Disappointment. It's a word that a rarely use in conjunction with my video games. I tend to think that I keep up to date on current video game trends and the good and bad games out there, listening to podcasts and reading a plethora of reviews. The common consensus is that although UC 3 doesn't push the series further ahead it does indeed give you more of UC 2( which is fine in my mind). After playing through 9 chapters of UC 3, much to my dismay, I have given up. For the first time in my gaming life, a feeling of pure disappointed overcame me. To me, this game is two steps backward for the series. I feel often at times, the game doesn't convey a clear path for you to follow and it seems like enemies will just suddenly be behind you shooting away. This wouldn't be so bad if the enemies were actually humans instead of a bullet sponges. But my biggest gripe with the game is that the aiming is broken. I feel that the input lag and "jankiness" of the controls is terrible. I thought that maybe my dual shock 3 was broke or that my HDTV was lagging but according to some this is an issue for everyone.

After I rage quit, I looked up aiming problems with UC 3 and found this:

I'm stumped as to what happened at ND for this to happen. After the stellar UC2, it saddens me that the game feels the way it does.

Anyone else here feel the same way?

Really sorry to hear this, I bet you were really looking forward to the game. 
I'm glad i cancelled my pre-order (i only wanted to postpone the purchase). I'll wait until it's patched and fixed. 
 
You also discussed the issue with level design/bad AI placement, which can't really be fixed.. Is it that bad?

There are going to be skeptics on this one...

I think Uncharted 3 is still solid. My only complaint is with the aiming and how the characters feel (kinda hard to describe, it's kinda like the change in motion of the character from Gears 1 to Gears 2) Shit just feels off, UC 2 felt way better. This isn't going to put me off on the game though, only the multiplayer.

Only AA likes quitters.................

Hmm. OK, so when I started up the game the other night and came to the first real shooting section, I felt like something was super off and couldn't figure out what. I messed around with the aim sensitivity but never felt like it did much to help the situation. I certainly didn't think it felt as nice as Uncharted 2, which memory was telling me was pretty perfect, so I chalked it up to me just kinda forgetting how the aiming worked after playing something as smooth controlling as Gears 3 more recently, but this has me thinking. 

I ragequit Killzone 2 for the same reason. I ragequit Uncharted 2 for totally different reasons.

Damn, either that guy is using that controller wrong, or PS3 controllers completely suck.

@AhmadMetallic: I was REALLY looking forward to UC 3 with UC 2 being one of my favorite games of this generation. It saddens me tremendously that I have taken issue with this game. As I said, I really don't think a patch that fixes the aiming will bring me back, since I just can't get behind the shooting encounters. What I mean by that is even if the aiming with fixed, the shooting sections just seem poorly designed to me with random AI movement and enemies just appearing behind you sometimes. To me, it's a chore to play the shooting sections just to get to the next cut scene. To me, it's just not fun like UC 2 was.

@cstrang: I'm not quite sure what you mean? Elaborate perhaps?

You know what, I had a feeling something was a bit different as I was playing it, but couldn't quite pinpoint what it was. I am only 7 chapters into the game but so far it does not feel as well put together as among thieves. I think you might be over reacting a bit all the same, a lesser control scheme is not enough to stop me playing Uncharted. I hope the rest of the game turns out to be good.

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

Damn, either that guy is using that controller wrong, or PS3 controllers completely suck.

What?

Well Uncharted 2 has been patched since then so what is representative now of U2 may not of been the way it was when it first released.

In the time playing the Multiplayer Subway Beta thing, the aiming felt "swimmy" but it didnt take long to adjust to it.

@EndlessObsidian: I wouldnt say its 2 steps down. I do agree that it isnt as good a 2,especially the multiplayer. ND set the bar probably higher than any company has ever done. Uncharted 2 is almost a perfect game. Uncharted 3,while it has its issues(natural lag, awkward character movements, and bad multiplayer) its still a great game. The good Still By FAR outweighs the bad

@mnzy said:

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

Damn, either that guy is using that controller wrong, or PS3 controllers completely suck.

What?

The sound of the analog stick moving is messed up.

@EndlessObsidian: Don't get me wrong, I don't really care if Uncharted 3 is fantastic or not as I haven't even plugged in my PS3 in something like 5 months. However, I know that people will come and fight to the death over what is supposed to be a fantastic PS3 exclusive. I would just prepare yourself (or the maker of that video) for accusations of lags switches or having someone off camera with a different controller.

@TheDudeOfGaming: This guy is not using the controller wrong nor does the DS3 "suck". The issue is specifically within Uncharted 3.

@Peanut said:

Hmm. OK, so when I started up the game the other night and came to the first real shooting section, I felt like something was super off and couldn't figure out what. I messed around with the aim sensitivity but never felt like it did much to help the situation. I certainly didn't think it felt as nice as Uncharted 2, which memory was telling me was pretty perfect, so I chalked it up to me just kinda forgetting how the aiming worked after playing something as smooth controlling as Gears 3 more recently, but this has me thinking.

Yup, Gears 3 has spoiled me severely. You may be able to climb and jump around in UC 3 but Gears 3 pretty much shits on UC 3 in terms of controls and feel. UC 2 wasn't that bad but fuck, someone done goofed with the controls in UC 3.

@cstrang: Ahh gotcha.

I really hope they fix this soon, i just started playing this and havent come accross any parts where i needed pinpoint accuracy yet but this could be game breaking later on! Hopefully a patch will be along really soon.

I haven't even completed the game yet, despite getting it yesterday. I've mostly just been playing the MP (which fortunately I still find to be brilliant) because the SP controls are so awfully cumbersome =/. Fucking shame, considering this was pegged to be my GOTY. It's still a solid four stars, but the majority of is spurned from the MP. There's not even the excitement of playing through the game again with all kinds of screwy cheats and modifiers anymore =(

This problem limited to certain PS3's? IE older 60GB launch models? Newer 40gb models? Redesign models? Is this lag on every PS3? That is terrible input lag.

I feel the same way. When I first started moving my gun around I knew something felt off. I could deal with the aiming if not for the often poor, prolonged combat scenario design.

@Abyssfull said:

I haven't even completed the game yet, despite getting it yesterday.

Man, it must be TERRIBLE!

That did not happen in my entire play through uncharted 3. I even went back and tested it after I saw this video, and there wasn't any input lag.

I had no issues with input lag playing through the whole game.

@mnzy said:

@Abyssfull said:

I haven't even completed the game yet, despite getting it yesterday.

Man, it must be TERRIBLE!

I meant in comparison to me completing Uncharted 2 all in one go; Uncharted 3's SP I don't even really care about at this point. But thanks for misunderstanding!

EDIT: Also the shooting really is kinda terrible, I have to say.

@Abyssfull: No problem!

@Ronald said:

I had no issues with input lag playing through the whole game.

Are you saying that you did not experience input lag as above or that you adjusted to the lag and were able to complete the game?

@Abyssfull said:

@mnzy said:

@Abyssfull said:

I haven't even completed the game yet, despite getting it yesterday.

Man, it must be TERRIBLE!

I meant in comparison to me completing Uncharted 2 all in one go; Uncharted 3's SP I don't even really care about at this point. But thanks for misunderstanding!

EDIT: Also the shooting really is kinda terrible, I have to say.

Indeed, but like other people said, this is just because of how huge the gap between 1 and 2 was. I was goddamn blown away by 2. 3 is solid but it isn't gripping me like before. I think I know what my GoTY will be and unfortunately UC 3 isn't it.

@Tumbler: The problem isn't hardware, it's software.

this has not happened to me yet and I'm almost done with the game.

@drac96: @Ronald:

May I ask what model PS3 console are you using just for curiosity?

I can understand why you would quit if that was the type of lag you were experiencing. That kind of stuff can completely ruin a game.

@ultimatepunchrod:

What model PS3?

@EndlessObsidian: My fat 40GB PS3 died over the summer. I replaced it with a new 160 GB slim, which I popped a 500GB hard drive into.

@EndlessObsidian said:

@ultimatepunchrod:

What model PS3?

160GB slim.

@Tumbler said:

This problem limited to certain PS3's? IE older 60GB launch models? Newer 40gb models? Redesign models? Is this lag on every PS3? That is terrible input lag.

i haven't experienced any lag and I'm close to chapter 20. i have a slim 160GB PS3. im not sure what's going on with this.

huh
 
I am almost at the end of the game (I think) and I haven't noticed any of this.

@drac96: @ultimatepunchrod:

Hrrmmm. I'm playing on my original 60GBer. The thing actually sounds like a jet engine taking off when I play UC3. There's no way that older models are causing the input lag right? RIGHT? O_O

@EndlessObsidian said:

@drac96: @ultimatepunchrod:

Hrrmmm. I'm playing on my original 60GBer. The thing actually sounds like a jet engine taking off when I play UC3. There's no way that older models are causing the input lag right? RIGHT? O_O

I have an old 40 GB'er and I experienced no input lag on mine. : /

I don't really see the problem I do believe they have added a bit more recoil to gun fire so now it is harder to hit head shots. but i have not had problems taking dudes out. I still feel the game is pretty solid and the MP is just as good as U2. My only grip is it not as silky smooth as U2. I have ran into a few glitches here and there. Nothing major but i don't remember running into anything like that.

@Cloudenvy said:

@EndlessObsidian said:

@drac96: @ultimatepunchrod:

Hrrmmm. I'm playing on my original 60GBer. The thing actually sounds like a jet engine taking off when I play UC3. There's no way that older models are causing the input lag right? RIGHT? O_O

I have an old 40 GB'er and I experienced no input lag on mine. : /

I'm thinking the problem is akin to that that God of War III was experiencing where Kratos would plummet down if you tried to double jump. I obviously don't mean these games are experiencing the same problem BUT they are similar in that only some are experiencing the lag. I'll have to check this out when I get home just to make sure I didn't simply get used to the lag quickly, but it seems like something everyone would notice if it were a problem for everyone.

I really hope they patch the lag and the dead zone. While I don't mean to nag about a fairly minor thing (honestly, the game is amazing), but the more this gets spread out the sooner ND will, at the very least admit to either:

1. sorry, we can't make the lag any less.

or

2. sorry, we'll get a patch up and running within the month (yay!!!)

Half the big games this for me (3 out of the six that occurs) have needed patches. Even Deus Ex, my maybe GOTY, was for 2 days unplayable to absurdly long load times, then a patch and all was blue sky and sunshine. What is with these ppl. this happens? And I am assuming the aiming problem can be solved by a patch. Do I dare utter the auto- aim word? I do not want to....but it feels like my gun aims like a ton of bricks!

@Tumbler said:

@Ronald said:

I had no issues with input lag playing through the whole game.

Are you saying that you did not experience input lag as above or that you adjusted to the lag and were able to complete the game?

I did not experience any input lag.

@EndlessObsidian said:

@drac96: @Ronald:

May I ask what model PS3 console are you using just for curiosity?

It started out life as a 40GB model with a new hard drive put in it because 40 gigs is nothing.

Honesly I felt like the input became a little laggy later on in the game, but was nice and snappy at the start.

I too felt some weird aiming lag during the campaign, specifically when using a pistol. I found myself really irritated with it at times. The multiplayer on the other hand I have had no problems with.

I haven't had any issues with aiming, or laggy controls. Just beat it.

Same issue with the aiming I thought my sensitivity was just wrong but it was definitely the input lag. I finally just dropped the difficulty from normal to easy because I was tired of the bullet sponges and the badly design gun shoot outs. The peaks are still amazing but the valleys blow ... hard.

@mnzy said:

@Abyssfull said:

I haven't even completed the game yet, despite getting it yesterday.

Man, it must be TERRIBLE!

lol!