Torchlight II coming September 20th!

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#1 Posted by MGSolid86 (179 posts) -
#2 Posted by JoshyLee (178 posts) -

Torchlight 2 and Borderlands 2 coming in the same week? That's gonna be a lot of loot.

#3 Posted by Tennmuerti (8102 posts) -

Fucking really?

They could have picked any day of this game starved wasteland prior to this and they pick the day Borderlands 2 comes out. Well done. Good job. Brilliant. /rolleyes

I would say "sorry Runic but I'll be playing Borderlands 2" except they already have my preorder money ^.^ so not like that makes a difference.

#4 Posted by Ares42 (2664 posts) -

I'm speechless..... whoever made that desicion... wow.

#5 Posted by SamStrife (1282 posts) -

Wow. Terrible decision...

#6 Posted by Bell_End (1208 posts) -

had my fill of this type of game with D3 for the time being. i will play it but next year sometime maybe

#7 Posted by Fearbeard (830 posts) -

Lol, bad timing... Even waiting a week might make a difference, but I'm going to be deep into Borderlands 2 when it comes out.

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#8 Posted by Cincaid (2956 posts) -

Well, I'll wait for the Steam holiday sale then, since I'll be way too busy with Borderlands 2 (and later XCOM: Enemy Unknown) to play any Torchlight this fall. Not to mention college, ugh.

#9 Posted by cmblasko (1235 posts) -

Would really like to hear the rationale behind going head-to-head with a game that is a surefire-hit and targets a similar demographic. Oh well, I will be picking up both games at some point regardless.

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#10 Posted by Village_Guy (2579 posts) -

I... uh, this sounds like close to the worst timing they could have chosen. If they had just got it out a week or two before, then I would have looked at it in a much more positive light.

#11 Edited by Ghostiet (5275 posts) -

I wonder what the fuck made them wait so goddamn long. First they tried to run it against Diablo 3, now against Borderlands 2. The beta was perfectly functional and they had what, a 3 month window to release it?

At this point I'm way too deep in the asshole of Diablo 3 to care about Torchlight 2, considering that the gameplay wasn't different enough from the first one.

#12 Posted by WilltheMagicAsian (1545 posts) -

This is just like how they had beta testing the same week Diablo III was released. Runic seems really poor at planning release dates.

#13 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1807 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

Fucking really?

They could have picked any day of this game starved wasteland prior to this and they pick the day Borderlands 2 comes out. Well done. Good job. Brilliant. /rolleyes

I would say "sorry Runic but I'll be playing Borderlands 2" except they already have my preorder money ^.^ so not like that makes a difference.

This. I will be neck deep in loot. I might have to take a holiday.

#14 Posted by AndrewB (7615 posts) -

Launching after the behemoth and at the same time as another, albeit very different loot-based game... but I'm sure that wasn't an unnecessary choice, and Biablo III has run its course with many already. I don't have anything against Diablo III, but hindsight has made me wonder if I should have saved myself for Torchlight II and continued my streak of not playing a single Diablo game.

#15 Posted by DFSVegas (354 posts) -

Terrible idea, because clearly Torchlight 2 will cease to exist if you choose to play Borderlands 2 first and have to wait a week.

Why didn't Runic release the game before it was finished? Morons!

#16 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1807 posts) -

Just to be clear, I have pre-ordered both. I'm just going to be overwhelmed by both of these games. It's not a bad problem to have.

#17 Posted by bchampnd (108 posts) -

Terrible idea for them. It will work out very well for me, however. Play Borderlands 2 when it comes out and then pick up Torchlight 2 during the inevitable Steam sale.

I feel like Torchlight 2 missed its 2 logical release windows: (1) a couple months prior to Diablo 3 when people were starting to get the itch for this type of game and (2) end of July or early August when no new games were coming out. The game might not have been ready yet so that could be a reason for waiting, but it's not a mystery when the big name titles are launching so you'd think they'd try to find a soft spot in the release calendar.

#18 Posted by phrosnite (3518 posts) -

Borderlands 2? If it's anything like the first one I'm take a pass. Bordomlands anyone?

Torchlight 2 on the other hands looks awesome. I played the beta for like 6 hours and had tons of fun. Diablo 3 beta bored me to death 2 hours in.

Torchlight 2 gets my money.

#19 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

This after fucking Darksiders/Sleeping Dogs day too. Who plans this?!

#20 Posted by Tennmuerti (8102 posts) -

@DFSVegas: Terrible hyperboles clearly missing the point of many peoples comments.

#21 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1807 posts) -

@phrosnite said:

Borderlands 2? If it's anything like the first one I'm take a pass. Bordomlands anyone?

Bite your tongue.

#opinions

#22 Posted by Mcfart (1624 posts) -

I guess Runic doesn't want to make money.

#23 Posted by CircleNine (381 posts) -

I really don't give a fuck about Borderlands 2 so I'm fine with this. Also even when I was in college and high school I managed to be able to both play multiple games as well as do everything that I needed for classes & activities & friends. This is not a hard thing balance. You can manage it too, I think. You don't need to throw a little shitfit trying to hold them to ransom cause they're not releasing games spaced out how you personally want them to be spaced out.

#24 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2129 posts) -

Oh no at the same time as Borderlands 2! I guess my only choice is to be a reasonable, intellectual person and play both equally in moderation should I get both games and manage my time accordingly.

#25 Posted by ajamafalous (11994 posts) -

There are only a handful of days they could've picked that would've been worse.

#26 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1807 posts) -

@Tennmuerti: Nope, this is definitely a first world problem and there is no reasonable way you can defend your complaints.

#27 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4915 posts) -

@ShiftyMagician said:

Oh no at the same time as Borderlands 2! I guess my only choice is to be a reasonable, intellectual person and play both equally in moderation should I get both games and manage my time accordingly.

Haha i like that comment.

I pre-ordered Torchlight 2 months ago, so i'm just gonna stick with playing that. So Borderlands 2 will have to wait.

#28 Posted by Tennmuerti (8102 posts) -

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1: heh

#29 Posted by DFSVegas (354 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

@DFSVegas: Terrible hyperboles clearly missing the point of many peoples comments.

Actually mostly just trolling... Although I legitimately don't get the idea that they should have released the game earlier, considering how much people bitch when games come out with bugs.

#30 Posted by Ares42 (2664 posts) -

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1: Yes, because no game has ever suffered in sales because they released close to another huge title, and in the current viral environment launch hype doesn't in any way convert to sales at all....

Sure, there's a few people that complain about "oh noes, I can't play both", but there's no arguing this isn't a terrible terrible business desicion for them.

#31 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1807 posts) -

@Ares42: I don't assume to be a businessman, but if you're worried about it under performing then buy some copies for your friends.

#32 Posted by Ares42 (2664 posts) -

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1: I'm not worried, I'm just saying it's a bad desicion =)

#33 Posted by bchampnd (108 posts) -

@CircleNine said:

I really don't give a fuck about Borderlands 2 so I'm fine with this. Also even when I was in college and high school I managed to be able to both play multiple games as well as do everything that I needed for classes & activities & friends. This is not a hard thing balance. You can manage it too, I think. You don't need to throw a little shitfit trying to hold them to ransom cause they're not releasing games spaced out how you personally want them to be spaced out.

To be fair, it's much easier to make time to play multiple games in high school and college than it is once you get a real job in most cases. (Unless, of course, you're one of the people who is involved in an assload of sports/activities when you have practice every day, games/concerts on weekends. Which was me during high school but not as much in college when I had a lot more free time on my hands.)

I think people have also become a lot more concerned about release dates in the past 5 or so years because of how much more important and widespread online gaming has become. In the past, it didn't matter when a game came out because, to play with other people, you had to have friends/acquaintances and you were going to have to go to their place or invite them over. You also only needed one copy of a game unless you were getting fancy and setting up a system link. Now, people don't get together as much to play games since it's more convenient to play from your own place. The tradeoff is that now you have to convince your friends to invest in a game if you want to play with them, which they may not want to do because they don't have the cash or they have the cash but just bought a different game.

As for release date complaints though, that's something publishers should be taking into consideration. When they look at the release schedule, they should be evaluating whether certain games will have overlap that can cannibalize sales. You may not be interested Torchlight but not in Borderlands, just as there may be people who are interested in Borderlands but not Torchlight, but I think that if someone doing market research created a Venn diagram of the audiences for these two games, there would be a sizable overlap since they are both loot-based RPGs.

#34 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

Great! I don't care about Borderlands 2 so I will be playing this instead!

#35 Posted by alternate (2706 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

Fucking really?

They could have picked any day of this game starved wasteland prior to this and they pick the day Borderlands 2 comes out. Well done. Good job. Brilliant. /rolleyes

I would say "sorry Runic but I'll be playing Borderlands 2" except they already have my preorder money ^.^ so not like that makes a difference.

Given how long it has been in dev I would bet on this being the earliest they could get it out - trying to beat the October gangbang. If they could have had it out in the summer drought I bet they would have. Still half expect it to come out unfinished now.

#36 Posted by stryker1121 (1442 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

Fucking really?

They could have picked any day of this game starved wasteland prior to this and they pick the day Borderlands 2 comes out. Well done. Good job. Brilliant. /rolleyes

I would say "sorry Runic but I'll be playing Borderlands 2" except they already have my preorder money ^.^ so not like that makes a difference.

Hopefully the reasonable point-of-entry price will grab folks who want both games. That said, I don't have the time for BL2 and Torchlight. The latter will have to wait but I'm very much looking forward to getting it sometime down the line.

#37 Edited by Loafsmooch (349 posts) -

Pre-ordered TL2 months ago. Can't fucking wait!

Been reading all the "Not a Blog"s from the lead developer (Travis Baldree) every week for 2 months now and also been lurking on the runic forums. Man, these devs have such a strong connection and great dialogue with their fans, never seen anything like it. I have nothing but respect for Runic.

Edit: Oh, and they promised us a summer release and officially summer ends on september 21st. I think they just want to please the fans, they don't care about shmorderlands release dates.

#38 Posted by spiceninja (3062 posts) -

I think it will do just fine. It was the number 1 top selling game for a long time on Steam when pre-orders went up and it stuck around on that list for weeks, so I assume they've made a considerable amount of cash off pre-orders alone.

#39 Posted by Wikitoups (821 posts) -

So this is a day before the first day of fall...well it's still summer!

#40 Posted by Gantrathor (210 posts) -

Torchlight II and Borderlands 2 are both very different beasts, even if though they both have loot drops. Someone who likes Borderlands isn't necessarily going to like Torchlight, and vice versa. I don't like Borderlands very much, so I'm not getting Borderlands 2. But I do love Torchlight, so I'm getting Torchlight II. Both games have big enough fan bases that both of the companies behind the games will make a good chunk of cash. Of course, Gearbox will get a much bigger chunk of cash. But Runic Games is an indie studio, so I don't think they're trying to get rich off of their game. (Unless they are, of course.) And Torchlight II is so cheap that it will more than likely keep making money down the road with Steam sales and impulse buys.

In conclusion, both companies are making cool games for their respective fan bases, and you should buy and play whichever one(s) interest you!

#41 Posted by ConfusedOwl (942 posts) -

I will be getting Borderlands 2 eventually but it won't be the release date so this okay for me at least.

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#42 Edited by CircleNine (381 posts) -

I just really don't get why they used their big PAX announcement to say that it's still 3 weeks away. If it were a week away or so I'd be totally hyped again, like I was after playing the beta just waiting for it to come out. I'm still looking forward to it but the date announcement got, from me at least, more of a reaction of "finally, about damn time" with it still being three weeks out instead of having me on the edge of my seat waiting for it. Now the next time I really think about it again will probably be when Steam notifies me that the game download is complete from my preorder.

Just seems weird as a big announcement that people have been waiting months for.

e: Obviously they want to make the game as good as they can before release so I'm fine with them taking more time to make it what they want, expecting to keep people hyped up over the next 3 weeks just seems strange is all.

#43 Posted by MURDERSMASH (251 posts) -

I'm just glad to see a release date for it. Don't see why we all have to dive deep into what other games are being released and what-not. If you want to play Borderlands 2 first, go ahead and do it. Runic will be fine.

#44 Posted by geirr (2574 posts) -

Worst. Release. Date. Ever.

Just slightly worse than Sleeping Dogs/Darksiders 2.. slightly.

#45 Posted by Korolev (1707 posts) -

Well, it's fairly cheap so I might get it... but honestly, I don't think I'll have the time. Probably get it a few weeks later. I am glad, however, that they've finally finished it. Took them long enough. I liked the first Torchlight, even if it was so easy that even my parents could and DID play it. I hope Torchlight 2 actually proves challenging, because the first one, despite doing so many things right, was so easy that I didn't die even once during my play-through on Normal, and defeated the game using literally 2 buttons - M1 and potion hot-key, which in my case was 1. I used two buttons to beat the game. I hope Torch-light 2 at least requires me to use 3 buttons.

#46 Edited by pweidman (2334 posts) -

Sweet. Finally satisfied with the polish and balance apparently.

The guys at Runic really don't care about other game releases. Seriously, all they want is to make solid games and allow their clients to have a blast playing their games. And because of that, the resultant proper income will take care of itself.

UPDATE: Preordered and preloaded Max ;)

And:Two great loot games can be played at once...it's possible...I think.

#47 Posted by shadowdrone (71 posts) -

Already invested in this games months ago. Borderlands 2, while I'm excited for, I'm less inclined to pay attention to immediately it being a brand new, high profile, $60 release; which I am less equipped to handle right now. Those two facts have essentially made my choice for me, which I am fine with. I've been anticipating Torchlight II since I heard of its announcement, and I was instantly sold after I played the beta. Can't wait for it.

#48 Posted by Zacagawea (1594 posts) -

I'll pass then

#49 Posted by Syndrom (361 posts) -

borderlands 2 = fps with loot

torchlight II = arpg with loot

i can play both

#50 Posted by Kiri90 (257 posts) -

I just pre-ordered Torchlight 2 (and already have Borderlands 2 pre-ordered as well). I'll try to balance my time between both games, but I'm pretty sure my loot thirst will be quenched in just over two weeks.

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