When You Were Given This Dialogue Option What Did You Pick?

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#1 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -


#2 Edited by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

So this dialogue option between Lee and Clem really got to me. I didn't tear up. But it did get to me. So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone? I just want to see how many good versus monsters we have here on the site and how everyone else felt about this option.

EDIT:

Heh, I forgot "Don't be afraid." was an option. But to me that sounded like a lie. She needed her fear to keep her safe. But you're not a monster if you chose that option.

...just wrong.

#3 Posted by spankingaddict (2678 posts) -

A

#4 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@spankingaddict said:

A

Right?

#5 Posted by Meepasaurus (218 posts) -

I wasn't feeling that sad about the ending until that choice came up (I think I had gotten numb to all the crazy shit in this game after the end of Episode 3). Just had to pick it. :(

#6 Edited by laserbolts (5324 posts) -

I think I picked don't be afraid? I think that was an option. I don't think that makes me a monster though. Didn't want Clem to feel any more worse than she already did.

#7 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19354 posts) -

I told her that she was strong or don't be afraid. Either one that was there.

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#8 Edited by BeachThunder (11994 posts) -

@SuperJoe said:

I chose "Don't be afraid" for this option, after which she holds your hand, as well as all the other answers that gave Clementine advice. I chose not to waste a bullet on me because "killing changes you", told her to "always get the gun first", "stay away from cities", and "don't trust anyone". I was pretty much preparing her for the worst.

This is pretty much how I went too :P

Edit: BTW, I felt that "I'll miss you" was a little too fatalistic; to me, "don't be afraid" seemed a lot more encouraging.

#9 Posted by MysteriousFawx (383 posts) -

I wanted to leave her with a strong message to make her more likely to survive, I didn't want her to dwell on Lees sacrifice for the rest of her travels. I picked 'don't be afraid' and had her shoot me in the head....my little girl, all grown up for the big world.

#10 Posted by beard_of_zeus (1689 posts) -

@MysteriousFawx said:

I wanted to leave her with a strong message to make her more likely to survive, I didn't want her to dwell on Lees sacrifice for the rest of her travels. I picked 'don't be afraid' and had her shoot me in the head....my little girl, all grown up for the big world.

Yup, exactly the same here, for the same reasons. It's not like I didn't miss her...but I wanted to make sure she would make it out alive by making her strong.

#11 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

I actually called that this is how the game would end back in the Episode 4 spoiler thread, after giving Clem the gun training I just had a feeling this was how it was going to end. I should write this stuff =)

#12 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone?

That seems like a pretty selfish thing to do, why waste the last moment you have to give advice? Why play on the empathy of someone who is moments from having to shoot you in the head? Why say "I'll miss you" when you're about to die and the other party is going to continue on? Crazy talk!

Because she was nine and we had a good relationship! Gah!

#13 Posted by Kerned (1170 posts) -

I told her to never be afraid. I felt that telling her I'd miss her would make it tougher for her to do what she needed to do. But it was a tough decision. Real, real tough.

#14 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone?

That seems like a pretty selfish thing to do, why waste the last moment you have to give advice? Why play on the empathy of someone who is moments from having to shoot you in the head? Why say "I'll miss you" when you're about to die and the other party is going to continue on? Crazy talk!

Because she was nine and we had a good relationship! Gah!

She should not be able to sneak through a town full of zombies while heaving and whining and blowing snot-bubbles. I always viewed Lee's job as being preparing that girl to survive on her own, so I had no compulsion to pick the sentimental option.

I felt like Lee was a surrogate Dad. So, to me, he needed to teach her how to survive but he also needs her to know that he cares for her. I also had her shot Lee because I felt it would toughen her up so that she could make hard decisions. I always felt Lee needed to walk that line between preparing Clem and showing her love like I feel her real Dad would have in that situation.

#15 Posted by Sparklykiss (1968 posts) -

I had picked the "I'll miss you" option because I was already a bit of a weak and blubbering mess. I was not prepared to let this all go yet.

I had Clem take out Lee as well, but upon reflection that seems like the really selfish option. Like made I should have had her save that bullet for when she'd be caught in a pickle later. And to save her some trauma. I'm not sure what choice was truly best there.

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#16 Posted by Kerned (1170 posts) -

@Sparklykiss: The main reason I had her shoot me is because I was afraid something would happen (Lee would get loose, Clem would come near him, etc.) and she would get hurt. The idea of Clem getting hurt was so much worse than anything else.

#17 Posted by Ryuku_Ryosake (213 posts) -

What is wrong with you people? Am I the only one that pick "You're strong"? Choosing "I'll miss you" would only make it harder on Clem and really doesn't need saying. Choosing "Don't be afraid" makes more since it is both comforting and teaches a lesson but in the Walking Dead world the moment you stop being afraid is the moment you die. So clearly "You're Strong" is the only right choice. The final message of you can do this and you can do anything, always keep on the move, and if you run into Crista and Omid they're good people.

#18 Posted by Sparklykiss (1968 posts) -

@Kerned: I thought about that as well. Like if she had a moment of weakness and held on to Lee and him biting her or something. But that was a hefty call. I feel like I really choked when I told her I'd miss her. I think that could really take a toll on her emotionally since she just saw her parents in the street and all.

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#19 Posted by Encephalon (1268 posts) -

I said something like "You'll be okay."

I didn't want the last words I said to Clem to be about me. I wanted to propel her forward into the trials ahead, instead of have her dwell on Lee, her dead happenstance caretaker.

I will miss her, though. :(

#20 Posted by eskimo (477 posts) -

I chose "Don't be afraid", because Lee wouldnt miss her, being dead and all.

I also had her shoot me because it would help her be strong enough to survive.

#21 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone?

That seems like a pretty selfish thing to do, why waste the last moment you have to give advice? Why play on the empathy of someone who is moments from having to shoot you in the head? Why say "I'll miss you" when you're about to die and the other party is going to continue on? Crazy talk!

Because she was nine and we had a good relationship! Gah!

She should not be able to sneak through a town full of zombies while heaving and whining and blowing snot-bubbles. I always viewed Lee's job as being preparing that girl to survive on her own, so I had no compulsion to pick the sentimental option.

I felt like Lee was a surrogate Dad. So, to me, he needed to teach her how to survive but he also needs her to know that he cares for her. I also had her shot Lee because I felt it would toughen her up so that she could make hard decisions. I always felt Lee needed to walk that line between preparing Clem and showing her love like I feel her real Dad would have in that situation.

...but he's not her father and we always knew that there was going to be a definite end to their relationship. While I always had Lee look after Clem I didn't think it was the right option, or even a viable option, to make that situation more stressful or emotional than it already was. I used all of my dialog options at the end on practical advice.

I don't know. Maybe it's my naive self but I always tried to play Lee as someone who is still in touch with his humanity but wasn't afraid to do dirt when it was needed. I think telling Clem "I'll miss you." but then having her kill Lee before he turns keeps her in touch with her emotions as well toughens her up for the hard life she now will have to lead. Telling her 'don't be afraid' is a lie. Her fear will keep her safe. Telling her that Lee cared for her and that he'll miss her keeps her human.

#22 Posted by Random45 (1214 posts) -

I remember picking "You're Strong."

Why not? She has grown a lot since the first episode, and I want her to know that I have confidence in her that she will survive. Why would you say "I'll miss you"? I think it goes without saying that they both loved each other a lot, and it's obvious that they will miss each other.

#23 Posted by bkbroiler (1628 posts) -

I picked the "It'll be okay" option for the same reason a few other people have said in this topic. "I'll miss you" is the worst, most selfish answer to me. What a shitty thing to say to someone right before you die.

#24 Posted by AndrewB (7637 posts) -

I was torn between the "It'll be okay" and "I'll miss you," but fuck, the correct answer ("I'll miss you") came from the heart. "It'll be okay" is a reassuring lie. Though "I'll miss you" leaves forever-etched emotional scars on a digital character and on me...

#25 Posted by Laiv162560asse (487 posts) -

@Ryuku_Ryosake said:

What is wrong with you people? Am I the only one that pick "You're strong"? Choosing "I'll miss you" would only make it harder on Clem and really doesn't need saying. Choosing "Don't be afraid" makes more since it is both comforting and teaches a lesson but in the Walking Dead world the moment you stop being afraid is the moment you die. So clearly "You're Strong" is the only right choice.

I definitely said both "You're strong" and "Don't be afraid" to her, so those are separate dialogue moments.

#26 Posted by Technocide (4 posts) -

Number A.

#27 Posted by Nev (551 posts) -

I told her I'd miss her. That may have been chosen more as my own personal thoughts, over what I really felt Lee would say. I will miss that character... hopefully she appears in future seasons, but probably not.

#28 Edited by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone?

That seems like a pretty selfish thing to do, why waste the last moment you have to give advice? Why play on the empathy of someone who is moments from having to shoot you in the head? Why say "I'll miss you" when you're about to die and the other party is going to continue on? Crazy talk!

Because she was nine and we had a good relationship! Gah!

She should not be able to sneak through a town full of zombies while heaving and whining and blowing snot-bubbles. I always viewed Lee's job as being preparing that girl to survive on her own, so I had no compulsion to pick the sentimental option.

I felt like Lee was a surrogate Dad. So, to me, he needed to teach her how to survive but he also needs her to know that he cares for her. I also had her shot Lee because I felt it would toughen her up so that she could make hard decisions. I always felt Lee needed to walk that line between preparing Clem and showing her love like I feel her real Dad would have in that situation.

...but he's not her father and we always knew that there was going to be a definite end to their relationship. While I always had Lee look after Clem I didn't think it was the right option, or even a viable option, to make that situation more stressful or emotional than it already was. I used all of my dialog options at the end on practical advice.

I don't know. Maybe it's my naive self but I always tried to play Lee as someone who is still in touch with his humanity but wasn't afraid to do dirt when it was needed. I think telling Clem "I'll miss you." but then having her kill Lee before he turns keeps her in touch with her emotions as well toughens her up for the hard life she now will have to lead. Telling her 'don't be afraid' is a lie. Her fear will keep her safe. Telling her that Lee cared for her and that he'll miss her keeps her human.

To me, "I'll miss you" seems self-indulgent. Especially when you consider that she's about to have to shoot you in the head. That's a scenario that I would balk at subjecting a grown person to, I can't really imagine what a child would do with those two pieces of information. I'll miss you, now kill me.

I don't recall which of the other options I picked but neither were ideal. Still, your view of those options probably depends on how you perceive that Clementine has progressed over the course of the game. I kind of feel that the Clementines who suffered the "I'll miss you" moment would probably turn out to be zombie chow or emotionally scarred psychopaths :p My Clem could beat up your Clem, etc.

Your Clem would be an unfeeling sociopath. MY Clem would be a level-headed badass.

#29 Posted by AndrewB (7637 posts) -

@Laivasse said:

I definitely said both "You're strong" and "Don't be afraid" to her, so those are separate dialogue moments.

Moi aussi. I think the line "You're strong now!" (or something to the effect) came up earlier.

#30 Edited by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

@AndrewB said:

@Laivasse said:

I definitely said both "You're strong" and "Don't be afraid" to her, so those are separate dialogue moments.

Moi aussi. I think the line "You're strong now!" (or something to the effect) came up earlier.

It did. It was right after she beat the zombie's head in with a bat.

EDIT:

I'm also not really clear how telling her "I'll miss you." was selfish. I mean it reflects Lee's emotions regarding Clem. It tells Clem that he cared for her and he's said that they can't be together anymore. Those emotions don't just up and disappear because the world is falling apart. The girl still needs to have emotions and be aware of them otherwise she'll just fucking fall apart. Telling Clem goodbye puts a bow on that relationship. No loose ends. To me that would keep her from feeling as if that relationship was never fully complete. "I'll miss you." is a good ending to an important relationship and now Clem can move on.

#31 Posted by bkbroiler (1628 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

@rebgav said:

@JasonR86 said:

So I can't imagine that anyone didn't pick "I'll miss you." unless they are a monster or were intentionally playing a weird/bad character because come on. Who wouldn't say that to a nine year old girl who's about to be left alone?

That seems like a pretty selfish thing to do, why waste the last moment you have to give advice? Why play on the empathy of someone who is moments from having to shoot you in the head? Why say "I'll miss you" when you're about to die and the other party is going to continue on? Crazy talk!

Because she was nine and we had a good relationship! Gah!

She should not be able to sneak through a town full of zombies while heaving and whining and blowing snot-bubbles. I always viewed Lee's job as being preparing that girl to survive on her own, so I had no compulsion to pick the sentimental option.

I felt like Lee was a surrogate Dad. So, to me, he needed to teach her how to survive but he also needs her to know that he cares for her. I also had her shot Lee because I felt it would toughen her up so that she could make hard decisions. I always felt Lee needed to walk that line between preparing Clem and showing her love like I feel her real Dad would have in that situation.

...but he's not her father and we always knew that there was going to be a definite end to their relationship. While I always had Lee look after Clem I didn't think it was the right option, or even a viable option, to make that situation more stressful or emotional than it already was. I used all of my dialog options at the end on practical advice.

I don't know. Maybe it's my naive self but I always tried to play Lee as someone who is still in touch with his humanity but wasn't afraid to do dirt when it was needed. I think telling Clem "I'll miss you." but then having her kill Lee before he turns keeps her in touch with her emotions as well toughens her up for the hard life she now will have to lead. Telling her 'don't be afraid' is a lie. Her fear will keep her safe. Telling her that Lee cared for her and that he'll miss her keeps her human.

To me, "I'll miss you" seems self-indulgent. Especially when you consider that she's about to have to shoot you in the head. That's a scenario that I would balk at subjecting a grown person to, I can't really imagine what a child would do with those two pieces of information. I'll miss you, now kill me.

I don't recall which of the other options I picked but neither were ideal. Still, your view of those options probably depends on how you perceive that Clementine has progressed over the course of the game. I kind of feel that the Clementines who suffered the "I'll miss you" moment would probably turn out to be zombie chow or emotionally scarred psychopaths :p My Clem could beat up your Clem, etc.

Your Clem would be an unfeeling sociopath. MY Clem would be a level-headed badass.

Well my Clem was in the army and could beat up your Clem any day of the week!

#32 Posted by JasonR86 (9715 posts) -

I like how we're all calling her Lee's name for her 'Clem'. When you really think about it it is really dumb how attached we all seem to have been to this character in this game.

#33 Posted by Hadoken101 (796 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

I like how we're all calling her Lee's name for her 'Clem'. When you really think about it it is really dumb how attached we all seem to have been to this character in this game.

I wouldn't say that was Lee's name for her, pretty much everyone at some point calls her that. Now if we were all calling her Sweet Pea, well... actually that would be weird.

#34 Posted by IzzyGraze (850 posts) -

@Ryuku_Ryosake said:

What is wrong with you people? Am I the only one that pick "You're strong"? Choosing "I'll miss you" would only make it harder on Clem and really doesn't need saying. Choosing "Don't be afraid" makes more since it is both comforting and teaches a lesson but in the Walking Dead world the moment you stop being afraid is the moment you die. So clearly "You're Strong" is the only right choice. The final message of you can do this and you can do anything, always keep on the move, and if you run into Crista and Omid they're good people.

I picked the "you're strong" option or it might of been "You'll be alright". She was going to shoot me in the face, so saying "I'll miss you" seemed like a dick move. I wanted her to feel good about herself and capable in a world where she was alone.

#35 Posted by jmood88 (394 posts) -

@Ryuku_Ryosake said:

What is wrong with you people? Am I the only one that pick "You're strong"? Choosing "I'll miss you" would only make it harder on Clem and really doesn't need saying. Choosing "Don't be afraid" makes more since it is both comforting and teaches a lesson but in the Walking Dead world the moment you stop being afraid is the moment you die. So clearly "You're Strong" is the only right choice. The final message of you can do this and you can do anything, always keep on the move, and if you run into Crista and Omid they're good people.

I don't think you're given those choices at the same time. At the very least, you can tell her that she's strong earlier, which is what I did, then picked "I'll miss you" for the last dialogue option.

#36 Posted by spankingaddict (2678 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@spankingaddict said:

A

Right?

Just letting everyone know that I choose option A. on your poll . :P

#37 Posted by Quid_Pro_Bono (288 posts) -

@JasonR86: Yeah, I was sad and wanted to say I missed her but that didn't help HER in the slightest. She knows I'll miss her.

#38 Posted by KyleSellers (21 posts) -

I believe there was an option to say "You'll be okay" or "You'll be fine." I chose that because I wanted her to have the last minute reassurance/confidence boost in case she felt like facing the world on her own was a hopeless proposition

#39 Posted by benspyda (2035 posts) -

A. Followed by sobbing. Man that ending...

#40 Edited by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

"You'll be okay." Gotta boost whatever spirit the poor girl has left.

#41 Edited by LackingSaint (1818 posts) -

I picked "Don't be afraid." I miss you would just emotionally destroy Clementine, and I never wanted to do that. Don't be afraid gives closure and reaffirms a huge theme of everything i've been teaching Clem; don't deny the horrors of the world, but don't let them change you.

#42 Posted by pandorasbox (303 posts) -

I shed a fucking tear during this sequence. I picked "don't be scared" or whatever it was.

#43 Posted by golguin (3940 posts) -

I went with "Don't be afraid." The way I see it the situation was already hard enough without telling Clem that I would miss her right before I had her shoot me. I told her that "we learned not to be afraid" in episode 3 when she couldn't shoot the walker so it made sense to reinforce that point since I wouldn't be around to protect her anymore. I had already told her she was strong in an option right before that to reassure her that she could survive and that she had to let me go.

#44 Posted by Baillie (4195 posts) -

@JasonR86:

#45 Edited by LackingSaint (1818 posts) -

The only bad option I can really say from the four is "You'll be okay". It's such a blatant lie and does nothing to reinforce the relationship that Lee and Clem have built over the last few games. Even "..." has some merit because it's making it easier for her not talking before she has to kill you.

#46 Posted by Ramone (2972 posts) -

I picked "I'll miss you" because it was true goddammit. *Breaks down in tears*

#47 Posted by Lukeweizer (2692 posts) -

"Don't be afraid". I wanted her to feel as safe and confident as possible.

#48 Edited by Chtasm (452 posts) -
  • "Don't be afraid." Don't let your emotions take precedence over the situation. A final bit of advice.
  • "You'll be okay." Nothing is going to be sunshine and rainbows anymore, but Lee may think she's ready to deal with it. A vote for confidence in her ability.
  • "I'll miss you." Appeal to her heart rather than her head and multiply the effect by making her leave you to die/shoot you. No good for her future in the wastes.
  • "..." Jackass4lyfe.

I felt it went without saying that they're obviously going to miss each other, so I didn't go with that. My Lee wanted her to stay strong throughout and was trying to get her ready for the world til the end. I went with "Afraid," but an "Okay" is fine, too.

#49 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4370 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

I told her that she was strong or don't be afraid. Either one that was there.

#50 Posted by CornBREDX (5383 posts) -

I picked "Don't be afraid." How is that a lie?  
I'm not telling her she wont be afraid, I'm telling her to stay strong and not be afraid. 
How does that make me a monster? Saying "I'll miss you" makes no sense if you're dead/dying! I won't miss you if I'm dead. I won't have any feeling on the matter. 
 
haha, this thread is silly.

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