My thoughts are here. They are doing "slightly different" if you look at the actual quotes.

I would love to see Nintendo taking some notable degree of risk with the game, especially given the lack of risks they have taken elsewhere right now, what with software geared for casual gamers.

I think it will play out like any other zelda games, go to dungeon get new item, use that item to solve specific puzzles in that dungeon, move onto next dungeon. I don't think the game and style will be different (Wolf form anyone) but I think the characters and setting will be.

" I think it will play out like any other zelda games, go to dungeon get new item, use that item to solve specific puzzles in that dungeon, move onto next dungeon. I don't think the game and style will be different (Wolf form anyone) but I think the characters and setting will be. "

As long as the guys doing Metroid M or whatever don't touch it, I guess I won't mind.

@Linkyshinks said:

" @TheMustacheHero said:

" I think it will play out like any other zelda games, go to dungeon get new item, use that item to solve specific puzzles in that dungeon, move onto next dungeon. I don't think the game and style will be different (Wolf form anyone) but I think the characters and setting will be. "

... Zelda fans want some significant changes with this game...  "

@ EVERYONE
when was the last time zelda games actually had anything RADICALLY NEW, and don't tell me about link being able to change into the wolf cuz that shit SUCKED

"

@ EVERYONE
when was the last time zelda games actually had anything RADICALLY NEW, and don't tell me about link being able to change into the wolf cuz that shit SUCKED

"

" @TheMustacheHero said:

" I think it will play out like any other zelda games, go to dungeon get new item, use that item to solve specific puzzles in that dungeon, move onto next dungeon. I don't think the game and style will be different (Wolf form anyone) but I think the characters and setting will be. "

I think so too in respect to what you say about the classic formula returning, but I will be expecting them to mix it up considerably with this game, and not just cosmetically.  I have no idea how they will do this, what I do know is that Zelda fans want some significant changes with this game, and I think Nintendo are well aware of that now.  "

Hope they don't just bring out the same old game they've been bringing out for the last 10 years.

Zelda is way overated in my humble opinion..

They used to be my favourite adventure style games but Ueda's ICO and Shadow of the Colossus have long since taken that mantle.

I think they should look at Darksiders for ideas(ironic, isn't it?). I'd like to see a good combat system, platforming, and most importantly, challenge. Most of the boss battles in TP could have been absolutely fantastic, but they blew it by making them too easy. Take Morpheel. An insanely huge monster with a really cool design, that dies from three attacks with the item I found in his dungeon. All that lost potential makes me wanna break the disc in two.

There have only been four 3D Zeldas (ok, the DS titles are 3D too, but they're closer to the 2D games gameplay wise, yet switch up the experience enough to be their own thing from what I've seen) in the last 11 years, that's hardly oversaturating the market. Zelda offers a unique premise and gameplay that few other titles even attempt, and even fewer do it good enough. There was Okami, then what else (I don't think SOTC fits the description)? Keep it up, Nintendo. Besides, motion plus, the new story, and other elements Miyamoto says (if people actually read the interview, or the relevant quotes, instead of assume shit based on headlines) will lead to a more personalised experience, which I imagine is a weird manner to say there will be different ways past certain obstacles and challenges, should ensure the formula is switched up enough.

TP might have been too easy but it was still damn fun with great controls (regardless of the system it was played on), decent story progression, some lesser sequences (wolf stuff), yet it resulted in an epic 20 hour journey for me, which is a pretty good feat considering you rushed through the game in seemingly no time (again, thanks to the lack of difficulty), yet you kept coming across new things instead of the game's end. If I had it my way, the regular cannon-fodder enemies of the next Zelda would be as "tough" as Ganondorf, which made you use all your combat abilities (I think the combat mechanics in Zeldas simply rock) to kill him, but I doubt that will be the case. Regardless, it's bound to be a top notch title.

How about Link fighting his inner monsters and liberating himself from all evil that resides in him? Then he would die :shock:.

This is probably unrelated, but I am playing Twilight Princess for the first time and it's still the same formula we all already know. It's definitely not be a bad thing -and i did enjoy it before- but whatever Miyamoto has in store for the next Zelda, i hope they revamp the graphical aspect of the game by using a new engine built from the ground up.

" @Linkyshinks said:

" @TheMustacheHero said:

" I think it will play out like any other zelda games, go to dungeon get new item, use that item to solve specific puzzles in that dungeon, move onto next dungeon. I don't think the game and style will be different (Wolf form anyone) but I think the characters and setting will be. "

I think so too in respect to what you say about the classic formula returning, but I will be expecting them to mix it up considerably with this game, and not just cosmetically.  I have no idea how they will do this, what I do know is that Zelda fans want some significant changes with this game, and I think Nintendo are well aware of that now.  "

I pray that the wolf form doesn't return. "

What about Zelda as a true modern RPG?  A bit like classic Final Fantasy (not a copy) with all the best RPG elements.  I love RPG, so it does colour my view a little.

" How about Link fighting his inner monsters and liberating himself from all evil that resides in him? Then he would die :shock:. "

" What about Zelda as a true modern RPG?  A bit like classic Final Fantasy (not a copy) with all the best RPG elements.  I love RPG, so it does colour my view a little. "

Honestly, if I want to play Twilight Princess again, i'll play Twilight Princess.  If it's too close to the regular formula, that's a no sale from me i'm afraid. Metroid Other M is the sort of change Nintendo really needs for these franchises, maybe not the specific changes that are going to be present in Other M, but change in general. But most importantly, if it uses the same fucking mechanic one more time, that is it, I am done with the Zelda franchise.

That stupid dual world mechanic, I really don't care if other people feel differently, but shadow world, being small, time travelling, etc etc, is all ONE mechanic, dual world puzzle solving. The specifics vary greatly, but it's the same principal at it's core and im absolutely sick to my teeth of it. The Wind Waker style games have it right imo, Phantom Hourglass, and the new one, that was a decent change and I loved it. Twilight Princess I honestly feel was like 4 steps backwards.

 You remember how Miyamoto said the new Zelda would focus on achieving new gameplay ?, well now it seems their focus may be shifting to some of the other things, like say graphics.

In a interview with official Nintendo in Japan, Satoru Iwata has admitted the Zelda team now feel under "higher pressure" after looking at Monster Hunter 3 and seeing what Capcom have achieved technically... Iwata has urged them to work harder as a result.

http://www.gamekyo.com/newsfr31963_the-legend-of-zelda-wii-du-boulot-sur-les-graphismes.html

Surprise.......surprise......

"  You remember how Miyamoto said the new Zelda would focus on achieving new gameplay ?, well now it seems their focus may be shifting to some of the other things, like say graphics.

In a interview with  official Nintendo in Japan, Satoru Iwata has admitted the Zelda team now feel under "higher pressure" after looking at Monster Hunter 3 and seeing what Capcom have achieved techinically... Iwata has urged them to work harder as a result.

http://www.gamekyo.com/newsfr31963_the-legend-of-zelda-wii-du-boulot-sur-les-graphismes.html "

Yeah, I meant more momentarily ;)

This is a positive thing for the game, it's all very good them working on the inner working of course, but after TP, a game which even on Wii was held back due to it's Gamecube version, many gamers would like to see the very best the Wii has to offer graphically. Super Mario Galaxy 2 will undoubtably show glimpses, but due to the nature of it's art style, it wont show it's full capacity, not like a Zelda game can.

" @wealllikepie said:

"

@ EVERYONE
when was the last time zelda games actually had anything RADICALLY NEW, and don't tell me about link being able to change into the wolf cuz that shit SUCKED

"

zelda II on the NES. lol its only been about 20 years since we got anything new "

" @MikeHawk said:

" @wealllikepie said:

"

@ EVERYONE
when was the last time zelda games actually had anything RADICALLY NEW, and don't tell me about link being able to change into the wolf cuz that shit SUCKED

"

zelda II on the NES. lol its only been about 20 years since we got anything new "

I'll answer your question with another question: When was the last time a Zelda game sucked? Also Zelda II. I rest my case. "

If Nintendo radically changed Zelda then it will dive hard like a shot dove.

" The fact that nostalgia and fan service was put before modern gameplay sucked in every Zelda. Mediocre action adventure is mediocre. "

" @Meowayne said:

" The fact that nostalgia and fan service was put before modern gameplay sucked in every Zelda. Mediocre action adventure is mediocre. "

It's just Nintendo's "if it's ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. If they don't have to try at all and people will still love it anyway, then they won't. The sad part is it works like a charm.  I disagree with the term "mediocre" though. The games aren't mediocre, they're great. The problem is they're all exactly the same. Even something great gets boring after twenty years.  Then again you could probably argue that Phantom Hourglass attempted to change things up and I hated that one, so who knows. Maybe we can just start with a Zelda game that doesn't have a god damn boomerang and move forward from there. "
 

" @Meowayne said:

" The fact that nostalgia and fan service was put before modern gameplay sucked in every Zelda. Mediocre action adventure is mediocre. "

It's just Nintendo's "if it's ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. If they don't have to try at all and people will still love it anyway, then they won't. The sad part is it works like a charm.  I disagree with the term "mediocre" though. The games aren't mediocre, they're great. The problem is they're all exactly the same. Even something great gets boring after twenty years.  Then again you could probably argue that Phantom Hourglass attempted to change things up and I hated that one, so who knows. Maybe we can just start with a Zelda game that doesn't have a god damn boomerang and move forward from there. "
 

" Link should never be voiced imo, but all the characters around him should certainly be speaking now.  "

The reasoning behind that is so that gamers themselves can imagine what he sounds like, It can be equally powerful I think, it beats giving him an Americanized accent..

" @Kyle said:

" @Meowayne said:

" The fact that nostalgia and fan service was put before modern gameplay sucked in every Zelda. Mediocre action adventure is mediocre. "

It's just Nintendo's "if it's ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. If they don't have to try at all and people will still love it anyway, then they won't. The sad part is it works like a charm.  I disagree with the term "mediocre" though. The games aren't mediocre, they're great. The problem is they're all exactly the same. Even something great gets boring after twenty years.  Then again you could probably argue that Phantom Hourglass attempted to change things up and I hated that one, so who knows. Maybe we can just start with a Zelda game that doesn't have a god damn boomerang and move forward from there. "
 

To be fair, this mentality goes beyond Zelda. Pokemon's been pretty consistent, so have the Metroid games, the list goes on. Zelda follows this trend as well. I'd actually be curious on what new direction they could take a Zelda game, something along the lines of The Other M, which I'm assuming is going to play different than all the current Metroid games. "

" @Linkyshinks said:

" Link should never be voiced imo, but all the characters around him should certainly be speaking now.  "

That's a good idea. Silent warrior, yet everyone around him speaks. "

" @LiquidPrince said:

" @Linkyshinks said:

" Link should never be voiced imo, but all the characters around him should certainly be speaking now.  "

That's a good idea. Silent warrior, yet everyone around him speaks. "

The games are already like that. Link doesn't even speak in text. "

" @Apathylad said:

" @Kyle said:

" @Meowayne said:

" The fact that nostalgia and fan service was put before modern gameplay sucked in every Zelda. Mediocre action adventure is mediocre. "

It's just Nintendo's "if it's ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. If they don't have to try at all and people will still love it anyway, then they won't. The sad part is it works like a charm.  I disagree with the term "mediocre" though. The games aren't mediocre, they're great. The problem is they're all exactly the same. Even something great gets boring after twenty years.  Then again you could probably argue that Phantom Hourglass attempted to change things up and I hated that one, so who knows. Maybe we can just start with a Zelda game that doesn't have a god damn boomerang and move forward from there. "
 

To be fair, this mentality goes beyond Zelda. Pokemon's been pretty consistent, so have the Metroid games, the list goes on. Zelda follows this trend as well. I'd actually be curious on what new direction they could take a Zelda game, something along the lines of The Other M, which I'm assuming is going to play different than all the current Metroid games. "

Pokemon's main problem is it is unwilling to change, but the new setting and pokemon is the reason it is still playable as new games come out. You cant really change the whole metroidvania formula much, since thats what makes the genre so great to begin with.   Zelda has experamented but everyone just shit on their faces for it. Majoras Mask and Zelda 2 where unbelivably differnet, but they did not get accepted as much, even though there was some pure inovation and clever idea's in those games. That is why it pisses me off to see people say Zelda never changes "