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Posted by SpaceCouncil

I have pizza, I have pepsi. Let us commence.

Posted by idoublespy

It isn't that Dan not knowing how to play is frustrating, it's that both Jeff and Brad don't know exactly what they are talking about. It's like they trying to give someone directions by just pointing their finger in the direction they think is the place and saying "over there!"

Posted by Tom_omb

@asmo917: The best way to learn the ins and outs of the game is from more experienced players. Find a helpful, friendly guild. There are a lot of leveling guilds out there that will be helpful to new players in particular.

Edited by DasaKamov

@brianp said:

Brad: "This game is dumb"

Dan: "You play Dota!"

cold blooded

The dark irony here is that they're both pretty much the same game.

::Shifty Eyes::

Edited by theimmortalbum

@sternone said:

So I completely love this feature. But it is pure pain. Holy shit. I think I just needed to say that, out loud, in order to cure the nearly physical, genuine anxiety these videos have caused me. The world needs to know the agony that is watching Dan play WoW for the first time. And I know that is the point - the appeal of this series IS of a complete noob acting like one, being led on by people with enough knowledge to sound like they know what's up, but most of it being out of date and inaccurate. And its amazingly successful in that regard.

But just, it is very difficult to contain my desire to shout NO STOP THAT WHAT ARE YOU DOING OH GOD WHY WHY DAN WHY WHAT WERE YOU THINKING SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THIS SHOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER FOR HIM IF ONLY HE DID THIS ONE THING OH THE HUMANITY.

I feel a little better now. Carry on guys.

Thank you for putting this into words. It's awesome to watch, because yeah, the game (and MMOs) are so involved that if you aren't intimately familiar with them already, they're super tough to get into without a guide. But holy crap is it painful at the same time.

Edited by Kenori

Also known as "People of Giant Bomb Are Only Vaguely Aware of What World of Warcraft Is"

Posted by theManUnknown

I liked the way Brad talked in this video. His accent seemed to come out a bit more in spots.

Posted by Luca717

@fuzzyset: he seems like the type of guy to stick a game through till the end just to say he did it. i would assume he will

Posted by kmaura

I think this is my new favorite GB series, its letting vicariously experience WOW without getting sucked in my self.

Edited by Hassun

I hope the next episode features @rorie as co-host. That'll be great.

@danryckert not getting that someone probably made that character specifically for this stream was great. Welcome to the Giant Bomb community, Dan!

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Posted by Enai
@hassun said:

I hope the next episode features @rorie as co-host. That'll be great.

I agree!

Posted by LarryDavis

@amyggen said:

Were you literally cringing?

I literally did when he released as they killed the boss so he didn't get credit. Mostly just felt bad for the rest of the group having to carry him.

Posted by bobabrowncoat

So. Painful. To watch. But. Can't stop!

Posted by lordofultima

@winsord said:

I guess I'm the only one bothered by how giant Dan has the UI scaled? In a weird way it feels like playing a game with a really low FoV, if that makes any sense. Still having fun watching these regardless, just a minor gripe/something I noticed as a change from last week.

I typically view webpages at like 150% magnification, I'm with Dan in that game UI is way too tiny.

Posted by DrDarkStryfe

Time to tag in the ringer.

We need Matt Rorie.

Posted by Homes

You found Cerebralbutt!?

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Posted by Wolferey

@asmo917: There are some tutorial tips when you start (if they don't show, check the options). The best thing would be to get into one of the capital cities, chat a bit and find a guild or someone willing to mentor you, that'd probably be the quickest way to learn "correctly" (as in, learning from someone with more up to date knowledge, nothing is really wrong, just people expect you to know more since the genre and game is so old now)

Posted by Buddyshrews

I love this series, but I've never wanted to help somebody play a game so much.

Posted by SpaceCouncil

As far as MMO's go, I'll stick with NeverWinter and Vindictus and ESO when it becomes f2p. On a sidenote I've adopted calling people fellas because of Dan.

Edited by goliath553

@rorie Please help this man out! This is fantastic and really makes me want to pick it up again, but he needs some advice!

Posted by elko84

This is difficult to watch

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Posted by Sideshow_Nick

Rorie, save us.

Posted by angry_pants

I find myself yelling at the screen trying to tell Dan what to do, lol.

Posted by kerikxi

As someone who levels almost exclusively through dungeon grinding, watch Dan in his first instance was both hilarious and incredibly painful. At this level I tend to go with tough love, and eventually stop healing/taunting off people like that.

That said, he seems to have genuine enthusiasm for the game. Fundamentally though, MMOs are social games, and the progression is designed around that. Dan should join a guild and ask questions. In fact, we should get a GB guild together on this server.

Posted by luis3rr

I love this game so much. It's really interesting watching someone play for the first time. I find myself with the urge to just get Dan to scroll the camera out so he can see more!

Cant wait for the rest of this series!

Posted by CrimsonJester

not sure if Jeff and Brad are helping or making it worse, their history is so out of date that I think Dan is going to be really confused when Rorie starts to explain how things are now.

Posted by MooseyMcMan

@damswedon: Hahaha, I thought he was just joking! I suppose it could be coincidental, but I'd like to think he was thinking of that.

Posted by Homelessbird

It isn't that Dan not knowing how to play is frustrating, it's that both Jeff and Brad don't know exactly what they are talking about. It's like they trying to give someone directions by just pointing their finger in the direction they think is the place and saying "over there!"

It's the blind leading the headless.

Just let go of your min/maxing instincts and let the nonsense wash over you.

Posted by MariachiMacabre

@asmo917 said:

Honest question for all the veteran WoW players: if I've enjoyed these videos and want to give the game a shot, how do I avoid making the same "mistakes" you complain about? Are there in-game tutorials Dan's ignoring? Should I seek out some external class guide?

As someone who's played WoW for years, you're going to make those mistakes. It's pretty much just a reality of the game. The vast majority of people who play WoW made those mistakes too. For your benefit, I would use reason when you gear yourself (Strength for Warrior and such, Dex to Rogues and Hunters and Intelligence for casters). But don't let the jerks intimidate you into thinking you're not allowed to make mistakes.

Posted by MEATBALL

I found last week's episode super boring, and so far (about ten minutes in) this is much the same. Hope it picks up. :|

Posted by BenderUnit22

Poor @rorie is gonna have a mental breakdown watching @danryckert play in the next video.

Posted by SSully

@mooseymcman said:

To me, the most fascinating part of this is learning about WoW as a game, and getting even more perplexed as to why people play so much of it. But it's not for me, I've known that for a very long time.

"A slight breeze comes by and the ref is knocked out for 45 minutes."

I present to you the greatest moment in our sport.

What is happening to the ref? Is his mind being assassinated?

Posted by ripelivejam
@enai said:
@hassun said:

I hope the next episode features @rorie as co-host. That'll be great.

I agree!

"you know those first couple dozens hours you've learned how to play WoW? FORGET ALL THAT!"

Posted by Giefcookie

@hassun said:

I hope the next episode features @rorie as co-host. That'll be great.

@danryckert not getting that someone probably made that character specifically for this stream was great. Welcome to the Giant Bomb community, Dan!

Get Rorie in for one episode, let him teach Dan as much as he can and then have Drew join Dan for the last episode and as a test let Dan try and explain stuff to Drew.

Posted by ilikeost

This feature is great and I really hope Dan keeps it going past the 30 day trial.

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@castiel said:

Has anyone heard from @buzz_clik!?!

N'awww, that's so sweet that you were worried!

To all those who are clawing and shouting at their screens, and gnashing their teeth in impotent anguish at Dan's gameplay style, just remember: There was a time when you too were the new person on the block, flailing and drowning in a wash of mechanics and nuances, and bearing the churlish scorn of those who came before you. You might see this as a rite of passage, part of the cycle of life; I call it a chance to show some empathy and maybe not come across as a know-it-all.

When I played through Dark Souls for the first time, I refused to look up anything or let anyone tell me stuff that might help in unlocking its dense mysteries. I still think that's the best decision I could have made. I really feel like I got something out of learning and growing and adapting on my own. (My second playthrough, though, I looked everything up. I'm not a lunatic.) So... y'know, just sayin'.

I'm not saying that Dan has to play WoW like this. I'm just saying that maybe people derive joy from their playtime in ways that differ to yours. It's not a competition. We're all just having fun, right?

Ack, it's 3:30AM. Maybe I'm just tired and talking utter horsepoo.

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Posted by KenpachiRamaSama

Dan's teamplay is cringe worthy. Jesus Christ. He is the bad pug in everything ever.

Posted by Jaina_Solo_

Get Rorie in for one episode, let him teach Dan as much as he can and then have Drew join Dan for the last episode and as a test let Dan try and explain stuff to Drew.

Oh, yes. that's a great idea.

Posted by Cogzwell

Dan fought 1 boss in that dungeon

Posted by buzz_clik

Phil Kollar's advice is bang on.

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Posted by MB

I wonder if when he eventually checks his mail he's going to have thousands of gold and items gifted to him just sitting there.

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Posted by ArtisanBreads

I don't blame Dan because he hasn't played an MMO but holy crap he moves around like it's an action game all the time.

Posted by Shnippie
@cogzwell said:

Dan fought 1 boss in that dungeon

You're being generous. Dan was PRESENT for one boss in that dungeon. It's painful to watch, but he's improved a lot over last week. I can only hope the improvement continues. That said, I don't think I learnt the concept of rotations before like level 50, I just hit buttons and hoped. It's probably the most important thing Dan could learn. After he learns to face the enemy he wants to attack.

Posted by Final_Bawse

I don't know how he didn't get yelled at in the dungeon.... that is part of the MMO experience.

And even if you have not played MMO's before, surely you just attack what others are attacking, that part was pretty cringe worthy.

Get someone who knows a bit more about the game, as much as it is fun to watch, I also want to strangle everything in frustration... but it's not that serious I know lol.

I'm trying to put myself in the mind frame of someone who has NEVER played an MMO but as someone who has played games, i find myself thinking "He should know that" alot.

Posted by Lucri

Turn in your quests, Dan! And you're tracking too many! :)

Posted by dvdwalker8

I stopped playing before The Burning Crusade came out so there is so much content and new features that I haven't seen. Part of me really wants to get back into and check it out but the other part knows how utterly consumed by it I would be. I really want to play Dragon Age 3, Far Cry 4, and Sunset Overdrive later this year and some backlog 360 games before then. This would stop me from doing all those things and personally wouldn't be as rewarding as those others would.

It's definitely bringing back some good memories hearing the enemy sound effects and remembering certain bits of the geography. I may get into it again at some point but right now is not a good time.

Looks like they've made finding groups for dungeons and tracking quests a lot better.

I think Rorie should probably get in on the next episode and clear up any confusion Dan might still be having.

I'm also guessing that if he checks his mail he has probably been gifted the largest bags he can use and some pretty sweet gear.

Posted by Elwoodan

I'm fine with everything outside of the fact that he has put hours into this game now and asked how to communicate with people in dungeons. The lower left of the screen is dominated by a chat box, dude.

Posted by LandHawk

"you guys gonna do mario party 2?"

We're just slowly counting down the days until Dan can no longer log in without being bombarded by PMs from random GB fans.

Posted by PhilFancyPants

this is great, i really wish i could experience this game for the first time again. looking forward to the future videos!