Valve Upgrading Steam's Backend, Teases Dota 2 'Soon'

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Posted by patrickklepek (2212 posts) -
Artwork from the game is among the small pile of details we know about Valve's plan for Dota 2.

Downloading a game as big as The Witcher 2--13.9 GB!--is going to take longer than a lunch break. Valve's hoping to improve the overall speed of Steam with a tweaked backend, which the company detailed in a blog post that goes into the nitty gritty tech details behind it.

In summary: downloading games and other content off Steam is going to get faster. HD trailers featured on Steam are already piping through the new content delivery system, with the first major stress test being Dota 2.

That game's been announced for a while now, but Valve hasn't shown what it looks like or said when we'll play it.

"Over time, more and more of the content on Steam will be delivered using this new system," said the company. "Soon, Dota 2 will be delivered using it."

Dota (Defense of the Ancients) is a strategy game that first showed up as a mod for WarCraft III, where players control incredibly powerful singular units. The mod spawned a genre unto itself, with games like League of Legends taking the concept, running with it--and monetizing it, to boot.

Rumors have pointed to an official unveiling of Dota 2 at next months' Gamescom event in Germany.

If you're still confused about Dota, just watch this. Makes sense, right?

#1 Posted by patrickklepek (2212 posts) -
Artwork from the game is among the small pile of details we know about Valve's plan for Dota 2.

Downloading a game as big as The Witcher 2--13.9 GB!--is going to take longer than a lunch break. Valve's hoping to improve the overall speed of Steam with a tweaked backend, which the company detailed in a blog post that goes into the nitty gritty tech details behind it.

In summary: downloading games and other content off Steam is going to get faster. HD trailers featured on Steam are already piping through the new content delivery system, with the first major stress test being Dota 2.

That game's been announced for a while now, but Valve hasn't shown what it looks like or said when we'll play it.

"Over time, more and more of the content on Steam will be delivered using this new system," said the company. "Soon, Dota 2 will be delivered using it."

Dota (Defense of the Ancients) is a strategy game that first showed up as a mod for WarCraft III, where players control incredibly powerful singular units. The mod spawned a genre unto itself, with games like League of Legends taking the concept, running with it--and monetizing it, to boot.

Rumors have pointed to an official unveiling of Dota 2 at next months' Gamescom event in Germany.

If you're still confused about Dota, just watch this. Makes sense, right?

#2 Posted by HT101 (1184 posts) -

Heck yeah this is great.

#3 Posted by Colt45 (57 posts) -

DOTA 2 WTF

#4 Posted by 014 (348 posts) -

I just installed Saints Row 2 the other day from Steam. It was 12GB. That took a while even at 1.5MBps.

#5 Posted by JEC03 (919 posts) -

Great news.

#6 Posted by Rolyatkcinmai (2699 posts) -

Sounds cool. Steam already downloads at a crazy fast pace for me though. I've seen 4MB/s before and who can really ask for more than that?

#7 Posted by DJJoeJoe (1334 posts) -

I'm pretty excited about the changes to steam, I always love updates and this seems like a significant one.

#8 Posted by NDN_Shadow (123 posts) -

After getting into these DotA style games with LoL, I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

#9 Posted by Vonocourt (2167 posts) -

Ahh Basshunter, still entertaining after all these years.

#10 Edited by TorMasturba (1089 posts) -

first

EDIT: darn

#11 Edited by Aetheldod (3731 posts) -

But ... but what about Half life 3??? (Sorry folks it was unavoidable someone was prone to ask :P ) So faster downloads for Steam? that is good , that means faster reasons to spend on more Steam sales .... I wonder who's wallet is going to last any longer

#12 Posted by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

Yaaay... Dota 2...

#13 Posted by boylie (306 posts) -
@TorMasturba not even CLOSE
#14 Posted by achoyq (127 posts) -

Dota 2's gotta be free to play right? Might try if it is.

#15 Posted by Wildfire570 (719 posts) -

So what that video is saying that if I play DotA then I'll be able to get into clubs? Umm...okay I guess.

#16 Posted by Seedofpower (3949 posts) -

half life 2

-ep.1

-ep.2

Left 4 Dead 2

Portal 2

Dota 2

Team fortress 2

Counter strike: Source (2)

God damn it Valve..... I starting to think you are doing this on purpose. Waiting for the next big engine release before counting to 3?

I hope so.

#17 Posted by Chet_Rippo (238 posts) -
@achoyq
With League of Legends being free to play they're going to have to make dota 2 free to compete. Though I don't think it's official yet.
#18 Posted by phrosnite (3518 posts) -

DOTA 2 will be F2P for sure but I'm afraid Valve will go the LoL way instead of staying true to the DotA hardcoreness(?). I'll keep an eye on it but I'm ready to be disappointed.

#19 Posted by crusader8463 (14429 posts) -

You left out the coolest part about this new download system. Apparently before whenever you would download an update that needed to change some aspect of say a 10 mb file, the way it works now you would have to download the entire 10 mb file again. In this new method they are going to use, you will only have to download the part of the file that changes. So it will cut the update sizes down considerably in some cases.

#20 Posted by Tylea002 (2295 posts) -

The max DL speed I tend to get on my internet is 350 kb/s,

I hate my internet.

#21 Posted by Chris2KLee (2338 posts) -

Just started playing League of Legends last week, my first DotA style game. Loving it so far and really interested to see what Valve has to offer.

#22 Posted by Vexxan (4614 posts) -

Love me some Basshunter.

#23 Posted by Brockly46 (645 posts) -

after the video, all is clear

#24 Posted by Animasta (14725 posts) -

the video made nothing clear! other than they use ventrilo

#25 Posted by probablytuna (3824 posts) -

@Tylea002 said:

The max DL speed I tend to get on my internet is 350 kb/s,

I hate my internet.

Same here... Australia sucks, especially in my area.

#26 Edited by Poki3 (529 posts) -

Am I the only one that's annoyed that the game is still called DotA 2?

#27 Edited by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

@Seedofpower said:

half life 2

-ep.1

-ep.2

Left 4 Dead 2

Portal 2

Dota 2

Team fortress 2

Counter strike: Source (2)

God damn it Valve..... I starting to think you are doing this on purpose. Waiting for the next big engine release before counting to 3?

I hope so.

Sounds like March 3rd 2013, they'll start rolling out the 3rd installment of every game the 3rd of every month.

That would be pretty nuts.

#28 Edited by ProjektGill (753 posts) -

I need to upgrade my internet soon or downloading games really fast won't matter if they use up 20% of my monthly cap. Also Basshunter is great live.

#29 Posted by buft (3320 posts) -
@Chris2KLee said:

Just started playing League of Legends last week, my first DotA style game. Loving it so far and really interested to see what Valve has to offer.

how are you finding the general community, I've always been interested in these games but my understanding is that they arent very understanding of new players.
#30 Posted by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -

While yes DOTA 2 is nice, I would like to see some HL3 plz!

#31 Posted by Shivoa (645 posts) -

Hopefully part of this new system will enable people to pick their DLC to download. While I appreciate the rapid addition of DLC to the system when the need was made clear to support it, there is no ability to pick what you download. Maybe the DLC changes something in the game and you want to experience it vanilla, maybe you just want a faster download as you'e only going to be on a PC for a few hours (or are running out of HDD space). From what I can figure out there is no way of telling Steam to not download everything when you ask it to install the game (you can tell it to not update and so stop both patches and DLC from being downloaded but then you block patches and have to have done an initial download before buying the DLC).

To take the worst example of this I've experience, I have Frozen Synapse and the soundtrack DLC. To download the 200MB of FS I am forced to also download my purchased DLC with it, that comes with mp3s, FLACs, and even wavs. All 1GB of them. Literally! When logging into my account on a new PC for a quick game of something I have to grab a 1.2GB block and wait for it to all download before playing my 200MB game. I could really do with the ability to tell it to only download the core game.

#32 Posted by CheapPoison (742 posts) -

wow wait, Steam is already crazy fast!

#33 Posted by Dan_CiTi (3524 posts) -

I really hope Dota 2 comes out and is fantastic and kicks the ass off of every other game in the sub-genre, it could probably get me into those games. 

#34 Posted by Sharpshooter (891 posts) -

Wait could this be whats causing my log in problems, cause I've been locked out of my account since yesterday, and when I try to get back in Steam says my account isn't there. That despite the fact that my steam profile page is still perfectly intact.

#35 Posted by Sjupp (1911 posts) -

HUR KAN BASSHUNTER - DOTA "INTE VISAS I MITT LAND"!?

#36 Posted by Winternet (8055 posts) -

By soon, Valve means 2013.

#37 Posted by RiotBananas (3600 posts) -

Soon is anywhere between 2-9 years right?

#38 Posted by smellylettuce (139 posts) -

About time Steam did some squats.

#39 Posted by Xpgamer7 (2400 posts) -

@crusader8463: That's awesome. It'll avoid issues like the witcher 2 update problem.

#40 Posted by rufo (61 posts) -

Basshunter's DoTA is my summer jam, yo!

#41 Posted by Aaron_G (1617 posts) -

I am glad they are doing this. I don't have the fastest ISP so downloading on Steam can be a chore sometimes.

#42 Posted by TheMustacheHero (6655 posts) -

DOTA 2 get hype?

#43 Posted by Duffman (208 posts) -
#44 Posted by jagenheim (150 posts) -

@Sjupp said:

HUR KAN BASSHUNTER - DOTA "INTE VISAS I MITT LAND"!?

StrongVPN.com är din vän. :p

#45 Posted by NDN_Shadow (123 posts) -
@buft said:
@Chris2KLee said:

Just started playing League of Legends last week, my first DotA style game. Loving it so far and really interested to see what Valve has to offer.

how are you finding the general community, I've always been interested in these games but my understanding is that they arent very understanding of new players.
There's always people talking trash in game, but it still works because matchmaking makes it so that you usually get matched with people your skill level. I say usually because there are instances where a guy with 500+ games parties with a guy with 6, then proceeds to carry the entire team. 
 
If you want to get into DotA-style games, I'd recommend League of Legends. It has the largest player base and matchmaking, and the community isn't has hardcore as original DotA or Heroes of Newerth.
#46 Posted by DonPixel (2627 posts) -

@NDN_Shadow said:

After getting into these DotA style games with LoL, I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

Don't get your hopes to high dude.. Icefraud is behind this .. ughh.

#47 Posted by raiz265 (2242 posts) -
@Duffman said:
Nice water elemental.
That's what it is basically. The Morphling in the original DotA had the Warcraft 3 model of a water elemental.
#48 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -
#49 Posted by akaDK (4 posts) -

I need a bigger drive for my desktop! Yesterdays raptor drives feel so stupid with todays ssd:s

#50 Edited by Bollard (5863 posts) -
@TorMasturba said:

first

EDIT: darn

Best fail ever. 
 
@Tylea002 said:

The max DL speed I tend to get on my internet is 350 kb/s,

I hate my internet.

You're joking, right? See that number, take it and divide it by 7. That's what I put up with. 350 kb/s is good. 
 
@crusader8463 said:
You left out the coolest part about this new download system. Apparently before whenever you would download an update that needed to change some aspect of say a 10 mb file, the way it works now you would have to download the entire 10 mb file again. In this new method they are going to use, you will only have to download the part of the file that changes. So it will cut the update sizes down considerably in some cases.
Thank god! I'm sick of TF2's daily 150mb updates...

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