Ubi Going Green, Does Anyone Care

Posted by SourMillennia (43 posts) -

I saw an artcile yesterday detailing Ubisoft's decision to 'go green' by ceasing to print game manuals in any of their future releases. They estimate they could save a few million trees alone by doing this, so from an environmental standpoint it sounds good. But, there are other questions. 
 
One is, isd the manual now going to be in digital format on a disc, which seems good until you realize that; if it is only accessible from the menu, one would have to quit their game if they need to figure something out from the manual. Also, what about game collectors. For years I have always bought games new in order to have the manual with the case and disk, as it then becomes a nicer 'package' overall. But what now? Thirdly, does anyone read the manual anymore? I just like having them from a collection perspective, but I rarely read them unless I am really confused about something. I admire Ubi's effort, but was the idea of a paper (now usually four page) manual outdated anyway? What are other folks thought's on this?

#1 Posted by SourMillennia (43 posts) -

I saw an artcile yesterday detailing Ubisoft's decision to 'go green' by ceasing to print game manuals in any of their future releases. They estimate they could save a few million trees alone by doing this, so from an environmental standpoint it sounds good. But, there are other questions. 
 
One is, isd the manual now going to be in digital format on a disc, which seems good until you realize that; if it is only accessible from the menu, one would have to quit their game if they need to figure something out from the manual. Also, what about game collectors. For years I have always bought games new in order to have the manual with the case and disk, as it then becomes a nicer 'package' overall. But what now? Thirdly, does anyone read the manual anymore? I just like having them from a collection perspective, but I rarely read them unless I am really confused about something. I admire Ubi's effort, but was the idea of a paper (now usually four page) manual outdated anyway? What are other folks thought's on this?

#2 Posted by Arkasai (701 posts) -

Don't really care : / never looked in those damn things anyway.  Most recently I skimmed the booklet for FF13...which by the way DOES NOT tell you which button to press to bring up the aerosol (veils) menu.  It's a small gesture toward the greater good, but it's not enough to for me to forgive them for their recent DRM choices.

#3 Posted by crusader8463 (14305 posts) -

As far as I'm concerned there best efforts to go green was their new DRM system, because once they added it to all there games most people refused to buy them anymore. So if no one buys them then they don't need to make more, and that just means less waste all around!

#4 Posted by diz (816 posts) -

 
Aren't trees sustainable? 
 
From now on, if you want to read the manual, you'll have to turn your console or PC on every time. How energy saving is that?
 
Sounds to me like corporate cost cutting, dressed up as "doing us all a favour".

#5 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

Don't care, manuals aren't like they were before...my copy of MW2 had a fucking 4 page manual of crap, as did most of my games of 2008-2010, the only exception to this was the Metal Gear Solid 4 manual which was not just informative but also fucking hilarious.

#6 Posted by TheMasterDS (1864 posts) -

Manuals are useless nowadays. I sorta agree with Jeff in that before I got a licence, manuals had a place. Now they don't. I have a bigger problem with the cases with holes in the back perfect for being disposable. I mean sure, if I wanted to throw away the thing I payed 60 dollars for it'd be slightly less bad, but I'm not doing that because I intend to keep my fucking games.

#7 Posted by luce (4045 posts) -

Ubisoft is going green alright...

#8 Posted by ProfessorEss (7123 posts) -

I don't care that they're getting rid of manuals, but I'm also not impressed by this weak idea of a "going green" initiative.
Now if tomorrow UbiSoft says they are going to use video conferencing to reduce their air travel by 50% I might give a thumbs up.
 
@luce said:

" Ubisoft is going green alright... "

Well played :)
#9 Posted by Yummylee (20559 posts) -

So Ubi are aligned with microsoft huh? Biased bastards!
#10 Posted by Vinchenzo (6192 posts) -

Let me repeat what I said in the primary thread about this. 
 
Yes I somewhat care because I read manuals on the toilet. However, Ubisoft and EA have shitty, flimsy, uninforming manuals so I don't really care if they stop. I wanted to check the Assassin's Creed 2 manual for something the other day and it wasn't even in there. What the fuck is the point? However, if a company knows how to make a good manual on GOOD paper in color then by all means keep it up. Who the fuck really gives a shit about the trees anymore. We're all FUCKED.

#11 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@luce said:
" Ubisoft is going green alright... "
What ya talking about?  Aside from AC2, what game is making them bank like MW2?
#12 Posted by Dom (436 posts) -

I'm more upset about those new stripped down cases than about the manuals

#13 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@Dom: What are these stripped down cases everyone keeps talking about?  Please excuse my ignorance on this as I haven't bought a 360 game in years, and the PS3 BD cases are still the same...and PC games....don't need boxes? 
#14 Posted by Dom (436 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @Dom: What are these stripped down cases everyone keeps talking about?  Please excuse my ignorance on this as I haven't bought a 360 game in years, and the PS3 BD cases are still the same...and PC games....don't need boxes?  "
they look like this: 
#15 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@Dom: is that really cheaper?  I would think you need a machine to poke out those holes or buy a new machine to make the casing like that.  That looks so stupid...
#16 Posted by Dom (436 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @Dom: is that really cheaper?  I would think you need a machine to poke out those holes or buy a new machine to make the casing like that.  That looks so stupid... "
i don't know how much money it saves, if it saves any, but i find that it offers less protection to the disc
#17 Posted by MrSnow (1213 posts) -

More like UBi saving money...........

#18 Posted by skrutop (3615 posts) -

I'm cool with it, though trying to spin it as a "green" initiative instead of a cost-cutting measure seems a bit trite these days.  
 
I usually recycle my cases and put the discs in a CD wallet, but for some reason I keep the manuals.  I have no idea why, as I never read them.  I just can't bring myself to toss them in the recycling bin.

#19 Posted by Gmanall (1683 posts) -

All they are doing is cutting cost for them which I think is fine because it is getting harder and harder to make money off of Mr White... 
I don't   recycle because there is no point and it "kills" the environment more. The whole green thing is a lie...   

#20 Posted by Zaxex (569 posts) -
@Gmanall said:
" All they are doing is cutting cost for them which I think is fine because it is getting harder and harder to make money off of Mr White... I don't   recycle because there is no point and it "kills" the environment more. The whole green thing is a lie...    "
Don't really get that. Surely re-using paper or whatever saves cutting down some trees,  job done. 
 
I'm pretty into the idea of no more user manual things, the majority are useless and re-hash the info in the game but in black and white and with half the information being about law etc. I like how XBLA games do it, where you can pause many games and go Options -> How to Play, or something like that. Unless they're original I can't get a single piece of new information from them or entertain myself during a loading screen.
#21 Posted by Gmanall (1683 posts) -
@Zaxex said:
" @Gmanall said:
" All they are doing is cutting cost for them which I think is fine because it is getting harder and harder to make money off of Mr White... I don't   recycle because there is no point and it "kills" the environment more. The whole green thing is a lie...    "
Don't really get that. Surely re-using paper or whatever saves cutting down some trees,  job done.    
The pickup uses gas that pollutes then they have to use chems to clean it up (The kind that are bad for the environment). Because trees are valuable for making paper they "plant" trees to harvest for paper. There are more trees today because of this then there were before paper took off.  
#22 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

You're the 5th whiny blog I've seen on it today, so I guess you guys do care.

#23 Edited by salad10203 (654 posts) -

Um, i love ubi, they are one of the most innovative companies in gaming

#24 Posted by Leptok (942 posts) -

They may be trying to go green, but they are still the black heart of evil with that DRM scheme.

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