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Posted by MariachiMacabre

I'm really not digging how modern artists try to make Batman's outfit look like body armour. It doesn't work. Steel plating or kevlar or whatever it's supposed to be doesn't mesh at all with his stealthy predator shtick. It worked in Injustice because that Batman was in an all out war with Superman, but here it looks out of place.

Hopefully they bring back the Arkham City alternate skins scheme. I'll gladly take any Batman aside from the one Origins designed.

AAAAAAGREED.

The less bulky the costume, the better. But hey, maybe he's wearing that armor specifically because he's fighting Deathstroke. At least, that's my hope because the Arkham City design for his costume was fantastic.

But the inclusion of Roman motherfuckin' Sionis trumps all of that. I'd love to see a civil war between the various crime bosses or go with something like Black Mask II in Battle for the Cowl and have Sionis take control of every crime syndicate in Gotham.

Posted by Mikemcn

I'm really not digging how modern artists try to make Batman's outfit look like body armour. It doesn't work. Steel plating or kevlar or whatever it's supposed to be doesn't mesh at all with his stealthy predator shtick. It worked in Injustice because that Batman was in an all out war with Superman, but here it looks out of place.

Hopefully they bring back the Arkham City alternate skins scheme. I'll gladly take any Batman aside from the one Origins designed.

What I like about Batman is that he is just a dude in a suit, there's nothing superpowerful about him. That's why they give him armor, because otherwise he'd be on the brink of death all the time with the stuff he does. No matter how stealthy, eventually the bad guys are going to get the jump on him. With armor he can take more blows from fists and bullets and survive attacks that would kill most people. So I don't mind it. I did enjoy using the Batman Beyond skin in Arkham city though, so hopefully they'll have alternates.

Edited by Oldirtybearon

@mariachimacabre: Oh don't get me wrong, I'll play this game regardless of how dumb the costume looks. These are great games and they provide a cool alternative view of Gotham's criminals and Batman.

I'm not particularly on the ball when it comes to modern Batman canon (I've read Morrison's run but only started collecting Batman regularly since the New 52 started) but everything I've seen so far of Black Mask and the stated premise (Black Mask hires everybody and their mother to kill Batman) looks like it'll be a great narrative crutch to have Batman fight everything.

I liked Arkham City but it felt unfocused. There were five different plot threads that could've been the main plot, and it didn't all mesh together that well. Hopefully the simpler focus (HEY EVERYBODY KILL THE BAT) and the more "vulnerable" Batman (I imagine that's why it's a prequel/he's younger) should make for some great gameplay and story sequences.

Posted by firecracker22

That's a pretty fucking great trailer.

I know that Rocksteady isn't making this, but I'm too big a Batman fan to not be excited for this. Set to come out right after NYCC, so couldn't be coming at a better time for me.

And seriously, who else other than Kevin Conroy could they get? The man has incredible range, I'd offer up Gotham Knight, the anime short stories dvd release a while ago, as an example of how Conroy could believably portray different versions of Bruce Wayne, all one after another. So, him portraying a young Batman should be a breeze for him.

Edited by TheSouthernDandy

Hell of a trailer. Be interested to see what they add to the Arkham forumla. It would be kind of a bummer if it was more of the same, but at the same time, I'd totally still play that.

Posted by rebgav

Is there a WB mandate to make all of their superhero costumes look as shitty as possible? The designs in Injustice were the absolute worst but this seems like it could be a close second.

Covering the designs in straps and buckles and goofy chunks of space marine armor adds nothing to the characters or the setting and it looks awful and ostentatious, why keep doing it?

Edited by Efesell

@rebgav said:

Is there a WB mandate to make all of their superhero costumes look as shitty as possible? The designs in Injustice were the absolute worst but this seems like it could be a close second.

Covering the designs in straps and buckles and goofy chunks of space marine armor adds nothing to the characters or the setting and it looks awful and ostentatious, why keep doing it?

I think that when part of your thing is that you dress sort of like a bat then there are very few sensible things to be done.

Posted by thatlad

Really entertaining trailer, would make a great movie. As a game, well how the hell do I know. Bit disappointed with the costume, makes think of the movies, as the costume got more intricate the movie quality deteriorated. We're a couple of armoured nipples from disaster here people!

Edited by NoelVeiga

@rebgav said:

Is there a WB mandate to make all of their superhero costumes look as shitty as possible? The designs in Injustice were the absolute worst but this seems like it could be a close second.

Covering the designs in straps and buckles and goofy chunks of space marine armor adds nothing to the characters or the setting and it looks awful and ostentatious, why keep doing it?

I don't think this is horrible (the Nolan Batsuits were all worse), but I agree on the basic point.

Here's a defense of an underrated game: Spider-Man Web of Shadows had superhero costumes I really liked. They all looked like clothing, but were also very textured and wrinkled when they moved in a cool way without losing the silhouette.

Here:

Posted by Triumvir

That sure is a terrible trailer and a really cool animated movie.

Posted by altairre

So Troy Baker has to follow up Mark Hamill huh? That sure is an ungrateful job and I hope he is able to differentiate his version of the character enough that I'll like this depiction of the Joker just as much as I did in AA and AC (that "Only You" song was such a fitting ending).

Posted by Sergotron

yup... Batman.

Posted by SHADOWINFINITE

Yup, I'm pre-ordering

Edited by Parsnip

That batsuit looks pretty awful.

Edited by Delta_Ass

This is impossible, Deathstroke isn't supposed to be fighting up close. He's supposed to stand far away and shoot over and over again with his guns.

That's what Injustice taught me, anyways...

Edited by qUaK3R

Some parts of this trailer just felt like watching a movie. Sick trailer! I'm expecting that batman arkham origins is going to be better then the last 2, so, some companies should put their eyes onto WB Games. It is possible to launch a game in same franchise better than the last.

Posted by GiantAlston

I WANT THIS IN MY LIFE! LIKE NOW!

Edited by Dberg

Between the movies, the brawlers, the fighting game, that shitty mmo and that upcoming moba nonsense, I'm feeling the batman fatigue pretty hard.

Edited by tcsajax

Well hello, uncanny valley. Its been a while.

Posted by Lukeweizer

God that was awesome.

Edited by Bourbon_Warrior

@evilnights said:

@meowshi said:

@evilnights said:

So wait, Batman killed all those dudes?

No. -_-

But he opened a case of explosives in a warehouse full of unconscious dudes, which happened to blow up the warehouse. Looks a little fishy to me!

No, through the miracle of Batman they survived, probably with 3rd degree burns to 95% of their body and missing limbs, but they are breathing, so Batman sleeps well at night in his mansion.

Posted by gokaired

@parsnip said:

That batsuit looks pretty awful.

Well to be honest that's good, it's probably his frst one so it fits, lovin' Black Mask myself.

Deathstroke feels overly armoured yo me but otherwise, nice :)

Edited by jonnyboy

That was an amazing trailer, but I've learned to keep my excitement in check, so was Dead Island's.

Posted by leebmx

Purty sweet trailer. Tells me zero about whether this game will continue the high standards Rocksteady set. But purty sweet all the same......

Edited by sublime90

i'll be getting this. i wonder what other villains will show up

Edited by AnotherSomebody

Very well produced and entertaining for sure, but absolutely pointless and a waste of money and resources. It is not at all representative of the game and serves as nothing more than time filler. It's this type of excess that's put so many publishers in the hole already. Get a better business plan, and while you're at it change the freaking name of the game, it's such obvious pandering that it's embarrassing.

Edited by Ghost_of_Perdition

Looks like that circuit breaker ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) broke him.

I think I'm more interested to hear Troy Baker as the Joker than the game itself.

Edited by CurtMan2k7

if you wanna learn even more about Batman: Arkham Origins . gameinformer.com has a whole month worth of video coverage, with interviews, behind the scenes and game play.. it was their April Cover Story feature. can't wait. oh an confirmed at least 10 Assassins versus Batman. Since they're calling them assassins, can anyone else say Ra's Al Ghul? Only makes sense with a League of Assassins, if u will. and i'm looking forward to the 2-D 3DS and Vita Titles, could be super cool. peace and god speed.

Edited by Agent47

@oldirtybearon: I don't see how, like the body armor look makes more sense in a from a realistic standpoint and in a fictional as well, seeing as he deals with a lot of gun toutin guys. I never digged the skin tight spandex look it's just goofy and absurd, but I'm guessing you had something else in mind? I just don't see what's wrong with the armor look, aside from the armor having a six pack.

Posted by Oldirtybearon

@agent47:

example of good Batman costume

example of bad Batman costume

The key difference between these two designs is that in Greg Capullo's (wonderfully illustrated) design, you get the sense that Batman is wearing some kind of body armour underneath the undefined material/jumpsuit. It's not "spandex" as you say, it's a material that's more durable and rugged. He has armoured gauntlets and boots, and his cowl is more like a helmet than a mask, Capullo's design is careful to "modernize" Batman without sacrificing distinguishing features. From his design you see that Batman is a) theatrical b) shadowy/stealthy c) smart enough not to purposefully draw attention to himself. Capullo's entire design is based around shadowing the Bat with his massive, pitch black cloak and his helmet.

Now as for the Injustice design, as an example, you see something a lot closer to Iron Man 3's Extremis armour prototype. It's mechanical and composed of at least several hundred moving parts. All of them are shiny, as well. It's very "Batman as Iron Man" and draws attention specifically to how shiny Batman is. For a supposed master ninja who utilizes fear, stealth, and misdirection to take down oodles of mooks, that's a heavy contradiction. On a psychological/practical level, it just doesn't work. It feels off. You don't look at that design and say "That's smart of Batman, wearing a tank as his costume." You say "Wow, he must be really shitty at his job to need all that protection."

And that's the crux of it, I think. A well designed Batman costume is designed for stealth first, and theatrics second. Batman is not loud and proud clanking armour against bullets, Batman is quiet. He's a predator. And he'll take a room full of mooks out before they've figured out what's happening.

Posted by yoshisaur

That was a fantastic trailer. Not much to do with the game, but awesome to watch nonetheless. Looking forward to sinking my teeth into another Batman game. I thought I was tired of the franchise back when it was announced, but I feel like it's been long enough for me to enjoy another adventure, as long as the game lives up to Rocksteady's creations.

Edited by ezdude

Fullscreen works now! Oh and this was siiiick!!

Edited by Dasdude

@oldirtybearon: Yeah, this getup really doesn't suit him (pun... intended?). I thought I heard somewhere that the lore justification for his body armor look is that in this game, he has only recently started fighting crime as Batman, so his suit is more pieced together and militaristic. Maybe throughout the game as he gets new gear he'll start looking more traditional?

Edited by Oldirtybearon

@dasdude: That is most certainly an optimistic way of looking at things. It's something I never thought of. When I saw the GI article with the screenshots of the game I was concerned. The good Batman media knows that him being lithe and quiet is integral to the character. The bad Batman media over-designs the outfit and makes his reliance on gadgets a caricature of MacGyver. I guess I was thrown off when I saw him wearing cargo pants with combat boots in those images.

To add to your theory: I think it'd be a neat justification to have Batman steadily remove his armour throughout the game as he deals with situations where the extra crap hinders his ability to perform. It'd be like the final confrontation between Batman and Jean Paul Valley, only not as meta.

Posted by avantegardener

Awesome trailer, got me me pumped for this when I was nearly burned out on Batman shenanigans. ALMOST LIKE THEY PLANNED IT.

Edited by zodstein

That trailer was better than TDKR...

Posted by SpoogeMcduck

Dear sweet, 8lb 6 oz baby Jesus, please make this game not suck.

Edited by Strife777

I'd love to say I'm getting tired of sequels, but with this and AC4, I just can't seem to help but get excited. What can I say? I'm an optimist.

Edited by HaYHaYHaY

Batman just scorpion-ed Deathstroke at 3:11

Edited by Levio

I want to play a Batman game where Batman has the day off from crime-fighting. Maybe he's working on his gadgets, or pushing his Bruce Wayne agenda?

Edited by Slique

Oh man, they completely nailed Black Mask's voice.

Posted by clumsyninja1

So Etzio V.O is Batman now...

Posted by Klager

@oldirtybearon: I agree with you on all the armor, yet I think this Bats looks better than the Rocksteady one. Rocksteady went for the Animated Series look, where he wears a onesie and black briefs with a yellow belt. But their version was way too roided up for that, should've been a sleeker Bats.

When he's this muscular, just put him in some armor, or at least make the suit all black.

Posted by Charlee_CoCo

@oldirtybearon: The reason for making the characters look more detailed is due to the technology. When creating detailed areas like buildings or npcs/enemies that are more realistically rendered than cartoony something like spandex looks too plain and out of place. It lacks the amount of detail that every other part of the world has been given.

Posted by gokaired

@klager: they went for the classic look, though he is a little chunky, i'll give you that ¬.¬

And c'mon, originally yeah it was spandex but latter lore said he wore kevlar under it and then he developed Nano fibre, which is and extremely tough fabric.

I can see where people stand of the trunks but AA/C suit is better for practical reasons, I mean who could move in his Origins suit?:P

Posted by Mabui

It's official, I've decided you shouldn't make a videogame, instead, just make a awesome CG movie.

Edited by TPoppaPuff
@levio said:

I want to play a Batman game where Batman has the day off from crime-fighting. Maybe he's working on his gadgets, or pushing his Bruce Wayne agenda?

So you want a world and relationship building, life simulator that actually has very little to do with the subject matter. You mean like a Harvest Dark Knight? Or more recently, Bat Life?

Posted by brotherstereo

Now ... that is an impressive trailer!

Posted by Roger778

That was a pretty awesome trailer!

I can't wait to see how the gameplay footage looks.

Posted by PhilipDuck

Trailer looked sick...

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