Here's my theory so far:

As for someone who has been reading the books and graphic novels since 02, The story has some really interesting things happening that correlate from the game. Obviously Snow doesn't stay dead, but as for how she comes back is beyond me at this point. I thought the whole Grendel getting his arm ripped off ( If you did it) was a great Easter Egg/Trope to Beowulf.

The game for me so far is surpassing TellTales Walking Dead, Simply because I feel a bit more connected with the characters here, maybe because I've been reading their stories for so long? I'm sure everyone here agrees that they actually really care about every little decision they make in this story.

Also, I highly suggest anyone who lost Prince Lawrence, to go back and save him before going to Toads. There is literally no penalty for making Toad wait and you get an awesome chase sequence with Tweedle Dee. I feel like Lawrence will play a strong emotional link in the game in the future. If you guys have any questions into more of the lore or the books and don't feel like reading them feel free to ask away.

@nsnebs said:

Retroactively choosing the "right" decisions would defeat the purpose of making any decisions in the first place for me. I've made my bed, now I have to lie in it.

Holy hell, I didnt have high expectations for this, but telltale definitely hit it out of the park. For one, this game is fucking great looking (on PC anyway); the style is hot as hell. And I really am digging the story so far. I definitely didnt see snow whites death coming, and am I actually feeling kind of shitty about it; really liked her character.

Question: Can a game that isn't fully released be counted as a game of the year contender? Ehh, I still liked the last of us better, but I still have 4 other episodes of this to see.

I didn't like it at first. But by the end I wanted more. Fantastic. Those two hours flew right by.

• Gave Faith Money
• Lied to Beast
• Toads
• Prince died
• Bluebeard is my suspect
• Tweedledee

Can't wait for the next episode.

Not familiar with the comic at all. LOVED the first episode. Will wait until the game is finished and maybe pick up some trades.

Played on PS3 and still hitched a bit here and there... that's the ONE thing telltale really needs to fix.

I was silent on who I suspected because my choice, Icabod, wasn't there!

It's that ginger fuck that keeps showing up. He's walking across the building when you first get out of the cab at the beginning of the game. You bump into him when Snow goes get you at your apartment. He's in line outside Icabod's office and finally he's the person pinned underneath the couch you have lift up when chasing Tweedle Dee. On top of that, I believe you are being framed and things you do throughout the first episode will work against you. Like giving Faith money, putting the phone back on the hook, picking up the bullet at the apartment, among many others, could potentially be used as evidence against you. I'M ONTO YOU GINGER(bread?) MAN!

I wish I had arrested the Woodsman. I couldn't decide who I wanted and at the last second I picked Tweedle Dee because I thought less people would go for him, so I would at least get an interesting perspective on that. And that wasn't even the case.

Poor Snow White. She was a really awesome character.

Really enjoyed my time with it. The characters, atmosphere, and concept all had that feeling of "man, it would be cool to exist in that place" that I rarely get from video games, books, or movies.

Glad I'm playing on PC. No technical problems so far, unlike the shitshow that was TWD on Xbox.

@amonkey: I agree completely, I guess I mean go back on another save file and see how the preview goes with Prince lawrence alive. It's interesting.

Absolutely fantastic. Graphically it's just so beautiful, and makes TWD look like smeared shit by comparison. I'm digging it all so far, from the characters, to the look, to the mature script, to the dark-fantasy twist on so many classic characters, to the slightly more involved action QTE's... I couldn't say just yet that I like Wolf over TWD, but it most definitely had a better opening episode to kick it all off! God, and such atmosphere... Has a real noir styling to it all, and I can't wait for the next one.

If the whole thing would have been made available within the year, and of course if it managed to keep the same degree of quality across each episode, then this could have potentially taken my GOTY spot. It's been love at first sight for me with this.

Anywhoo, choices:

Didn't give Faith the money.

I think that was my own instincts kicking in... Being a poor sod has made me a cheap asshole, so I decided to keep my money for myself. Once she died I figured the game probably wanted me to feel guilty about not giving her money, which could have contributed to her death, but I also knew for sure that she would have died regardless so... I didn't feel too bad in the end.

Lied to Beast.

I dunno, Beauty looked like she was in some trouble and I figured there may be some sort of abuse going on with her and Beast's relationship, so I decided to keep her secret.

Went to Lawrences place.

I just knew I had to obviously head to the place where (from the mirror) there's a bloody dagger next to what looked like a corpse. I was able to keep on Dee's trail until the end, too. Lawrence is also of course alive for me, though I wonder if he can still potentially perish during the scene when you're in the closet? I jumped outta there as soon as Lawrence pointed the gun anywhoo.

Currently have no suspect

Didn't want to jump to any conclusions, because I frankly don't have any... So I decided to keep quiet.

I took the Woodsman in

...I kinda regret that one, as it seems like you should obviously take in the mafia'd up Dee. But considering that the Woodsman was also running away in the first place, i figured he may also know something about Dee and Dum anywhoo. Also, fuck Gren, and fuck your arm >8)

Ending was of course rather tragic, though as soon as I noticed the police everywhere, my first thought was ''Oh, so Snow White's dead then''.

I guess I went way off the norm with my choices. I didn't give Faith any money, I went to Toad first, but I did go after the PI instead of Woodsman. He clearly doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

Who else ripped the guy's arm off? I feel maybe I shouldn't have done that haha

Also I dunno how Snow is dead. She obviously comes back.

EDIT: Oh yeah I also lied to Beast because I'm pretty sure Beauty never cheated on him.

@steelerzfan101 said:

I'm curious about this too. Like you have the option to give that matchbook to Faith at the beginning. If you keep it can you use it as a clue or something? It's clearly from the bar at the end. Maybe you get a dialog option with the bartender and can say you found this outside the Woodsman's apartment or something. Interesting possibilities are created if NOT using your inventory items is sometimes a good thing.

I must be the only one who told Beast the truth.

You can't use it in the cig machine because the bartender doesn't have change. I believe you can use it to pay for your drink, but I didn't haha

You still can't buy a pack of cigarettes. They explain it away by Wolf not having the right change, and when he asks the bartender, she apparently doesn't have any, either.

@yummylee: @mideonnviscera:

@pynchon: right? I thought at first that Faith was going to be the romance, then Snow but....

So far, I am liking this game (damn cliffhanger, can't wait)

Here are my choices:

• Gave Faith my money
• Lied to Beast (didn't wanted to, he seems like a nice enough guy, but I promised Beauty I wouldn't tell)
• Went to Toad's first (unlike Lawrence, Toad sounded to be in imminent danger)
• Didn't prevent Lawrence's death (I don't know how. I guess it can be done depending of the previous choice)
• Suspected Dee (I really don't think he did it, but he was the only reasonable one among the options - didn't know you get more with X)
• Arrested the Woodsman (I panicked).
• Didn't rip off Grendel's arm (I tried to play the nice guy here, he had enough)

Based on the classic folk character, he beheaded his wives. There is a reference to that in his Bio. Also, if you go to the Chapters sections, there is a screenshot of him and Bigba having a discussion, so I guess he will be shown prominently in later episodes. He does seems like the most likely suspect so far because of that, but the first chapter doesn't give you any information to validate that theory. Also, he seems like too easy a suspect, so I am guessing its a red herring...

@cornbredx: If it reminds you a lot of Fables, it might be noted that the network that runs Once Upon a Time was originally setting up a deal to do a TV version of Fables. That deal fell through, and Once Upon a Time was put into production shortly after. Draw your own conclusions from that.

haha Wow, I dunno what to think about that.

Well, I guess that's one of the dangers of building your fiction around stories and characters that are in the public domain.

I always play the Good path in these type of games, but damn if I didn't rip that fuckers arm off.

Hey i have read the first 5 volumes of Fables and it will spoil some of the story. They are great books and you should read them later if you do not want the game to be spoiled. I still loved this episode despite some of the craziness being ruined from reading the comics

@teknoarcanist: That is interesting. To be fair, though, ABC (i believe it is) is run by Disney so they already had their own universe to mess with those characters and while I'm not a big fan of every change they make I actually appreciate a lot of the jabs at Disney's place in pop culture relating to these characters.

They are both interesting takes on fairy tales, but I do feel they are different enough to feel like two different things. Just to be clear about that.

But ya, that is interesting back story.

Man, did anyone else feel like the "fighting the bad side" of Bigby's character was really well-realised? The whole game I kept stopping myself from doing the more aggressive things, although I kind of wanted to, then in the end when Bigby goes beastmode I just went crazy and ripped Grendel's arm off. I never felt like I was out of character in the choices I made.

I feel like the killer is Bigby. I mean, it makes perfect sense. He's turning into the wolf (which is ultimately his bad side) and has no conscious memory of it. When the first murder takes place, he suddenly "awakens" from a nap and Snow is beating on his door. It also fits perfectly with the title of the game and is a twist you wouldn't see coming.

If you look at the future episodes it seems very plausible as well.

@omegax: Yeah. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Bigby isn't the killer and there is more to it than that. As soon as Crane said "There is a killer among us" it hit me.

Looks like I am one of the few who went to Lawrence's apartment first, seeing as how I figured out who was at Toad's I am glad with this decision to keep him alive, so far at least.

That theory does make a certain amount of sense but in one of the Fables entries it talks about when he met Snow he was in wolf form and had been ripping through soldiers and she got him to bite through her manacles. That makes me think they won't go that route, it wouldn't make sense that he was able to control himself before but now is indiscriminately killing. Also it does seem like a bit of an obvious twist. I hope it doesn't go that way anyway.

Screw that ending, now I'm all depressed :( Great game though.

@thesoutherndandy:

How can Bigby be the killer? We see Bigby "wolf-out" during the bar sequence, but Snow still dies off screen. When would Bigby have had time to slip away?

@cbk486: Wow for some reason that didn't occur to me at all, you're right. Debunked!

• Gave Faith the money
• Lied to Beast
• Went to Toads first
• Didn't prevent Lawrence's death
• Suspected the Woodsman
• Arrested the Tweedle Dee
• Didn't rip the douche's arm off

I am really liking this game and I've never read the Fable's comics. When I was on the "Press Start" screen, I already loved the presentation. I love 80's neon and music things so I instantly loved it. I mean, my favorite movie is Drive so this isn't surprising. Everything about the game is great and I can't wait to play more but man, poor Snow White.:/ But I looked on Wiki and it says she is alive in the comics and seeming that this is a prequel, she should come back to life. I also knew once you saw the police that Snow was killed. I think anything Telltale does from now will be pure gold.

I also did a second playthrough after and did all the opposite decisions from above.

@primalhorse:

This.

Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie,

Kissed the girls and made them cry,

When the boys came out to play

Georgie Porgie ran away.

Just finished playing and really enjoyed my time with it. Can't wait till the next one.

• Gave Faith my money
• "..." to Beauty and same to Beast -- though I feel kinda bad about not saying anything to the guy.
• Went to Toads first -- He made it seem important. Messed up on my questioning and could only catch him in one lie. I did suspect him of hitting TJ at first. Toad still strikes me as a shitbag after all that.
• Didn't prevent Lawrence's death
• Suspected the Pimp -- I didn't think to look through the Bluebeard's file, and I didn't know anything about him really so it didn't feel right to suspect him. Also not familiar at all with Bluebeard.
• Arrested the Tweedle Dee -- hesitated on this one because Woody was spilling his guts about his true colors. Tweedle's are mixed up with something, and seeing that teaser with the Woodsman still out and about worries me.
• Didn't rip Grendel's arm off -- but if he comes after me again like that, I really want to put him in his place.

Also, I wanted to tell Crane to fuck off, but I kept my mouth shut. Really don't like that guy. Stoked to see how the rest of everything else unfolds. Damn.

I went to Toad, because, well, he's a mate. Also, his situation seemed more urgent at the time. I kinda assumed Lawrence was already dead when I saw him still sitting.

And I took in Woody, because from what I gathered the Tweedles are investigating the case as well, just from a different angle. And since I was one step ahead of them in the bar, I assumed they knew as little as I did, whereas whatever Woody has to say might actually advance my own investigation. That's not to say I still consider the woodsman a suspect, but he might be able to tell me more about Faith and maybe know who her pimp is, who is someone I definitely need to have words with.

I was totally expecting the second victim to be Beauty, and Beauty's secret to be her having some sort of connection with Faith. With Snow ending up to be the second victim, who I'm pretty sure had no connection to Faith at all, it feels safe to assume Faith didnt die because of some shit she was in... I doubt she even knew her killer. So that rules out her pimp.

I don't think we've even met the perp yet... so that kinda leaves only Bluebeard as a suspect at this point, but Bluebeard has red herring written all over him.

That barfight was fucking awesome, by the way. I felt like such a badass.

Final thoughts: Faith's ribbon seems very significant at this point. Her asking 'do you like my ribbon' was her definitely trying to tell us something. The ribbon has lips on them, which connects to 'these lips are sealed'. I wish I could further interrogate the mirror when he repeated those exact words. It might be just a collar through which her pimp proclaims ownership, but I think there's more to it than that. I'm meaning to ask him about it ^^.

• Gave Faith the money. It just felt right in the moment. Although when I chose to pay for the drink I'd forgot that Bigby had no money.
• Stayed out of it with Beast. Bigby had shit to do, he ain't getting in no relationship bother.
• Went to Toads first, he sounded like he needed the help.
• Didn't prevent Lawrence's death :(
• Didn't suspect anyone, because I genuinely don't have a suspect. Not enough evidence to say one way or the other.

Arrested Tweedle Dee, just for hitting me more than anything. The Woodsman seemed cool at that moment.

I also ripped that guys arm off, to show that Bigby ain't nothin' to fuck with.

Also, would reading the comics now spoil anything in the games do you think? Because I really want to read them, I thought this episode was fantastic and want more of this world.

Glad to see this thread pop up...finished the first episode this weekend and really enjoyed it. Not to belabor the point but TTG is really excellent about bringing gravitas to their narratives. Needless to say that is a rarity in our well-loved medium.

Picked this up off the Steam sale.

The ending was perfect. I'm sure it was a shock for people who are coming into this fiction without having read the books and a weird sense of relief for those that have.

@sadisticwolf: unless you have some insider knowledge, I find that hard to believe. The game has its own story, just because one character is prominent in the comics it doesnt mean they cant be killed off in the game...

I just wanted to point out I actually reset because of this. It felt damn good to beat the shit out of Grendel, I tore his arm off and looked like a total badass... I get to the bar and I saw the option to pay and I thought "Hell yeah im gonna throw money at her and walk away as a big fuck you" and suddenly Bigby is all "Oh sorry im out of cash :/" and I was like NOPE. Reset and did the whole fight over again just to say I wasnt paying ahah,

****Major Spoilers******

Unless Telltale pull some alternate reality bullshit

Seeing as how I read the books, is the only explanation for the ending is that it's a fake? Seems like a bad jump-scare, seeing as how there's no way that happened; TWAU is supposed to be canonical.

fucking loved the 1st ep. Enjoyed it 100000 times better than the walking dead.

Ok, just played through this last night. really enjoyed it, can't say I enjoyed it more than walking dead yet, but you can certainly see how much they learned from season 1 of TWD. However I have to say that I am amazed by the number of people that were surprised by Snow White's death. I thought her death was totally telegraphed, from the point in the car that they are headed to Lawrence's place. When they just looked at each other in the car I said out loud, "well, she is dead." So the ending wasn't nearly as eventful as most people seem to think, at least for me. Maybe it is because I haven't read the comics though... Looking forward to the rest, really hope that they don't actually take until next fall to finish.

Here are my choices:

Didn't give Faith any money....(hey, i could pay my own drink at the end)

I promised Beauty I wouldn't tell...but i told Beast anyway....(I'm funny that way...I''m gonna kick Beast's ass in the next episode anyway hehehe)

Went to Lawrence first, his more important to the case I think...(f#*k Toad...I'll take him to the Farm if he still don't have his

Glamour-up the next time we meet)

Lawrence survived...(can't wait to tell him the bad news about his wife's decapitated head we have in the morgue hehehe)

Didn't suspect anyone...they are all RED HERRING anyway....and because i have my own "THEORY"

Didn't grab anyone at the Trip Trap Bar...but than automatic grab woody

My THEORY: (for good measure you may not want to continue reading this)

If you ask me....I think the serial killer is not Faith's husband, not the Woodsman, not DE or DUM, not her pimp and not Bluebeard....is the Taxi Driver...we saw him first in the hallway when Snow ask Bigby to go outside to see Faith's head in the front of the building..than again in front of Crane's office..this shows that his a Fable also...after that when Bigby chase down De...De threw a sofa at Bigby...

when Bigby lift it up..is the same guy again on the ground (who is this guy!!??)...and at the end when you look closer at the taxi driver..the one taking Bigby and Snow to the TRIP TRAP BAR...Booom!! SAME GUY!!..and there fore his the last guy to be seen with Snow...before we see her decapitated head in the end of the episode....by the look of the guy...my guest is his Puss in Boots...sorry guys...i just "called" it :)

it's a great game and i love it.....

Jesus this has taken so long to come out (ep2)

Anyone who arrested the Woodsman is crazy. He's a drunk asshole; Tweedle Dee actually knows something.

Given how the first season of Walking Dead episode 1 played out is anyone else super suspicious about that skinny red haired freckled dude? He was in line to get into the office, he ran into Snow and Bigby in the hallway, and he was the taxi driver that picked up Snow.

I played this on xmas day with both of my brothers co-piloting the whole time. I had the controller but we basically voted on the choices.

Uh from what i remember.

- Gave faith money.- Just wanted nothing to do with the beast/beauty thing.
- went to toads first because my brother INSISTED. We also beat the SHIT out of toad till he talked rofl. (he was CONVINCED he was in on it lol)
- we suspected bluebeard because my brother read the comics and said he was bad news? I dunno he seemed very surprised by the events of the game. He used comic knowledge to "guide" us and was wrong everytime lol
- got in a bar fight with grendel but didnt rip off his arm.