So Gameinformer gave this game a 6.0...

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#1 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (421 posts) -

That seems kind of odd, especially since everything I've read about this game is that it's amazing. I usually think GI gives games higher scores than they deserve and granted, I haven't played this game yet, a 6.0 seems mighty low. What are your thoughts?

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#2 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13807 posts) -

Maybe they think it deserved a 6? Maybe it was THEIR view? 

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#3 Posted by ShaggE (8341 posts) -

Game Informer must be biased for/against something! I will/will not support such madness!

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#4 Posted by Doctorchimp (4186 posts) -

My thoughts are they thought that game I'll never play is a 6/10

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#5 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

Couldn't you have put the score in the post so I could keep it away from me? I don't want my opinion to be potentially spoiled like this.

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#6 Posted by ExplodeMode (851 posts) -

Are you saying I should follow the money?

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#7 Edited by Justin258 (14268 posts) -

I would guess that they didn't have a very high opinion of it. Yours might be different, but theirs was middling.

I usually think GI gives games higher scores than they deserve

But you aren't writing the review so it isn't your opinion.

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#8 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

Their opinion is wrong, they should give the game a higher score like everyone else.

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#9 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (421 posts) -

Haha, alright. Bad question. It is their opinion. Apologies folks.

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#10 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

And Destructoid gave it a 4/10. Something must be wrong with this game. :P

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#11 Posted by Animasta (14903 posts) -

@Phatmac said:

And Destructoid gave it a 4/10. Something must be wrong with this game. :P

I'd trust literally anyone else before I would trust Sterling on a video game review.

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#12 Edited by mandude (2823 posts) -

I wouldn't let it get to you. I think the same dude gave Dragon Age II an 8.

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#13 Posted by Demoskinos (17318 posts) -

Obvious moneyhats.

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#14 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

@Animasta: He gets all my trust after giving Deadly Premonition a 10/10.

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#15 Posted by Getz (3764 posts) -

Destructoid (Jim Sterling) thrashed the game as well, but I have so very rarely agreed with Sterling's reviews that I can't help but be skeptical. He gave the same score to Assassin's Creed II for reasons I will never understand so take his review with a grain of salt.

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#16 Posted by DoctorWelch (2817 posts) -

THEY GAVE IT A 6/5 STARS!!!!!!! :O

That game must be amazing.

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#17 Posted by Bane122 (964 posts) -

It's simple, really... they're racist.

And Sterling was the one who reviewed it for D-toid? Good, that means I can completely ignore it now.

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#18 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (421 posts) -

@DoctorWelch: haha, good way of looking at it!

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#19 Posted by Amaru25 (150 posts) -

Lol everyone hates Jim Sterling for having an opinion. Damn him!

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#20 Posted by Fallen189 (5453 posts) -

Maybe because it's another generic JRPG?

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#21 Posted by aurahack (2539 posts) -

@Fallen189 said:

Maybe because it's another generic JRPG?

Careful saying that round these parts. People will get upset no matter the validity.

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#22 Posted by Fallen189 (5453 posts) -
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@Fallen189 said:

Maybe because it's another generic JRPG?

Careful saying that round these parts. People will get upset no matter the validity.

The truth can hurt sometimes. Just because it's a Sakaguchi game, and it's Japanese, doesn't mean it's gonna be great
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#23 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1154 posts) -
@ExplodeMode

Are you saying I should follow the money?

No. Saying to open your eyes, sheeple!
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#24 Posted by ImaTreee (206 posts) -

well reviews are reviews. nothing more than someone else's opinion. it's the reader's choice on whether they want to pay attention to the opinion or not.

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#25 Posted by Animasta (14903 posts) -

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Lol everyone hates Jim Sterling for having an opinion. Damn him!

an opinion that is purposely skewed for page hits of angry people cussing him out.

Now, I'm not saying it's good or bad (it's probably not good but I have no wii) but Sterling trolls people for page hits. That's all he does.

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#26 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Amaru25 said:

Lol everyone hates Jim Sterling for having an opinion. Damn him!

an opinion that is purposely skewed for page hits of angry people cussing him out.

Now, I'm not saying it's good or bad (it's probably not good but I have no wii) but Sterling trolls people for page hits. That's all he does.

Can you call him Jim Sterling? It's weird reading my name

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#27 Edited by EXTomar (5047 posts) -

Here is a strange thought: Maybe some people think the game is mediocre instead of some grand conspiracy to put some game down.

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#28 Posted by ManMadeGod (1625 posts) -

Still buying it, I think the game looks interesting. Need a reason to dust off the Wii anyway.

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#29 Posted by BestUsernameEver (5026 posts) -

@fuzzypumpkin: Well Destructoid gave it a 4, so I am pretty sure the hype and demanding to bring it to the U.S. was completely overblown.

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#30 Posted by BestUsernameEver (5026 posts) -

@Animasta: Stop with the pageview crap, Jim Sterling clearly defines why the games deserve that score, it's not like hes making up problems with the game and purposfully giving it a low score. If you actually believe he does that, wow, just wow.

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#31 Edited by EXTomar (5047 posts) -

Also, why would a couple of reviews let alone some scores dictate some other opinion? Why should you care if others don't love it while The Last Story looks and sound like a game you would enjoy?

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#32 Posted by Grimace (390 posts) -

Opinions can differ. I think Assassins Creed II is one of the best games of this generation, but Jim Sterling gave it a 4/10 or something ridiculous. I don't dislike Jim for that and think he's genuinely one of the smarter people within gaming press.

If you're interested in a game then you should play it regardless of what scores it gets.

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#33 Edited by MEATBALL (4231 posts) -

The Last Story isn't "another generic JRPG", it is very much in similar spirit to Xenoblade, where it attempts to pull the genre into the modern day. But where Xenoblade's focus was on scope, TLS's focus is on innovative combat for the genre and a streamlined experience free of grind (that works much, much better than FFXIII). TLS is not as good as Xenoblade Chronicles, but I wouldn't hesitate to call it a must own for the Wii. Like any game, I can understand where some might not like it, but to just pass over the game as "just another generic JRPG" is fucking stupid and ignorant. Is isn't a matter of being "upset no matter the validity" because the generic label is completely invalid. I don't take issue with someone not liking the game - beyond the fact that I had the opposite experience - but lets not make ignorant assumptions. The game is almost like a game designed for people that like JRPGs but have grown to hate a bunch of things about them (like Brad, for instance).

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#34 Posted by ArbitraryWater (14621 posts) -

Gamespot gave it a 9. Soooo... different critics have differing opinions? If you read them, figure out what they're all trying to say, and then use that information to make a judgement based on your own tastes, then those people have done their jobs. Even Jim Sterling's reviews can have something useful in them in between all the grandstanding and deliberate contrariness.

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#35 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (421 posts) -

@EXTomar: I wasn't mad about it or saying that it was keeping me from playing it. Just wondering what peoples' thoughts were. People will try to make you feel dumb on these pages though haha

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#36 Posted by Metric_Outlaw (1201 posts) -

I understand what your saying. Game Informer usually gives everything a few points higher than it deserves. I guess its a little odd. But its like their opinion man.

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#37 Edited by ManMadeGod (1625 posts) -

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Animasta: Stop with the pageview crap, Jim Sterling clearly defines why the games deserve that score, it's not like hes making up problems with the game and purposfully giving it a low score. If you actually believe he does that, wow, just wow.

Ehhh, you can justify any score for any game. Doesn't make the review a good tool for consumers looking to buy the product. Just reading the comments on his review some users are saying you can turn off the auto-combat option that he spent a decent time ripping in the review. Sounds like a lazy write-up but I don't have the game yet so we'll see.

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#38 Posted by martez87 (68 posts) -

I fucking love Jim Sterling from his articles and the excellent Jimquisition (check it out hereif you haven't seen it), but his reviews are all over the place. I don't think he is lying or anything like that, but I can say that I disagree with his reviews enough to ignore them (appart from Deadly Premonition of course :) )

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#39 Posted by EXTomar (5047 posts) -

It is just that this is a silly question. A silly question that is asked over and over and over and over and over again with the names changed. In a couple of months someone is going to ask this about some source giving some score they thought was odd or wrong. There is no mystery nor is anything weird or wrong.

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#40 Edited by BestUsernameEver (5026 posts) -

@ManMadeGod said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Animasta: Stop with the pageview crap, Jim Sterling clearly defines why the games deserve that score, it's not like hes making up problems with the game and purposfully giving it a low score. If you actually believe he does that, wow, just wow.

Ehhh, you can justify any score for any game. Doesn't make the review a good tool for consumers looking to buy the product. Just reading the comments on his review some users are saying you can turn off the auto-combat option that he spent a decent time ripping in the review. Sounds like a lazy write-up but I don't have the game yet so we'll see.

Then you see in the comments Jim Sterling acknowledges the auto combat distinction and promised to address the difference edited in the review. Sounds to me you're being way too critical of Sterling for whatever reason, I don't really care why. I think he's an honest reviewer with a controversial way of displaying his opinions, some people can't tell when he's being sarcastic, so they assume his reviews are 'trolling' them too. If you really read a few of his reviews, like the mario kart 7 where he gave it a 5, it's clear that he liked mario kart a decade ago, but the formula doesn't hold up anymore. He has valid reasons for every controversial review, even the 10/10 deadly premonition was honestly worded and felt to me as a genuine score.

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#41 Posted by Justin258 (14268 posts) -

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Animasta: Stop with the pageview crap, Jim Sterling clearly defines why the games deserve that score, it's not like hes making up problems with the game and purposfully giving it a low score. If you actually believe he does that, wow, just wow.

I don't always disagree with Jim Sterling but, to put it softly, he always puts his opinion forth as a self-righteous twat; I wouldn't put it past him to troll people for page views.

Of course, my biggest exposure to Sterling has been his show on The Escapist and not so much his Destructoid articles, so maybe my opinion on him was skewed from day one.

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#42 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

@Amaru25 said:

Lol everyone hates Jim Sterling for having an opinion. Damn him!

I just feel like his reviews never really line up with his scores, like the scores were some kind of weird punchline. Which I guess is fine, but it comes off as sloppy to me, combine that with kinda poor writing and I generally dislike his reviews. Nothing to do with his actual thoughts. More like how he puts them down.

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#43 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (421 posts) -

@EXTomar: I already apologized because I realized that it was a bad question.

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#44 Posted by Shady (511 posts) -

That's what I'd give Xenoblade.

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#45 Posted by ManMadeGod (1625 posts) -

@BestUsernameEver said:

@ManMadeGod said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Animasta: Stop with the pageview crap, Jim Sterling clearly defines why the games deserve that score, it's not like hes making up problems with the game and purposfully giving it a low score. If you actually believe he does that, wow, just wow.

Ehhh, you can justify any score for any game. Doesn't make the review a good tool for consumers looking to buy the product. Just reading the comments on his review some users are saying you can turn off the auto-combat option that he spent a decent time ripping in the review. Sounds like a lazy write-up but I don't have the game yet so we'll see.

Then you see in the comments Jim Sterling acknowledges the auto combat distinction and promised to address the difference edited in the review. Sounds to me you're being way too critical of Sterling for whatever reason, I don't really care why. I think he's an honest reviewer with a controversial way of displaying his opinions, some people can't tell when he's being sarcastic, so they assume his reviews are 'trolling' them too. If you really read a few of his reviews, like the mario kart 7 where he gave it a 5, it's clear that he liked mario kart a decade ago, but the formula doesn't hold up anymore. He has valid reasons for every controversial reviews, even the 10/10 deadly premonition was honestly worded and felt to me as a genuine score.

It looks to me like he missed the feature and is now saving face. Guy put up 2 reviews in one day, it's understandable that he missed some aspects of a game. Happens to everyone.

Again: the majority of his grief with the game is the controls. "Just in case you're still confused as to what the issue may be, let me repeat for clarity -- Zael walks and attacks using the same analog stick." & "The worst part is that, for as confused as it tends to be, The Last Story is simple and brainless. So much of the combat essentially plays itself for you"

If that is such a problem for him why not turn it off? If he knew he could and left it out of the review anyway then that's just lazy.

What does "honest reviewer" even mean? I could write you an honest review right now of why Zelda OoT is shit and should be given one star. Don't see how that factors into anything.

I'm not being critical of Jim Sterling as a person. I'm simply commenting on this one review.

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#46 Posted by Sackmanjones (5452 posts) -

Game sucks then.

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#47 Edited by rubberluffy (724 posts) -

I've already played and beaten the PAL release and I'd give it an 8/10 at best.  Not nearly as good as my beloved Xenoblade, but still pretty fun.  It has some weird mechanics and the characters are kinda forgettable, but the combat is pretty enjoyable (I had autoattack turned off), the overall story is interesting and I like the world/environments.  The online co-op (just boss fights) and versus modes sucked though and were terribly unbalanced.  Game was also much shorter than I thought it would be.  After having put 180 hours into Xenoblade (I've done this twice, btw), I think I beat TLS at around 35 hours.

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#48 Posted by BestUsernameEver (5026 posts) -

@ManMadeGod:

What does "honest reviewer" even mean? I could write you an honest review right now of why Zelda OoT is shit and should be given one star. Don't see how that factors into anything.

Honest review to me means a review I believe, If you wrote a bad review just to write a bad review, and gave it a low score, I'd think, in the trends of how the game is received, I wouldn't believe you wrote a genuine review. So that in mind, look back at a bunch of reviews Jim gave a low score to, the trends usually point to him being more right than wrong, but since the games are always new, people believe the hype, and call Jim out.

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#49 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8734 posts) -

Turns out people like different things.
 
I kind of like JRPG's and I'll go mental with it, others might not and return to their other games.

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#50 Edited by Panelhopper (504 posts) -

....I think this might just boil down to yet another misunderstanding of....well numbers. As Jim Sterling said himself, there are some people out there who( god knows why ) think that anything below an 8/10 is a bad score these days but gameinformer gave it a 6/10...6/10 is still above avarage. Besides if you want/like the game, who cares about reviews.

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