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Posted By sissylion

@ArtisanBreads: That question is irrelevant. I decried colonialism, not the merits of white civilization. Had another race committed similar crimes in the place of Caucasians, they would still be just as bad.

And Genghis Khan is an extremely specific example. Practically all other conquerors who tried to accost Western Europe failed entirely. Furthermore, the areas where Khan attacked have recovered for the most part, excluding the Middle East. The effects of white colonialism are still visible today.

And furthermore, people have done terrible shit in the "modern era." The Belgian Congo, South Africa, Mozambique, Angola, and countless other countries have suffered injustice at the hands of insurgents in the past century.

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Posted By ArtisanBreads

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads: In a sense, yes. The way their lorded their white skin and their white customs and their white mentalities over those who were heterogeneous and how they eradicated cultures, civilizations, and entire races made them evil. That my white skin still gives me a huge advantage over many people in modern society makes it evil.

Time doesn't excuse behavior. The KKK of 1920 isn't in any way more acceptable than the KKK of today's world.

But you missed the point where I said: Would no one else have acted similarly if they were in the situation with the opportunity? Did no one else act similarly on their own scale?

White people are demonized, when for example Genghis Kahn is the greatest mass murderer in the history of the world. There is no perspective.

And your KKK comparison doesn't fly with me because at least we are in the modern era. If we are going back to the times of colonialism there are so many differences I'm not sure where to begin. We are talking about a time where a medical doctor would tell you a black man wasn't a human being like you were. Extremely wrong, yes, but imagine yourself in their shoes before you simply demonize them.

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Posted By sissylion

@ArtisanBreads: In a sense, yes. The way their lorded their white skin and their white customs and their white mentalities over those who were heterogeneous and how they eradicated cultures, civilizations, and entire races made them evil. That my white skin still gives me a huge advantage over many people in modern society makes it evil.

Time doesn't excuse behavior. The KKK of 1920 isn't in any way more acceptable than the KKK of today's world.

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Posted By ArtisanBreads

@Tennmuerti said:

@sissylion said:

@Dagbiker said:

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

You're right. Africa and most of South America are doing awesome right now.

You know at some point it's really hard to make out who is being sarcastic and who is serious in this quote tree.

Btw the African country I live in is doing quite fine thank you, better then some EU countries these days, and it was colonized the fuck out of. Colonialism isn't in and of itself definitively bad or good, it's how you use it and what you make of it afterwards. America didn't turn out too bad either, nor did Australia. Plenty of bad and good examples to go around either way.

Thank you for having an intelligent view point.

People who demonize white colonizers: what about them made themselves evil? Was it their white skin? Would no one else have acted similarly if they found themselves at a great technological and societal advantage to where colonialism was possible? Have no other races ever done anything questionable?

I just HATE people judging others of far different eras from a modern view of morality. It is lazy and foolish.

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Posted By confideration

I have a gift card waiting for this release

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Posted By helloimamlet

Crazy they got the guy who is the HBO preview voice.

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Posted By Y2Ken

This is a very nice little feature, wish it was a little longer. Still, can't wait for the next one.

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Posted By Ujio

Looks better everytime I see it.

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Posted By Saltank

This is looking awesome and I'm really looking forward to it, with the exception of the 20 minute long credits at the end.

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Posted By Funky_Pasta_Tommy

"Making a masterpiece"

It may look great so far, but your "Masterpiece" isn't even out yet you arrogant bastards!

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Posted By ineedmoneyplyr

There are going to be alot of layoffs once this game releases I feel.

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Posted By das9000

30 hours, 2.5 hours of cinematics

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Edited By studnoth1n

real subtle. they titled the goddamn thing "Episode One: Making A Masterpiece" yeah right. the series has been a real boon to the arts-a regular opus of technology and cultural significance... you jerkoffs.

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Posted By Terramagi

Another trailer, another thousand British dead.

I mean, at least he stabbed ONE American... I guess.

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Posted By Dan_CiTi

What's the thing blurred out @ 1:21? A Xbox 420 controller? Hmmm.

Anyway not a bad video besides the annoying overhype BS.

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Posted By sissylion

@Dagbiker: The marvels of the twenty-first century aren't worth the extinction of races.

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Posted By Subjugation

Why did they interview a Navy SEAL?

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Posted By Dagbiker

@kpaadet said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@sissylion said:

@Dagbiker said:

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

You're right. Africa and most of South America are doing awesome right now.

You know at some point it's really hard to make out who is being sarcastic and who is serious in this quote tree.

Btw the African country I live in is doing quite fine thank you, better then some EU countries these days, and it was colonized the fuck out of. Colonialism isn't in and of itself definitively bad or good, it's how you use it and what you make of it afterwards. America didn't turn out too bad either, nor did Australia. Plenty of bad and good examples to go around either way.

While I agree with most of what your saying, I dont think the natives of america would agree with you, also slaves.

Colonialism did some pretty fucked up stuff. But they also took people kicking and screaming into the modern era. Now whether they had a right to do that or not, who knows. But with out them we would not be the world we are today. Nations such as America, Canada and Australia, would not exist because of it.

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Edited By Tennmuerti

@kpaadet: Slavery is indeed a hugely negative part of the colonial era. But lets not forget that slavery is also simply a continuation of serfdom in the feudal system as well as many before it, likewise forced labor under conquerors was not an uncomon thing in human history (ie slavery), and existed long before and after colonialism, as recently as WW2 being a good example. Not that i'm excusing it in any way mind you (just that it's not exclusive to col.). Lot of bad shit went on indeed :(

By i digress, my reply was mostly aimed at the comment on the current state of parts of the world affected by colonization earlier, rather then the shit that happened before.

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Edited By kpaadet

@Tennmuerti said:

@sissylion said:

@Dagbiker said:

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

You're right. Africa and most of South America are doing awesome right now.

You know at some point it's really hard to make out who is being sarcastic and who is serious in this quote tree.

Btw the African country I live in is doing quite fine thank you, better then some EU countries these days, and it was colonized the fuck out of. Colonialism isn't in and of itself definitively bad or good, it's how you use it and what you make of it afterwards. America didn't turn out too bad either, nor did Australia. Plenty of bad and good examples to go around either way.

While I agree with most of what your saying, I dont think the natives of america would agree with you, also slaves.

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Edited By Tennmuerti

@sissylion said:

@Dagbiker said:

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

You're right. Africa and most of South America are doing awesome right now.

You know at some point it's really hard to make out who is being sarcastic and who is serious in this quote tree.

Btw the African country I live in is doing quite fine thank you, better then some EU countries these days, and it was colonized the fuck out of. Colonialism isn't in and of itself definitively bad or good, it's how you use it and what you make of it afterwards. America didn't turn out too bad either, nor did Australia. Plenty of bad and good examples to go around either way.

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Posted By Bollard

@Nihilius said:

1:21 blurred Wii U controller.

Connor the first guerilla fighter? Bullshit, the Scots during and around the Battle of Dunbar(1296) they used hit and run Guerilla tactics.

Weird that they would blur it out when everyone knows what it looks like. Heck I've seen it in person.

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Posted By GERALTITUDE

@FMinus: No way dude, bad fake language is bad.

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Posted By sissylion

@Dagbiker said:

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

You're right. Africa and most of South America are doing awesome right now.

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Posted By AssInAss

@Invertedx said:

Little bit weird that they're already referring to their game as a masterpiece before it's even released. I hope they can back that up.

They can't, it's just PR speak. At the very start it's obvious when narrator says: "One of the most anticipated titles in gaming history" and it will be "truly revolutionary" YOU SO PUNNY PUNISOFT

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Posted By Darth_Mercer

Cute.

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Edited By MeatSim

Real George Washington clearly dropped the ball by not recruiting Connor.

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Posted By Dagbiker

@sissylion said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

Yah, because penicillin really fucked everything up.

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Posted By foxmulder

Played the shit out of 2, started Brotherhood when it came out but only barely. Tried to play it again not too long ago, but just couldn't get back into the AC style of gameplay. I doubt I ever will again!

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Posted By Sombrero_Ninja

Nobody said anything about the "get over here" at the end?

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Posted By Invertedx

Little bit weird that they're already referring to their game as a masterpiece before it's even released. I hope they can back that up.

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Posted By sissylion

@ArtisanBreads said:

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

Humanity probably would be doing a lot better as a whole if colonialism never happened.

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Posted By ArtisanBreads

@deskp said:

@ArtisanBreads said:

@DoctorWelch said:

Why was that dude's hand blurred out?

It might be because he was using an Xbox controller and Sony has had all these exclusivity deals with Assassin's Creed. Part of that could be making sure they don't promote the game with any Xbox ties.

Thats very possible... and a little insane.. it might also be a wii u pro controller and this was edited before it was unveiled?

I suppose that would be possible but I feel like my theory is pretty likely Sony is investing quite a bit in the Assassin's Creed franchise. Exclusives for this game and the Vita game. But you could be right too.

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Posted By Jonny_Anonymous
@Vinny_Says said:

@jaklap said:

I saw a lot of fighting redcoats there...I hope you're fighting both sides like the devs originally said.

Connor is straight up stabbing a blue coat in the video....

These videos are pretty cool, can't wait for the game to come out.

Yea it's the first time I'v seen that
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Posted By captain_max707

Looking forward to more of these, this is really cool! 

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Posted By Jazz_Lafayette

Ameerrrriiiicaaaaaa. AMEERRRRIIIICAAAAAA.

It's a shame so many of those war re-enactors are fucking insane hard-right people.

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Posted By deskp

@ArtisanBreads said:

@DoctorWelch said:

Why was that dude's hand blurred out?

It might be because he was using an Xbox controller and Sony has had all these exclusivity deals with Assassin's Creed. Part of that could be making sure they don't promote the game with any Xbox ties.

Thats very possible... and a little insane.. it might also be a wii u pro controller and this was edited before it was unveiled?

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Posted By viking_funeral

Interesting fact: No one who uses Giant Bomb is older than 59 years of age.

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Posted By MarkWahlberg

I'm just waiting til the Paul Giamatti DLC is announced.

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Posted By ArtisanBreads

@DoctorWelch said:

Why was that dude's hand blurred out?

It might be because he was using an Xbox controller and Sony has had all these exclusivity deals with Assassin's Creed. Part of that could be making sure they don't promote the game with any Xbox ties.

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Edited By DoctorWelch

Why was that dude's hand blurred out?

Also, in the game of thrones you either win, or die.

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Posted By ArtisanBreads

@JDillinger said:

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

Yeah you're right all areas of the world were at peace before Europeans showed up and without colonial meddling we would be living in a Utopia.

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Posted By evanbower

@Arrested_Developer said:

I wonder if this trailer was made by many people of different cultures and religions.

Surprisingly, they outsourced to an entirely Wiccan studio.

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Edited By JDillinger

@ebritt: Well the English are pretty terrible. Most of the problem areas of the world are like that in part because of English and European colonial era meddling.

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Posted By FMinus

@JuggaloAcidman said:

"They used their weapons anyway they could"... "It was life or death". What a great weapons expert to have on staff! He's just full of useful information! You could ask him a question like what kind of weapons to give Conner and he'll give you the hard hitting answer of "stuff"! You'd get a better understanding of weapons from a book then Captain Vague over there!

Well the "language consultant" is also probably waste of resources.

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Posted By JuggaloAcidman

"They used their weapons anyway they could"... "It was life or death". What a great weapons expert to have on staff! He's just full of useful information! You could ask him a question like what kind of weapons to give Conner and he'll give you the hard hitting answer of "stuff"! You'd get a better understanding of weapons from a book then Captain Vague over there!

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Posted By king0fprussia

"revolutionary" get it?

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Posted By Ghost_Cat

Hey, it's revolutionary.

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Posted By Arrested_Developer

I wonder if this trailer was made by many people of different cultures and religions.

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Edited By ebritt

Still seems too black and white in terms of good and evil. In previous games it hasn't been about nation vs nation with one side in the right, it was about individuals on both sides working for the templar, trying to take advantage of the tumultuous situation. Maybe they will have a mission where there is a revolutionary gone bad or something but they seem to be very clearly setting the theme of all red coats are evil.

That said the gameplay looks amazing...

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