No need to kick the little guardian while it is down!

#27 Edited by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1730 posts) -
@zels said:

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are ever good anyway.

Yeh, Resident Evil 4 sure was a stinker.

Fixed it

Much better. I mean, I could also have thrown out Team Fortress 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime, Mother 3, FF XII..
#28 Posted by gaminghooligan (1468 posts) -

uh oh. this game has gone through serious production hell lol

#29 Posted by GnomeonFire (772 posts) -

People thought this old tech demo was actually going to be a game one day?

#30 Posted by believer258 (12019 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are ever good anyway.

Yeh, Resident Evil 4 sure was a stinker.

Fixed it

Much better. I mean, I could also have thrown out Team Fortress 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime, Mother 3, FF XII..

You might get some flak from that last one, though I admittedly did enjoy what I played of FFXII.

#31 Edited by kindgineer (2773 posts) -

Was it going to be a huge release? I feel left out having no idea about what the hell it was. Sounds like a PS3 exclusive, though, so I doubt I would have been able to play it.

EDIT: Ah, yeah that game. Bummer.

#32 Posted by chrissedoff (2153 posts) -

It looks like Sony is trying to gradually lower everyone's expectations until, at long last, they casually mention that The Last Guardian has been cancelled, like it's no big deal.

#33 Posted by The_Nubster (2271 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zels said:

Meh, it's not like games that keep getting delayed for years are ever good anyway.

Yeh, Resident Evil 4 sure was a stinker.

Fixed it

Much better. I mean, I could also have thrown out Team Fortress 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime, Mother 3, FF XII..

And the number of games that were delayed so greatly and did stink is a much longer list. You're listing expections, not the norm. Besides, all of those games except FF13 and Mother got completely scrapped and rebuilt from the ground-up, so they were essentially brand-new games.

#34 Edited by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1730 posts) -
@The_Nubster: Exceptional games like the ones I listed are rare when it comes to normal development cycles, never mind drawn-out arduous ones. All I intended to demonstrate was that protracted dev times can lead to just as high a quality game as 'normal' ones can. 
#35 Posted by SuicidalSnowman (396 posts) -

Trademark professional here:

Sony may be giving it up, but most likely the issue is trademark procedure. You can only have an intent to use application open for three years (4 if you are a really good trademark lawyer), so when it becomes clear you cannot use within that window, usually the best option is to abandon and restart the process. This stuff happens all the time, but recently video gaming outlets have been following trademarks a lot closer so this gets reported.

The other explanation, although much less likely, is that a competitor with a superior right saw the application and informally opposed to Sony, and the two have reached an agreement. Perhaps Sony's abandonment was part of this type of agreement and the game will be renamed or rebranded. I would bet its the first, though.

The Kotaku article is basically correct, but the author misuses a lot of terms.

#36 Posted by Brodehouse (10104 posts) -

Man, remember that year? What was that, 2009? Agent and the Last Guardian.

#37 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -

For what it's worth, Shuhei Yoshida at Sony has made a statement that The Last Guardian is not cancelled. The game has, however, run into "technical issues" that he does not elaborate on. He only notes that they only cropped up after they had already begun discussing a potential launch window for the game, which was unfortunate timing. And whatever those issues were, they apparently required some heavy recoding.

#38 Posted by Twinsun (484 posts) -

Wonder if they are thinking of moving it to the next system. From the trailers I can imagine why there might be some technical restrictions on the current platfrom preventing it from becoming what was originally intented. But we will have to wait and see, and hope for the best I suppose.

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