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A Look At Battlefield: Bad Company's VIP Map Pack 2

Here's a new map-bearing download for, uh, very important people.

Mar. 29 2010

Posted by: Brad

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Battlefield: Bad Company 2

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@pawsoffury:
i've never had any of these problems and have been happily playing bc2 since it came out and the experience has been miles above that of mw2.. i could not get into any match without it being plagued with glitches and cheats. no fun at all. 
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I really hate Arica Harbour on Rush Mode. I'm really happy they are allowing more modes now. Also, Laguna Presa is an awesome map and should make for a terrific rush map.

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@Woocifer said:

"Wow.... I'd rather not be insulted by this "FREE" content because I bought the game... how about more than 8 maps you stingy pricks? "


may be only 8 maps, but you do realise each one can be at least 3x bigger (in rush mode) than any cod map? in some cases even larger.
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I'm not too dissapointed  because it's free, but I hope the next map pack has some brand new maps.

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They really need to add more new maps. I'm already bored of the few there are.

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Doesn't really bother me that they aren't releasing any new maps yet, still really enjoying these ones.

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I'm pumped.
 
Also the guys who are complaining.
 
Wow. The map is entirely free if you bought the game. Stop whining.

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Looking forward to it a lot!

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Sweeeeet

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Something that clearly should have been on the disc day one. If it's part of their anti-trade-in tactic, cool. But don't promote this shit  as "FREE DLC MAP PACK 2!!!" as if we should be over the moon that we're getting "additional content" for free.

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Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :)
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its the 30th here so when will this be available ?
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crap trailer... just random killing, they at least could have shown some map overviews

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I regret not buying this game. I was gonna but i decided to save it.

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@Rewcastle said:
" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
You're crazy. Fat girls are awesome.
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Good job on releasing stuff that should of came out of the box in the first place, we already had these maps.  Oh well at least it's free.

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MW2 vs BFBC2. FIGHT!

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Now this will be awesome.

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@Rewcastle said:
" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one."
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Anyone has an extra vip code? I bought this game new and used my code on my profile, but my wife also plays the game and she can't play on some of the maps. Frustrating. 

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Wait don't we technically get "new" maps? Seeing as how Laguna Presa is getting a rush mode, that means the map will have to have more than 2 more sections added to it meaning new parts will be added to the map

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I still fail to see how these maps are "free and new".

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@Relys said:
" I still fail to see how these maps are "free and new". "
Maybe because they don't cost anything, and you couldn't play them before?
 
In all seriousness, I haven't seen EA/Dice calling the maps "new maps" anywhere.  The description for the map pack in the store clearly states that it is just unlocking existing maps for play in the other mode.  I also have not seen them calling them "free."  They clearly state that it is downloaded through the VIP service that is included with new copies of the game.
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I cannot wait for this... BF:BC2 is easily the best online game ever made IMO. I bought GoW3 and Just Cause 2 and barely touched them because of this game. Bring on the maps!
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I play this game on the PC and it came with these maps. No VIP code needed.

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@gbodyguard:  It came with the maps for everyone, not just PC. The DLC is that the game modes will be swapped. Glad you watched the video..
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@EgoCheck616: Oh you mean it's conquest for Africa Harbour etc? And this is available for new purchases?
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Ok I just found out: 
 
  PC players will get the content as a game update    
 
So no VIP code necessary. Just to clear up the confusion.  

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Just played my first two rounds of 'Laguna Presa Rush'. 
 
Let me tell you - it's an amazing map. Lush and beautiful. Open and big. Full of amazing setpieces. 
 
Most of all. It feels like a completely new map. A completely new gameplay experience. 
 
Great stuff!

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@Zatoichi_Sanjuro said:
" Something that clearly should have been on the disc day one. If it's part of their anti-trade-in tactic, cool. But don't promote this shit  as "FREE DLC MAP PACK 2!!!" as if we should be over the moon that we're getting "additional content" for free. "
 
Regardless of what the reasons are. Fact is, I can play two new maps. Especially 'Laguna Presa Rush' is a great addition. 
 
And it certainly doesn't feel like just 'the same map in another mode'.
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Good job it's free, that's all i'm gunna say. I sure as fuck wouldn't pay for it.

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hell yeah

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Ok, so I bought the game new and entered the code day 1, do I automatically get this update?  I looked on my hard drive last night,  and the only 2 things under BFBC2 are the installed game and the save file.  I know the code worked because it unlocked certain perks and guns.  Do I have this or not?

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@pawsoffury: 
 
Man, that sounds pretty bad. Never experienced anything like it though. We've got plenty of people who like to play the underdog and join the losing team, sometimes turning the game completely in their favour. May be because of my choice of servers.
 
And then again, I play it on a PC.
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@Andheez said:
" Ok, so I bought the game new and entered the code day 1, do I automatically get this update?  I looked on my hard drive last night,  and the only 2 things under BFBC2 are the installed game and the save file.  I know the code worked because it unlocked certain perks and guns.  Do I have this or not? "
You will still need to go into the story and download the map pack.  It won't automatically download it.
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@metalhead87 said:
" @Andheez said:
" Ok, so I bought the game new and entered the code day 1, do I automatically get this update?  I looked on my hard drive last night,  and the only 2 things under BFBC2 are the installed game and the save file.  I know the code worked because it unlocked certain perks and guns.  Do I have this or not? "
You will still need to go into the story and download the map pack.  It won't automatically download it. "
No, there's nothing to download. They just enabled the ability to play new game modes on existing maps. The maps themselves already reside on the disc. Of course, if you don't have the VIP code from buying the game new, then you'll have to pay to access the "new" content.
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@billygoat117 said:
" @metalhead87 said:
" @Andheez said:
" Ok, so I bought the game new and entered the code day 1, do I automatically get this update?  I looked on my hard drive last night,  and the only 2 things under BFBC2 are the installed game and the save file.  I know the code worked because it unlocked certain perks and guns.  Do I have this or not? "
You will still need to go into the story and download the map pack.  It won't automatically download it. "
No, there's nothing to download. They just enabled the ability to play new game modes on existing maps. The maps themselves already reside on the disc. Of course, if you don't have the VIP code from buying the game new, then you'll have to pay to access the "new" content. "
Ah....alrighty then.   I haven't entered my VIP code yet, so I just assumed there would be a download, even if it was just a few KB's to "unlock" the content.
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@metalhead87 said:
" @Rewcastle said:
" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one." "

Not the case. We were first given news of a "new map pack" - now when we see the real story, it's not a map pack. That was a lie. Or at the very least bending the truth. MW2 being out for nearly 5 months WOULD have been a valid argument, hadn't bc2 try pull off the little "lets bring our map pack out on the same day" stunt. Clearly they'r making a statement by doing so. Trying to reel in the audience to the bc2 side of things. They just did it kinda cheaply. Man i feel so special to be a VIP!! :)
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for everyone saying this aint new maps, its new maps, just old assets.

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@Rewcastle said:

" @metalhead87 said:

" @Rewcastle said:

" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one." "
Not the case. We were first given news of a "new map pack" - now when we see the real story, it's not a map pack. That was a lie. Or at the very least bending the truth. MW2 being out for nearly 5 months WOULD have been a valid argument, hadn't bc2 try pull off the little "lets bring our map pack out on the same day" stunt. Clearly they'r making a statement by doing so. Trying to reel in the audience to the bc2 side of things. They just did it kinda cheaply. Man i feel so special to be a VIP!! :) "
It's exactly the case.   Since the first day the map pack was listed under the coming soon section of the store it has clearly stated what it was.  Just because you saw "map pack," and assumed that it HAS to mean new maps isn't EA's fault.   They have never called them "new" maps.  They have always just said it was unlocking two existing maps in the other mode. Nowhere did they ever use the word "new."
 
 http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/10/how-to-avoid-mapathy-without-paying.aspx##
 
Show me where they say it's going to have new maps.  They clearly state that it is the second VIP map pack that will unlock  Arica Harbor Conquest mode and Laguna Presa Rush mode.
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@metalhead87 said:
" @Rewcastle said:

" @metalhead87 said:

" @Rewcastle said:

" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one." "
Not the case. We were first given news of a "new map pack" - now when we see the real story, it's not a map pack. That was a lie. Or at the very least bending the truth. MW2 being out for nearly 5 months WOULD have been a valid argument, hadn't bc2 try pull off the little "lets bring our map pack out on the same day" stunt. Clearly they'r making a statement by doing so. Trying to reel in the audience to the bc2 side of things. They just did it kinda cheaply. Man i feel so special to be a VIP!! :) "
It's exactly the case.   Since the first day the map pack was listed under the coming soon section of the store it has clearly stated what it was.  Just because you saw "map pack," and assumed that it HAS to mean new maps isn't EA's fault.   They have never called them "new" maps.  They have always just said it was unlocking two existing maps in the other mode. Nowhere did they ever use the word "new."   http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/10/how-to-avoid-mapathy-without-paying.aspx##  Show me where they say it's going to have new maps.  They clearly state that it is the second VIP map pack that will unlock  Arica Harbor Conquest mode and Laguna Presa Rush mode. "

Ok. Your obviously splitting hairs here. The term "map pack", in relivance to gaming, 99% of the time entails your getting a new map and/or maps. This was not the case.
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holy shit, I'm fucking ready. these maps will be a world of difference with the change of modes, I can't wait to check them out. god I love this game, I'll be watching this video all day thank you very much.
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@Rewcastle said:

" @metalhead87 said:

" @Rewcastle said:

" @metalhead87 said:

" @Rewcastle said:

" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one." "
Not the case. We were first given news of a "new map pack" - now when we see the real story, it's not a map pack. That was a lie. Or at the very least bending the truth. MW2 being out for nearly 5 months WOULD have been a valid argument, hadn't bc2 try pull off the little "lets bring our map pack out on the same day" stunt. Clearly they'r making a statement by doing so. Trying to reel in the audience to the bc2 side of things. They just did it kinda cheaply. Man i feel so special to be a VIP!! :) "
It's exactly the case.   Since the first day the map pack was listed under the coming soon section of the store it has clearly stated what it was.  Just because you saw "map pack," and assumed that it HAS to mean new maps isn't EA's fault.   They have never called them "new" maps.  They have always just said it was unlocking two existing maps in the other mode. Nowhere did they ever use the word "new."   http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/10/how-to-avoid-mapathy-without-paying.aspx##  Show me where they say it's going to have new maps.  They clearly state that it is the second VIP map pack that will unlock  Arica Harbor Conquest mode and Laguna Presa Rush mode. "
Ok. Your obviously splitting hairs here. The term "map pack", in relivance to gaming, 99% of the time entails your getting a new map and/or maps. This was not the case. "
God this quote is getting huge.    Anyways, I've already said you claiming it's not a map pack is nothing more than arguing semantics.   Maybe 99% of the time "map pack" does mean new maps....that doesn't matter at all.  EA/Dice didn't try to hide what was in this map pack.   I already stated that you obviously saw the term "map pack," and assumed it had to be new maps.  Even though EA has clearly stated what it is.  
 
I also don't see how I'm "splitting hairs."   Your initial complaint was that they were trying to "con us" by calling it a map pack, but no new maps were in there.  I'm just saying there is no reason for you(or anyone else) to have thought this had new maps in it.
 
I would agree with you on this if EA/Dice hadn't told what this map pack was from the start and tried to make people think it had new maps in it, but they didn't do that at all.   It unlocks maps(existing) to play on game modes that you could not play before, so I have no problem with calling it a "map pack."
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@metalhead87 said:
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" @metalhead87 said:

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" @Rewcastle said:

" Um What? BC2 is my favourite 360 game just now - i play it non stop. But c'mon! Am i the only one feeling let down here? The maps included on the disc are brilliant in my opinion. So stop trying to con us by calling it a "map pack". It's simply not the case. All it does is unlock the ability to play different modes on existing maps. I'd rather not have this at all than get lied to. Simply put, i'd rather go home with no girl than a fat girl. I MUCH prefer BC2 to MW2 but i'm sorry, MW2 wins this one for actually delivering new maps. Stop trying to pull wool over your fan's eyes folks and give us NEW content :) "
How are you being lied to?   Since this was first mentioned they have clearly stated what it was.   Saying it's not a "map pack" is just arguing semantics.  And as far as "mw2 winning this one" goes,  MW2 has been out close to 5 months.  BC2 has been out one month.    In four more months if BC2 still hasn't released new maps, then you could argue that "MW2 won this one." "
Not the case. We were first given news of a "new map pack" - now when we see the real story, it's not a map pack. That was a lie. Or at the very least bending the truth. MW2 being out for nearly 5 months WOULD have been a valid argument, hadn't bc2 try pull off the little "lets bring our map pack out on the same day" stunt. Clearly they'r making a statement by doing so. Trying to reel in the audience to the bc2 side of things. They just did it kinda cheaply. Man i feel so special to be a VIP!! :) "
It's exactly the case.   Since the first day the map pack was listed under the coming soon section of the store it has clearly stated what it was.  Just because you saw "map pack," and assumed that it HAS to mean new maps isn't EA's fault.   They have never called them "new" maps.  They have always just said it was unlocking two existing maps in the other mode. Nowhere did they ever use the word "new."   http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/10/how-to-avoid-mapathy-without-paying.aspx##  Show me where they say it's going to have new maps.  They clearly state that it is the second VIP map pack that will unlock  Arica Harbor Conquest mode and Laguna Presa Rush mode. "
Ok. Your obviously splitting hairs here. The term "map pack", in relivance to gaming, 99% of the time entails your getting a new map and/or maps. This was not the case. "
God this quote is getting huge.    Anyways, I've already said you claiming it's not a map pack is nothing more than arguing semantics.   Maybe 99% of the time "map pack" does mean new maps....that doesn't matter at all.  EA/Dice didn't try to hide what was in this map pack.   I already stated that you obviously saw the term "map pack," and assumed it had to be new maps.  Even though EA has clearly stated what it is.    I also don't see how I'm "splitting hairs."   Your initial complaint was that they were trying to "con us" by calling it a map pack, but no new maps were in there.  I'm just saying there is no reason for you(or anyone else) to have thought this had new maps in it.  I would agree with you on this if EA/Dice hadn't told what this map pack was from the start and tried to make people think it had new maps in it, but they didn't do that at all.   It unlocks maps(existing) to play on game modes that you could not play before, so I have no problem with calling it a "map pack." "

Exactly. It's a gamemode unlock, not map pack. Makes as much sense as calling it a chocolate brownie. Them claiming its a map pack (as we know it) is the lying part. In the end i don't really care, its free. They just need to be careful with their wording. Having said all this, i tried the new vip chocolate brownie and its pretty good
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@Rewcastle:    I used reply instead of quote because it was just getting too huge. :p     You basically just said what I've been saying the whole time.   That's just semantics.   Calling them liars is ridiculous because they didn't lie about anything.  They used the term "map pack," and you don't agree with that term......semantics.    
 
As I've said multiple times, they've never said it contained new maps, so there were no lies involved.  Personally, as long as they never tried to hide the fact that it didn't have new maps, I see no problem with calling it a map pack.
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MAP PACK!!!!!!!!!
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@metalhead87 said:
" @Rewcastle:    I used reply instead of quote because it was just getting too huge. :p     You basically just said what I've been saying the whole time.   That's just semantics.   Calling them liars is ridiculous because they didn't lie about anything.  They used the term "map pack," and you don't agree with that term......semantics.      As I've said multiple times, they've never said it contained new maps, so there were no lies involved.  Personally, as long as they never tried to hide the fact that it didn't have new maps, I see no problem with calling it a map pack."

Good call. Maybe our definitions of lying differ. Although in my opinions lying = not truth. In THIS case map pack = new maps. Those were not delivered = lie. Either way you look at it though, i'm sure you will admit it is abit of a dick move on their part. I do respect what you are saying. I say it is a pretty interesting subject for discussion. Aslong as the majority of battlefield fans are happy though, i couldnt care less 
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@Rewcastle:  Map pack does not inherently mean new maps. So I completely disagree with that, which is the problem we are having. :p   A map pack can have new maps, it can have remakes of previous maps(like the MW2 one does), and, as in this case, it can add game modes to maps that were not previously playable.  I just don't agree that a map pack absolutely HAS to contain new maps.    I do however think that if it was a map pack that you had to pay for(which isn't the case here) that it should have new maps in it.   Out of curiosity, what would you have preferred for them to call it?
 
Edit:  Forgot to say that my definition of lying would be if they said it was going to have new maps and then it didn't.  You're saying that they lied because they didn't deliver something that they never said they were doing in the first place.    Just doesn't make sense to me.
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@metalhead87 said:
"@Rewcastle:  Map pack does not inherently mean new maps. So I completely disagree with that, which is the problem we are having. :p   A map pack can have new maps, it can have remakes of previous maps(like the MW2 one does), and, as in this case, it can add game modes to maps that were not previously playable.  I just don't agree that a map pack absolutely HAS to contain new maps.    I do however think that if it was a map pack that you had to pay for(which isn't the case here) that it should have new maps in it.   Out of curiosity, what would you have preferred for them to call it?  Edit:  Forgot to say that my definition of lying would be if they said it was going to have new maps and then it didn't.  You're saying that they lied because they didn't deliver something that they never said they were doing in the first place.    Just doesn't make sense to me. "

Just call it additional content? Add on? Anything that doesnt suggest it might be new maps. Like i said, should be open for discussion.
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@Rewcastle:   That's the thing to me though.    They didn't at all suggest there was any new maps.   Personally, I can't think of a concise way to say what it is exactly without someone possibly misunderstanding it.   Calling it "additional content/add on" would just make people say, "There was nothing added on it's all just stuff that was already on the disc."  I think they way they handled it was just fine.