The Walking Dead: Season 2, do you want to play as Clementine?

Posted by Reisz (1522 posts) 1 year, 30 days ago

Poll: The Walking Dead: Season 2, do you want to play as Clementine? (97 votes)

Clementine! Definitely. 43%
Clementine? Maybe, if the writing holds up. 34%
Clementine?! Are you serious? No way! 15%
I don't play your sissy pants text adventures. 7%

With the first big details on Telltale's TWD Season two, we now know the story will continue to follow Clementine. Except this time around she is presumably left to fend for herself as the main character.

Responses seem mixed, I feel like playing as Clementine will provide an opportunity to reallly differentiate the two seasons, it certainly demands a different emotional approach from players. With the winter segment from The Last of Us being one of my personal highlights of this year, I'm really interested in seeing this world from Clementine's perspective.

So what about the rest of you?

#1 Posted by SpunkyHePanda (1720 posts) -

Absolutely. Though I think it would be cooler if she were older.

#2 Posted by MightyDuck (1524 posts) -

As long as the writing holds up, I'm up for whatever Tell Tale has in store for us.

#3 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4870 posts) -

No. Clementine belonged firmly in the first season. I don't think either Lee or Clementine would work independently.

#4 Posted by HappyCheeze (101 posts) -

I think it will be cool to see the game from Clem's perspective. It will be interesting to hear her monologuing about the world.

#5 Posted by Hunter5024 (5912 posts) -

Unlike a lot of the comments I've read, I think it would have been pretty pointless not to continue the story of the first season. Otherwise we would have just had another zombie story. I wish more time had passed between the last season and this one though. I'm not really sure how I feel about playing as her either, especially considering she's still so young.

#6 Edited by Random45 (1267 posts) -

I really wish they would have just gotten a new cast of characters. I felt that Lee and Clem's story ended so well with the last game, and I like the idea of just leaving it up to the viewer to decide Clementine's fate. I'm apparently in a minority when it comes to this opinion though, which is a bummer. :(

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#7 Posted by BeachThunder (12307 posts) -

Always!

#8 Posted by Funkydupe (3321 posts) -

I'd prefer to be a character she traveled with instead, but hey.

#9 Posted by ManMadeGod (1584 posts) -

She was vital for the massive success of the first season, it wouldn't make sense to ditch her.

#10 Posted by GorillaMoPena (2290 posts) -

I want to play whatever they make for season 2.

#11 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

i LOVED the first game. But well i dont know why but i'm not really excited for this at all.

Clem by herself isn't all that interesting, it was her dynamic and relationship with Lee that made it awesome.

#12 Posted by Gruebacca (569 posts) -

I have confidence that this will be solid. They're mixing it up, and that's cool.

#13 Edited by Funkydupe (3321 posts) -

@manmadegod said:

She was vital for the massive success of the first season, it wouldn't make sense to ditch her.

Only now she's not the vulnerable, unpredictable but surprisingly clever little child she was in the first season. Now she's a character controlled directly by the gamer. Does that hurt her appeal with the masses, I wonder. I agree with the OP that this is going to feel a lot different.

@clonedzero: Yes, the player's role was established as Lee from the very beginning of the game and going from the "parent/protector" role to actually playing as the girl will be different, and I'm not sure yet if its the right move by them. But we'll see.

#14 Edited by Zeik (2673 posts) -

I remember being hesitant about the idea when it was suggested right after Season 1 ended, but during the lead up to this announcement I was feeling really indifferent toward playing Season 2. The Clementine reveal actually reignited my interest in playing the Walking Dead, so I think they made the right call.

They could have done a new cast of characters unrelated to season 1, but I can't help but feel like it would end up going through the same basic motions with the same basic character archetypes. I think the reason playing Clementine got me a bit more excited because there's a much better chance it will mix things up with a unique perspective.

#15 Posted by Nightriff (5260 posts) -

No, I've always felt that they should be separate except maybe hints and nods to each other. I am less interested in Season 2 now.

#16 Posted by jimmyfenix (3859 posts) -

Yes.

#17 Edited by Encephalon (1318 posts) -

Sure. I think it''ll be exciting to see how Clem develops as a character with more direct agency.

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#18 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19377 posts) -

As long as the story holds up and it's not some kind of weird fanservice.

#19 Posted by yinstarrunner (1234 posts) -

I like the idea of the Walking Dead continuing to follow Clem, but only if she doesn't become the player character.

Think about it. The thing everybody loved about Clem was how it felt like Lee was really raising her, to strengthen her and make her the type of person that could survive in a zombie-infested world. It was interesting because a lot of the things you did in front of her had implications for her future.

I feel like a lot of that impact could be lost if you just allow the player to control every action she makes. If so, then what was the point of having Lee there at all? How will she apply those lessons to tough decisions in front of her? How will she exhibit what she has learned? How will she have changed as a person? If you give the player authorship over that, it becomes way less compelling.

I'd love her to return. I'd love her to become the "main character" of the Telltale Walking Dead series as a whole. I'd love to grow up with her, and make decisions that could have deep repercussions for her. But I don't want to control her.

Of course, I'm sure the season will be great either way. Telltale is really good. But if I had to do it, that's what I would do. And then kill her off at some point to make everybody pissed at me.

#20 Posted by davidwitten22 (1708 posts) -

"I don't play your sissy pants text adventures. (Your vote)" This was the closest to my feelings, though not being true at all. It's not that I don't want to play as Clementine in the next Walking Dead Game, it's just that I don't really want to play another Walking Dead game. The first one was one of the best blind purchases I have ever made and it did exactly what it wanted to do. I felt for the characters, I teared up at the end, it was great.

I don't want to do it again. Not everything needs to have a sequel. I liked how the story was wrapped up, and the announcement and everything surrounding 800 days had me incredibly uninterested (so much so that I have yet to play it).

But that's just my opinion.

#21 Edited by YoThatLimp (1933 posts) -

@random45 said:

I really wish they would have just gotten a new cast of characters. I felt that Lee and Clem's story ended so well with the last game, and I like the idea of just leaving it up to the viewer to decide Clementine's fate. I'm apparently in a minority when it comes to this opinion though, which is a bummer. :(

Yeah, I know it is kind of leaving easy money on the table but i was hoping they'd go bold and do a new story for season 2.

#22 Posted by Zeik (2673 posts) -

@yinstarrunner: I actually thinks that's way more of a valid argument for making her the player character over not. With her under the control of the player you can make sure she stays within the context of how you feel she would have developed after season 1. Of course, you would still be able to go outside those lines if you chose (and ideally the game would be able to recognize that), but that's the players choice.

If it's simply left up to the writers alone to write her role in the story there's next to no chance they would be able to write her in a way that would factor in every decision you made in season 1 and every player's personal viewpoint on how that would affect her. Even if their system for applying consequences to choices was way way more complex and could actually factor in all that stuff from season 1, the amount of variable writing that would require would be ridiculous.

#23 Edited by yinstarrunner (1234 posts) -

@zeik: I disagree. First off, everything I've said has been under the assumption they even let you import your save from the first game. If not, then it's all out the window.

I don't think it would be too hard to insert some alternate line readings every once in a while, just a little here and there. Subtlety does speak volumes, and you can still continuing building the character around the broad strokes of the happenings in the first season. Maybe throw in a couple instances where she would make different decisions based on what she had learned from Lee. It could be a little tricky, of course, but that's what the Walking Dead was all about anyway: tricking the player into thinking their choices have more impact than they did. I think I could do it. And if I can, I'm sure Telltale could.

Secondly, I just love the idea of creating another character through your actions. I don't think games really explore this type of storytelling too often. Understand that people are inherently a little chaotic; storms of emotion predicated on perceptions of events that, in turn, influence longer habits and worldview. I find the premise of trying to influence someone, in subtle and not-so-subtle ways over a long period of time, to be much more interesting and unique than just letting someone take complete control of her. To do so would be to intentionally calm the growth of a young person, and allow the player to craft her into their perfect vision, instead of a more interesting, flawed version of the person they want her to be.

But hey, this is just my opinion, and I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well.

#24 Edited by Zeik (2673 posts) -

@yinstarrunner: Edit: Arrrgh, why do you keep posting blank messages Giantbomb? I don't want to type all that over again! :(

(I'm just going to leave gist of it.) Trying to carry over too many choices from season 1 is bad. That was what Mass Effect tried and did wrong. Having the player dynamically decide what those choices meant within season 2 is a smarter approach.

#25 Posted by Milkman (17204 posts) -

If it was an entirely new cast of characters, everyone would just be comparing them to the season 1 characters. I was going to play this no matter but I think this is definitely the best way to go. The idea that she is now carrying some of the traits and lessons that you (as Lee) taught her in season 1 sounds really interesting.

#26 Posted by Sparky_Buzzsaw (6357 posts) -

I'd be most fascinated by multiple perspectives and protagonists/antagonists to act through, but I think she's a strong enough character I wouldn't mind seeing her as the focus.

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#27 Edited by ArbitraryWater (12008 posts) -

I question if I want to play another season of The Walking Dead at all. For as good as that first season really is, I doubt Telltale will be able to make lightning strike twice, either just for me or for players as a whole. To be fair, I'm also incredibly sick of Zombie stuff at this point and that first season might have been what broke me.

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#28 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6401 posts) -

I want an entirely new cast of characters.

#29 Posted by sixnahalf (50 posts) -

yeah agree with Godly hoping for a new cast to be seen on the TWD. :D

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