Are Nappa and Vegeta friends?

#1 Posted by Vinny (1602 posts) -

Should Vegeta be considered a friend to Nappa considering he blew him up in the end? I didn't see him shed any tears for his old mentor...

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#2 Posted by Soopy (46 posts) -

no. Vegeta uses people. For example, Bulma. Vegeta wanted a kid so BAM he got one.

#3 Posted by KindGalaxy (429 posts) -

It wasn't really Saiyan culture to have friends it seemed.
Vegeta kind of changed though, I mean what he did in the Buu saga, knocking Trunks and Goten unconcious to sacrifice himself was that changing point for him, as he said he learnt love. So before that, he did not know love, so couldn't have realised friendship and that'd probably be across all Saiyan's frame of minds so Nappa probably didn't consider Vegeta a friend either.

#4 Posted by babblinmule (1262 posts) -

Vegeta and Nappa could have possibly been friends. However, the saiyans believed in the 'only the strong survive' philosophy, and since Nappa had just been torn apart by a reborn Goku, Vegeta thought that Nappa was too weak to deserve to live.

#5 Posted by Azteris (810 posts) -

Vegeta and Nappa could be considered friends by the standards of the Saiyan culture though. What defines friends to our culture is different than this barbaric culture of warriors. Vegeta could have easily thought at that point in the story that he was doing Nappa a favor by killing him after he was shamed by being beaten by Goku. It's hard to tell, but I think we could consider them friends, if nothing else on a very BASIC level.

#6 Posted by ThaMilkMan (343 posts) -

no....haha thats it

#7 Edited by geneticgamer (48 posts) -

Considering Vegeta kills NAPPA in cold blood i doubt it

#8 Posted by ReTarDedFisHy (1062 posts) -

ReTarDedFisHy was never sure about the relationship between Vegeta and Nappa.  Never considered them as friends, but more as "partners in "crime" or lack thereof. Saiyans believed that only the strongest survive, and since Nappa got whooped by Goku, maybe it was just a send-off.

#9 Posted by hidys (1029 posts) -

Nappa did seem pretty frustrated when he saw Vegeta in GT when he came to Earth...

#10 Posted by KindGalaxy (429 posts) -
Azteris said:
"Vegeta and Nappa could be considered friends by the standards of the Saiyan culture though. What defines friends to our culture is different than this barbaric culture of warriors. Vegeta could have easily thought at that point in the story that he was doing Nappa a favor by killing him after he was shamed by being beaten by Goku. It's hard to tell, but I think we could consider them friends, if nothing else on a very BASIC level."
Is Saiyan culture really barbaric? I know you said warrior culture is barbaric but is Saiyan culture? The act of going from world to world, evaluating a culture, testing them physically, destroying the weak and allowing the strong to continue into the ranks of Vegeta's father and later Freiza's father seems advanced for a barbaric culture. Evaluation in the same regard would mean Vegeta is naturally superior to Nappa, being royal blood, he is the default stronger warrior, he held Goku in such small regard; he would've seen Nappa in similar low regard, Goku's brother, Raditz, was also held in such low regard. Goku was a 'lower class warrior' and if Saiyan culture was blood/heritage based then Radditz was also a low class warrior. Friendship is a basis of trust and respect as an equal, there was no equal to the Prince of Saiyans and so friendship could never have been a connection between Vegeta and Nappa, a hierarchy of order was in place. Vegeta was the superior, by blood and Nappa was the inferior, by blood.
#11 Posted by Tebbit (4450 posts) -

I think that had Nappa worn any shorter or tighter plastic fantastic, full body thermal Pajamas, they could have been very special friends indeed.
As it stands, his death put bald people back 20 years.

And Vegeta was a bit criminally insane for most of the series of DBZ, so 'm gonna say no.

#12 Posted by Termite (2398 posts) -

He's the closest thing to a friend any of the regular Saiyans could have.

#13 Posted by AnonymousLegion (64 posts) -

Vegeta doesn't have "friends".

#14 Posted by Azteris (810 posts) -
KindGalaxy said:
"Azteris said:
"Vegeta and Nappa could be considered friends by the standards of the Saiyan culture though. What defines friends to our culture is different than this barbaric culture of warriors. Vegeta could have easily thought at that point in the story that he was doing Nappa a favor by killing him after he was shamed by being beaten by Goku. It's hard to tell, but I think we could consider them friends, if nothing else on a very BASIC level."
Is Saiyan culture really barbaric? I know you said warrior culture is barbaric but is Saiyan culture? The act of going from world to world, evaluating a culture, testing them physically, destroying the weak and allowing the strong to continue into the ranks of Vegeta's father and later Freiza's father seems advanced for a barbaric culture. Evaluation in the same regard would mean Vegeta is naturally superior to Nappa, being royal blood, he is the default stronger warrior, he held Goku in such small regard; he would've seen Nappa in similar low regard, Goku's brother, Raditz, was also held in such low regard. Goku was a 'lower class warrior' and if Saiyan culture was blood/heritage based then Radditz was also a low class warrior. Friendship is a basis of trust and respect as an equal, there was no equal to the Prince of Saiyans and so friendship could never have been a connection between Vegeta and Nappa, a hierarchy of order was in place. Vegeta was the superior, by blood and Nappa was the inferior, by blood.
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I don't know what you're talking about as far as evaluating a planet, eliminating the weak (which is still killing possibly innocent people), and then allowing the rest in the ranks. You make it sound so cheerful and great for them. I'm sure it was much closer to a "Well, you could come with us and work for me for the rest of your life, or I could just kill you right now". From all the footage of the Saiyans as a whole, they were a crude barbaric race of warriors. Also mind you, that Vegeta referred to Saiyans as a warrior race many times. This is why Raditz was so astounded to find Goku how he is, so carefree and lighthearted.
#15 Posted by RVonE (4607 posts) -

Awesome. I didn't know this stuff went this deep.

#16 Posted by skywing (1153 posts) -

Vageta was Nappa's commanding office so No they were not friends.  A good example is Vinny what you are to me, you are my commanding officer and can kill me at any time you wish.

#17 Posted by Gearhead (2251 posts) -

Vegeta could be considered Nappa's friend, but the sayian culture has the philosophy that only the strong live. Vegeta found Nappa weak, and killed him, but never mentioned anything of a broken friendship. Also, Vegeta has quite a quick temper, so he usually acts without thinking.

#18 Posted by NateDogg (465 posts) -

I wouldn't exactly call them friends....

More like commerades.. but clearly Nappa would grovel to Vegeta if he had to. He's a freakin Saiyan Prince..!

Also Vegeta by far is the BEST character in the entire Dragonball Z series !

#19 Posted by Orange_Pork (583 posts) -

Vegeta straight up killed Nappa in his face. Twice.

And it's not like he does that to everyone. He has respect for Goku, Trunks, the humans, etc. But Nappa he just iced in cold blood in DBZ, and then again later on. Gotta be enemies.

#20 Posted by AutomaticSnake (390 posts) -

They were never friends. At first they were just two bad dudes killing people around the galaxy. Vegeta didn't care for him cuz bad dudes dont really have friends. Then Vegeta becomes good so he kills him again cuz nappa is a bad dude for life lol

#21 Posted by MrSerpent (6 posts) -
denshuu said:
Vegeta straight up killed Nappa in his face. Twice.
GT wasn't cannon.

However, even so, didn't Vegeta say "old friend" or some shit the second time around?
It's been years since I watched GT, I doubt I'm correct on that.
#22 Posted by Solid_SnakeXx (1771 posts) -

Its all in the hentai dbz movie where vegeta and napa  do Bulma..

#23 Posted by Mindtwist (49 posts) -

Well, yeah, I'd say they were. But Vegeta just couldn't stand him begging for help, considering he was supposed to be WAY stronger than Goku, so he killed him.

#24 Edited by lemon360 (1102 posts) -

well King Kai made Goku twice as strong as Nappa without Kaioken and then Nappa got his ass whooped . . . hey why didn't goku ever use kaioken in super sayain mode? he woulda wiped the floor with buu freeza and cell

#25 Posted by JJOR64 (18916 posts) -

I think they were until Vegeta got pissed off.

#26 Posted by lemon360 (1102 posts) -
#27 Posted by TheHBK (5466 posts) -

I would say they are not.  Yeah mentor maybe but he just happens to be the other saiyan with him.  Vegeta also didn't like him because he wasn't as smart and didn't know how to fight besides using brute force.  But this brings up the idea that Saiyans are not a particularly friendly or family oriented race.  Sure there are father son relationships but the way vegeta is with Trunks may not be unique to him.  You see how King Vegeta is willing to kill a baby Brolly even though he could be the one to free them from Frieza.  The whole Bardock thing seemed like it was trying to portray him as a good father but he didn't even like Goku because he thought he was weak.  The only friend Vegeta could ever really have is Goku, no one else.  He loves Bulma because she is like him, a spoiled kid who doesn't answer to anyone.

#28 Posted by Tiequan_Barron (21 posts) -

I think you should look at it through Vegeta's eyes what would you do with dead weight and thats what Nappa was "Dead Weight." So get rid of it.

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