Growing anger from community over release of Walking Dead ep 2

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#1 Edited by simonsays (41 posts) -

I pre-ordered my copy of Walking Dead from Telltale Games straight after they made it available, while there were issues via a delay on the telltale side, I recieved my first ep and was happy. However, two months on I am not so happy, Telltale have not released any information on an exact release for the second ep and people are getting pissed. Check out their facebook page (under top seller may 2012) and you will see a small slice of anger from customers that have been left in the dark after paying for a season pass and feel that Telltale haven't done anything to respond to this except to put up their episodes of Playing Dead, which has further infuriated the fanbase. I just wondered what others felt?

https://www.facebook.com/telltalegames

#2 Posted by Bocam (3742 posts) -

It's Telltale, this is to be expected. I do think they should not have charged the full price on PC though.

#3 Posted by Dagbiker (6976 posts) -

I dont really care, I will play it when they are all out.

#4 Posted by Revan_NL (340 posts) -

It could be worse. Valve announced back in 2006 that there would be 3 episodes for Half-Life 2...

#5 Posted by EquitasInvictus (2029 posts) -

It is kind of a bummer how impatiently entitled a lot of people are when it comes down to these things. Was it always like this? I feel like there was a time when fans were a lot more patient and behind developers.

#6 Posted by Bocam (3742 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus: On the PC you had to pay upfront for the episodes, they have a right to be mad. The others? Not so much.

#7 Posted by jking47 (1211 posts) -

I am gonna hold off on being angry till June is over. I do feel a little slighted, they were definitely misleading with the monthly release schedule stuff, but whatever companies do that shit all the time. But if July comes around and I do not have the game I paid for, yeah I am gonna be a little concerned.

#8 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (732 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus: Entitled? Fucking hell.

People may have bought this fully unaware of Telltale's usual release shenanigans and were expecting a monthly release cycle. It was advertised that these would be monthly. For those people, they've paid for goods that aren't being delivered.

How, exactly, is that being entitled? When I buy something with an expected delivery date, I kind of expect it to arrive. Delays happen, and Telltale haven't done a good job of getting the word out that this is happening.

#9 Edited by EquitasInvictus (2029 posts) -

@Bocam: I can understand the issue with regards to PC players, then. I was actually considering getting The Walking Dead on PC, too, but I convinced myself that I'd wait for all the episodes to be finished just because I wasn't really behind the whole waiting for the complete package episode by episode. I like to get things done in one shot when I can.

@dekkadekkadekka: Yeah I hadn't known the whole point about PC players having to pay for the all the episodes upfront until just now; their issue with telltale is justified in this case. My comment with regards to entitlement was more of a general comment with gaming nowadays, since it seems like a lot of gamers in general have been more outspoken about their dissatisfaction in cases that have been unfair to the developers.

#10 Posted by Zacagawea (1593 posts) -

I'm probably not going to be buying Ep. 2 because of this

#11 Posted by Bocam (3742 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus: I'm doing the exact same thing

#12 Edited by simonsays (41 posts) -

I have always bought the telltale games after the end of the season. This is the first and last where I bought it upfront. PC and PS3 gamers had to buy the season pass and it was only Xbox that got the opportunity to buy it episodically.

#13 Posted by EquitasInvictus (2029 posts) -

@dekkadekkadekka: Let me elaborate that my comment was with regards to gamers in general. It seems as if we've been a little outspoken about our dissatisfaction with developers to the extent where it isn't even constructive anymore. In this case, it isn't even July yet and the Telltale Games facebook is filled with comments of people up in arms. There's still 4 more days to June for them to usher out the actual release or an announcement about it.

I understand now that in this case some people actually paid for everything up front and it might be a reason for concern that it is almost July, but I still feel like it is too early to be admonishing Telltale outright like some people have been on their Facebook page.

#14 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@Revan_NL said:

It could be worse. Valve announced back in 2006 that there would be 3 episodes for Half-Life 2...

Cut them some slack, man. It's only been 6 years.

#15 Posted by TheSouthernDandy (3865 posts) -

Transparency would help a lot in this situation, if Telltale is behind they should say why, or at least make it known to the community that they're aware of concerns and are doing their best to resolve things.

I'm the first to shake my head at how entitled and unreasonable a lot of gamers are these days but PC gamers who paid for the game on the promise of a monthly release schedule I think have a right to be a little annoyed.

#16 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

I don't see how anyone on Giantbomb can be surprised by this considering the well known fact that Gary Whitta had barely started script for ep4 when the first episode was released. Most of the anger is coming from people who assumed the game was finished and they were just going to release it in episodes. Fact is, the episodes aren't done.

#17 Posted by OneManX (1693 posts) -

It's coming out this week... according to Telltale.

#18 Posted by Hosstile17 (763 posts) -

Games get delayed.

#19 Posted by spiceninja (3062 posts) -
#20 Posted by Jay_Ray (1098 posts) -

As long as the game is good I don't care if they miss the release date.

#21 Posted by RenMcKormack (1074 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus said:

It is kind of a bummer how impatiently entitled a lot of people are when it comes down to these things. Was it always like this? I feel like there was a time when fans were a lot more patient and behind developers.

When was this time?

#22 Posted by ajamafalous (11990 posts) -
@PlasmaBeam44 said:

Just confirmed that it's coming out tomorrow on Xbox 360 and Friday for PC and PS3. They've come in just under the wire.

Man, they sure squeezed that one in there at the last minute, huh. 
 
 
Like other people said, transparency helps a ton. A week/week and a half ago they should've said "Hey guys we're working really hard but we're not sure if we're going to be able to make it by the end of June, so just sit tight, it might slip to the first week or two of July" and everything would've been fucking fine. I honestly don't understand how companies don't understand this.
#23 Posted by EquitasInvictus (2029 posts) -

@RenMcKormack: I would say in the late 90s and early part of 2000s. Before EA swallowed a bunch of smaller developers up and they ran their own websites and communities. I remember those communities being a lot less angry!

Then again, this may be less of a problem with gamers-at-large as it is a problem with facebook and social media...

#24 Edited by laserbolts (5321 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus said:

It is kind of a bummer how impatiently entitled a lot of people are when it comes down to these things. Was it always like this? I feel like there was a time when fans were a lot more patient and behind developers.

There was also a time when there weren't seasons passes and as far as I can tell people were told they would get episodes at certain times. People paid for it so they have all the right to complain or be upset by telltale's complete lack of service. Entitiled is a word that is throw around way too much these days. Edited since have read that they will still get the episode out this month. Still feel telltale should update people on what is up more often.

#25 Posted by EquitasInvictus (2029 posts) -

@laserbolts: Yeah I hadn't realized until someone replied after that people actually had to pay for all the episodes upfront. I wasn't aware of that point, which would've justified some concern. It looks like Telltale is actually barely going to make it, anyway, too. Hopefully this isn't as big of an issue next month.

#26 Posted by Draugen (649 posts) -

@Revan_NL said:

It could be worse. Valve announced back in 2006 that there would be 3 episodes for Half-Life 2...

True, but they didn't charge for all three up front, did they? That's what makes TellTale's radio silence so iffy.

#27 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

It's coming out tomorrow you guys! Woo!

#28 Posted by killacam (1284 posts) -

shuuuuutttt uuuuuuuupppppppppppppppppp

#29 Posted by tonnous24 (43 posts) -

Batteries, how do they work?

#30 Posted by spiceninja (3062 posts) -
#31 Posted by Viking_Funeral (1785 posts) -
@EquitasInvictus I have a Pavlovian reaction to people using the word entitled these days. For some reasons I always instantly think of our PR department.
#32 Posted by Damian (1538 posts) -

@dekkadekkadekka said:

@EquitasInvictus: Entitled? Fucking hell.

People may have bought this fully unaware of Telltale's usual release shenanigans and were expecting a monthly release cycle. It was advertised that these would be monthly. For those people, they've paid for goods that aren't being delivered.

How, exactly, is that being entitled? When I buy something with an expected delivery date, I kind of expect it to arrive. Delays happen, and Telltale haven't done a good job of getting the word out that this is happening.

That's just it. Gamers, but especially the enthusiast press has twisted the word entitled to being an insult. It's not. Sometimes people simply are in fact entitled to what they pay for. A "false sense of entitlement" and actual entitlement are separate things that have now been blurred.

So I just wish we'd stop using the word altogether for a while :/

#33 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5144 posts) -

@Revan_NL said:

It could be worse. Valve announced back in 2006 that there would be 3 episodes for Half-Life 2...

But you didn't pay for Episode 3.

#34 Posted by Kidavenger (3546 posts) -

I'd much rather have a good game late than a shitty game on time.

#35 Posted by sub_o (899 posts) -

@EquitasInvictus said:

It is kind of a bummer how impatiently entitled a lot of people are when it comes down to these things. Was it always like this? I feel like there was a time when fans were a lot more patient and behind developers.

I guess people are more and more entitled nowadays. Not sure why, is it because work pressure seeping into personal life ? Or lack of compassion and people stop wearing others' shoes ?

Be patient, there are certifications, testing, etc. I would rather wait than to get a hastily created product just for profit. Plus it's also a delayed gratification !

#36 Posted by supamon (1333 posts) -

@Mr_Skeleton said:

@Revan_NL said:

It could be worse. Valve announced back in 2006 that there would be 3 episodes for Half-Life 2...

But you didn't pay for Episode 3.

In our hearts we did. Also it still bums me out every time someone mentions episode 3 or Half-Life 3.

#37 Posted by sixpin (1291 posts) -

Man I'm tired of the word entitled. I'm also tired of everyone freaking out about things not going exactly how they expect, in the exact time frame that they wanted. In general the negativity is a bummer. When people are constantly bickering it gets in the way and is generally written off as more noise. Real issues that could be brought up in a more constructive manner (retailer specific DLC for example) get tossed out with the dish water far too often.

Anyway... Episode 2 hits XBLA tomorrow and I'm pretty happy about that.

#38 Posted by TheHBK (5482 posts) -

When will gamers just admit they did something stupid and paid for a game before it was even out or being made? Don't preorder stuff or in this case prepay. Simple. You exchange money for goods and services, not promises.

#39 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7096 posts) -

@Jay_Ray said:

As long as the game is good I don't care if they miss the release date.

Agreed. Especially with the release of Dawnguard and the ME3 DLC today, there's been plenty of stuff to play lately while waiting for Walkind Dead Episode 2. It sucks it was delayed but I would prefer they miss their window of release than push out a shitty or broken product.

#40 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4912 posts) -

@Phatmac said:

It's coming out tomorrow you guys! Woo!

Yeah for 360. PS3 and PC Friday, which is total bullshit.

#41 Posted by lightsoda (541 posts) -

Let them finish it, rather than release a crappy game.

#42 Posted by Rudeboy217 (1769 posts) -

I'm not tripping about it.

#43 Posted by jozzy (2042 posts) -

I agree that patience is a virtue, but the anger was (I wouldn't call myself angry but I was disappointed) not specifically because they are late, but more about the way Telltale handled it all. I think it boils down to 2 things:

* It is either really amateuristic or deceptive to not at least have the first two or three episodes ready (or as good as ready) when you release the first episode of a monthly episode game

* They didn't communicate at all about the delay, they just pretended nothing was out of the ordinary

Anyhow, awesome that it will be out on friday for the pc.

#44 Posted by Milkman (16779 posts) -

I don't get the anger. As long as the episodes are good, who cares when they come out? Let them take as much time as they want.

#45 Posted by Irvandus (2878 posts) -

It's Tell Tale, everyone expects it. Only people getting mad are people who are new to the rodeo.

#46 Posted by Roland_D11 (190 posts) -

@jozzy:

" It is either really amateuristic or deceptive to not at least have the first two or three episodes ready (or as good as ready) when you release the first episode of a monthly episode game"

No, it is just the way Telltale works. That way they can actually listen to feedback to the previous episodes and fix bugs that came up after release. They did that with every episodic game they put out and it helped to improve the quality during a season.

#47 Posted by Kidavenger (3546 posts) -

@jozzy said:

* It is either really amateuristic or deceptive to not at least have the first two or three episodes ready (or as good as ready) when you release the first episode of a monthly episode game

I honestly think the game's popularity took Telltale by surprise and they spent extra time beefing up the game.

Based on the achievement data on this site, Walking Dead is far and away the best selling game Telltale has ever had and it hasn't been out that long / never been on sale; I wouldn't be surprised if they made a retail release for this game once all 5 episodes are done to go with the start of the next season of the TV show.

#48 Posted by CosmicQueso (569 posts) -

But... but... they're making their schedule. Oh, forum dwellers just bitching to bitch? Got it.

#49 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

@pornstorestiffi: It is. I'm sure you can wait a couple of days no?

#50 Posted by Oscar__Explosion (2290 posts) -

It comes out tomorrow on xbla and friday of pc/ps3

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