This is what is wrong with the internet.

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#1 Posted by Milkman (16514 posts) -

This NeoGAF thread is pretty much a collection of the worst that internet fanboys have to offer and almost made me physically ill reading it. And if I had to read this crap, I'm going to inflict my misery on the rest of you people. I'm just incredibly thankful that this kind of stuff doesn't happen here. Seriously, every time you want to try to say that this community is bad, take a look at this monstrosity and be thankful.

Here's my personal "favorite" from the "Oozinator":

Eurogamer is angry because this master game competes with one of the few AAA made by domestic failing UK game industry (Batman AC).

Clearly, a guy that truly has it all figured out.

#2 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

#3 Posted by Kazona (3059 posts) -

I lol'd

#4 Posted by Brendan (7685 posts) -

Chloe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatthehellareyoutalkingabout?

#5 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -

Nah, I could point you toward a few videos that would show you what's wrong with the internet. But then I'd be banned.

People just love complaining about shit. That's all.

#6 Edited by Polydeukes (98 posts) -

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

It's probably the lowest score it's gotten so far, as well!

Most developers would dream for UC3's critical reception.

#7 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -

I have to admit though, the idea that a publication is trolling for hits by giving Uncharted a "pathetic" score of eight out of ten is pretty fucking hilarious. The world these people live in.

#8 Posted by Crash_Happy (654 posts) -

@Milkman: It's the herd mentality, you get it everywhere but it's magnified on the internet.

#9 Posted by penINC (136 posts) -

@Slaker117 said:

I have to admit though, the idea that a publication is trolling for hits by giving Uncharted a "pathetic" score of eight out of ten is pretty fucking hilarious. The world these people live in.

You remember 8.8?

#10 Posted by Landon (4130 posts) -

@Kazona said:

I lol'd
#11 Posted by SpencerTucksen (423 posts) -

@Slaker117 said:

I have to admit though, the idea that a publication is trolling for hits by giving Uncharted a "pathetic" score of eight out of ten is pretty fucking hilarious. The world these people live in.

I'd be shocked if it weren't ALMOST a good idea.

#12 Posted by N7 (3573 posts) -

Man. Have you guys ever noticed how much Eric Clapton looks just like Kevin Costner?

#13 Edited by pizzafreak360 (33 posts) -
#14 Posted by 2HeadedNinja (1539 posts) -

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

Thats why point-systems to rate games are stupid ... even the 5-Star rating on GB. I wish everyone would ditch that and just write a review and maybe a list with some pro's and con's.

Tbh. I was at some point hoping that GB would kill the rating system but thats probably too much to ask.

#15 Posted by dudeglove (7684 posts) -

@2HeadedNinja said:

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

Thats why point-systems to rate games are stupid ... even the 5-Star rating on GB. I wish everyone would ditch that and just write a review and maybe a list with some pro's and con's.

Tbh. I was at some point hoping that GB would kill the rating system but thats probably too much to ask.

As a result of their review of Duke Nukem Forever, wherein they couldn't even bring themselves to give it a score, Kill Screen completely abandoned their rating system altogether.

Hopefully this means people will eventually base their purchases on what they actually bother to read, rather than on some stupid arbitrary number.

#16 Posted by Decsterb (3 posts) -

My favourite quote on the list:

Quality is not subjective.
#17 Posted by atomic_dumpling (2458 posts) -

You know, making fun of other forums doesn't strike me as particularly mature either. Just sayin'.

#18 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -

stopped reading when you said neogaf

#19 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -
@penINC: Never forget.
 
@SpencerTucksen: I can see the logic behind a smaller site giving a popular game a negative review just to score some more hits off of enraged fanboys, but there are too problems with that here. First, while not the largest site, Eurogamer isn't small. I'm sure anybody likes a traffic spike, but they have very little to gain from a one time boost of the relatively small number of people who would care. Second, 8/10 is not a bad score. At all. And if people read the text of the review, they would see it's very even handed. While the reviewer has a number of issues with the game's design choices, he understands why they were made, and he does like a lot of things they accomplish with their design philosophy. If they're trolling, they're doing a pretty shitty job at it.
#20 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

@Milkman said:

And if I had to read this crap, I'm going to inflict my misery on the rest of you people.

Why did you have to read it?

#21 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -
@atomic_dumpling said:
You know, making fun of other forums doesn't strike me as particularly mature either. Just sayin'.
This, a million times this.
 
I prefer OMG THIS GAME IS SO GOOD threads over LOL FANBOYZ threads nowadays, seriously.
Leave, people, be.
#22 Posted by Masha2932 (1241 posts) -

This is indicative of people looking at the score and not reading the review. If you read the Eurogamer review the criticisms they raise are similar to those in the 9/10 to 10/10 reviews. I don't know the Eurogamer reviewer personally but I'm sure he is a professional and is not 'trolling' as people are claiming. 

#23 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4584 posts) -

@Masha2932 said:

This is indicative of people looking at the score and not reading the review. If you read the Eurogamer review the criticisms they raise are similar to those in the 9/10 to 10/10 reviews. I don't know the Eurogamer reviewer personally but I'm sure he is a professional and is not 'trolling' as people are claiming.

Eurogamer tends to be more critical than American outlets. An eight out of ten from them means it's a very damn good game.

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#24 Posted by Inkerman (1449 posts) -
@2HeadedNinja said:

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

Thats why point-systems to rate games are stupid ... even the 5-Star rating on GB. I wish everyone would ditch that and just write a review and maybe a list with some pro's and con's.

Tbh. I was at some point hoping that GB would kill the rating system but thats probably too much to ask.

There are advantages to it. While it does spur this kind of BS, it's useful for people to quickly assess a game at a glance, and as an aggregate for things like Metacritic (which I believe some game publishers use to determine bonuses paid to developers). While a review may provide the how and whys of why a game is good, it's the overall rating or score which tells people it's good vs it's bad. 
#25 Posted by Cincaid (2953 posts) -

@Pr1mus: Yeah, apparently they're doing to Kevin VanOrd like they did with Jeff over his 8.8 review to that Zelda game. Kevin tweeted earlier about getting death threats e-mailed to him.

@fiddlecubKevin VanOrd

Death threats over a review? Oh goodie.

@fiddlecubKevin VanOrd

I adore our readers for allowing me to do what I love for a living. But they are making it terribly, terribly hard this week.

#26 Edited by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -

This is the best line, so far: 
 
The Lamp:

When a game comes this close to perfection you have to come up with silly reasons to criticize it.

#27 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3050 posts) -

8.8!?!?! ZELDA IS AMAZING! JEFF GERSTMANN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!

Same thing, right?

#28 Posted by SpunkyHePanda (1590 posts) -

@2HeadedNinja said:

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

Thats why point-systems to rate games are stupid ... even the 5-Star rating on GB. I wish everyone would ditch that and just write a review and maybe a list with some pro's and con's.

Tbh. I was at some point hoping that GB would kill the rating system but thats probably too much to ask.

I will never hope for the complete abolition of review scores. There are countless amazing games I might never have taken a second look at, because why would I want to read a lengthy review of a game I'd barely heard of? A game that may not translate well to a quick description and some screenshots. A good review score will pique my interest and get me to read on about what makes it so good.

#29 Posted by Baal_Sagoth (1231 posts) -

Thank you for this thread and link. It's beautiful beyond belief. The scary aspect of all this shit is: how far have I degenerated towards this level? Probably a lot further than I'd like to admit - given the right game and context :|

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#30 Posted by EVO (3863 posts) -

@SpunkyHePanda said:

A good review score will pique my interest and get me to read on about what makes it so good.

What about a bad review score? Could that deter you from reading about it, even though you might actually enjoy the game?

#31 Edited by haggis (1677 posts) -

Ditching the ratings system would be ideal for a lot of reasons, but it would have the effect of making GB insignificant to publishers looking to boost their release-date Metacritic score. As useful as Metacritic is, it has exacerbated already-existing problems with video game reviews. I don't even look at the score anymore. If I'm interested in a game, I read the whole review. The score means very little to me. I know that's not true of everyone. Maybe a simple thumbs up or thumbs down would be better, just to give a general sense of the reviewer's opinion of the game. Somehow I think Metacritic would still turn it into a number, though. :/

#32 Posted by Toms115 (2316 posts) -

review scores are retarded and so are people who take them seriously. case closed, son.

#33 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Eurogamer? Their scores are metric. An 8 there is like a 9.5 here.

#34 Posted by Stingraymond (85 posts) -

Yeah that 'failing UK game industry' that just announced GTAV which will inevitably be one of the best-selling games ever produced...

That's some mighty ignorance right there.

#35 Edited by SpunkyHePanda (1590 posts) -

@EVO said:

@SpunkyHePanda said:

A good review score will pique my interest and get me to read on about what makes it so good.

What about a bad review score? Could that deter you from reading about it, even though you might actually enjoy the game?

I don't think it would deter me, no. If I'm interested in the game, I'd want to see what the reviewer did or didn't like about it. If I'm not interested in the game, a bad review score would have the same effect as no review score at all; I just wouldn't read the review.

A lot of people will argue that ditching review scores will make the reviews more meaningful. I disagree. If anything, I think the reviews would become less meaningful. Most people will not bother to read reviews for every single game; they will read reviews for games they are already interested in. A great deal of those people will be buying the game regardless. But when some fresh, obscure game comes along and starts getting 9s and 10s across the board, you'll get a lot of people going, "Hey, what's this about?" and then reading up on it to see what makes it great.

Furthermore, without review scores, it might not be enough to read just one or two reviews to justify your $60 purchase. Maybe the review you read is the only glowing review out there, and everyone else hates it. Suddenly, it becomes a lot of effort to figure out whether you want to buy that game or not. The score should not be the be-all and end-all, but I think it's definitely important.

#36 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

Quick. Throw something shiny to distract all the trolls on NeoGAF 
 
But really..they are that upset over digits? I mean...first off its 2 numbers and O NO SOMEONE GAVE THE GAME I LOVE 2 POINTS LOWER THEN PERFECT... 
 
So how did they all react when those asses where sabotaging the Bastion scores? Is metacrtic that important to them? 

#37 Posted by Gabriel (4055 posts) -
#38 Posted by PokeIkzai (385 posts) -

Fanboys will be fanboys. It's not surprising.

#39 Posted by dragonzord (811 posts) -

@Milkman said:

I'm just incredibly thankful that this kind of stuff doesn't happen here

Should I pull up the Marvel vs Capcom review or the BlazBlue review?

#40 Posted by Gabriel (4055 posts) -

@zoner said:

@Milkman said:

I'm just incredibly thankful that this kind of stuff doesn't happen here

Should I pull up the Marvel vs Capcom review or the BlazBlue review?

I already put up the ME2 Gamespot shitstorm I think that one says it all.

#41 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

I know how you feel dude, although i don't interact with fanboys that much. But go on youtube (or almost anywhere on the web), you can really meet some stupid, ignorant people. And the fact that they make me mad, is what makes me the bigger idiot.

#42 Posted by TomA (2531 posts) -

If you name your thread something so drastic, you better deliver on people's expectations when they click on it. Stating that the internet is wrong because of people's reaction to a review is blasphemy. There are plenty of bad things on the internet, but nothing wrong with the web itself. It's the people that use it, and how they do so, that causes problems.

#43 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -

Oh wow

#44 Posted by McShank (1629 posts) -

Cant wait for GB's score to come and it magically hits a 4/5.. Wonder if people would go ape shit over that score also..

#45 Posted by Wikitoups (773 posts) -

@2HeadedNinja said:

@Slaker117 said:

People are complaining about a game getting an 8 out of 10? I'll have to double check my math, but that seems like a pretty good score...

Thats why point-systems to rate games are stupid ... even the 5-Star rating on GB. I wish everyone would ditch that and just write a review and maybe a list with some pro's and con's.

Tbh. I was at some point hoping that GB would kill the rating system but thats probably too much to ask.

People would them complain about the pros and cons

Honestly If your very interested in the game, buy it. I get that $60 is kinda alot to spend on games but you should get it if your very interested in the game. Not sure? wait for a price drop ( or game of the year/complete edition).

Review Numbers? Just go with Bad, Good, Great.

#46 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

@McShank said:

Cant wait for GB's score to come and it magically hits a 4/5.. Wonder if people would go ape shit over that score also..

Uh, it's been reviewed a few days ago. 5/5.

#47 Posted by Milkman (16514 posts) -

@zoner said:

@Milkman said:

I'm just incredibly thankful that this kind of stuff doesn't happen here

Should I pull up the Marvel vs Capcom review or the BlazBlue review?

If you think either one of those was as bad as this, you're kidding yourself.

#48 Edited by Milkman (16514 posts) -
#49 Posted by Suedehead (110 posts) -

Keep in mind these people are complaining about review scores for a game that they haven't even played yet.

#50 Edited by mnzy (2911 posts) -

The thing is...I agree with the points Eurogamer raised. The cinematification(?) of games is absolutely not my thing and nobody seems to acknowledge its downsides. And they didn't either, they merely mentioned it.

Also, many gamers are the type that want to be hyped all the time about new releases. They suck up hype up like a sponge. It's pretty insane what anticipation for something like a game can achieve and how it basically destroys the ability to be objective.

And I'm not talking about NeoGAF here, it's everywhere. You'll see when Giantbomb gave BF3 and MW3 their scores.

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