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Posted by ToxicFruit

yey

Posted by Traegan

so close.

Posted by Lukeweizer

also so close.

Posted by moojuice

*sigh*
Still want new maps

Posted by JoeMango

This is not a 'Map Pack' 

Posted by Bummey

This isn't a map pack. This is a pack of existing modes added to existing maps.

Posted by Eribuster

On one hand, I'm annoyed that this wasn't all unlocked from the get go. On the other hand, I have to hand it to them for making a reason to track and come back to the game.

Posted by Contra

Yey and all that.
 
But at some point these map packs should include maps...

Posted by Death_Burnout

Will this pack improve people's competence to defend? oh dip?
 
But i would like actual new maps now.

Posted by Mrbiscuit101

It doesn't matter that i've wanted these maps in these game modes from the beginning, it's still not new maps...

Posted by Mr_Ahh
@Death_Burnout: well that's easy.  
  1. get modern warfare 2
  2. spend $30
 
 

Posted by Cypher
@Bummey:  Yeah, but you can't play the maps and honestly think "This is not new". The rush and conquest versions of all, if not, most, of the maps play so differently that it might as well be a whole new map, but with artwork and some areas that feel a bit familiar.
Edited by misplacedcircus

All the new changes to increase damage, the fact that these aren't real maps, and an overall feeling of being taken for an idiot has left me disinterested. 
 
This 'gaming' crap is starting to suck.

Posted by halfameatball

I think Dice is releasing modes instead of maps so they can work on MoH and pretend like they are supporting BFBC2. I don't think any extra work has gone into supporting BC2. All these modes for the existing maps could have probably been included at release.

Posted by fillmoejoe

I should get back to this.

Posted by armaan8014

lolseys

Edited by MeatSim

I wonder how much work actually goes into these all there doing it seems is rezoning existing maps and adding either capture points or M-COM stations. 

Posted by Bollard

Oh yay new maps that I haven't played before!  
 
In other news, why did they ruin sniping on hardcore? The whole point of hardcore - more realistic, more damage - yet they TOOK AWAY one bullet sniper kills? Fuck that I might as well go to normal mode where I get a radar that points the fuckers out for me and I can take more damage, if I still need to score a headshot to down a guy.

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Posted by NeoGamer

They'll just keep stalling until the release of the Vietnam expansion ¬¬

Posted by Krazy_Croat

While completely new maps would be nice, the Rush and Conquest versions of maps play very differently, so more of these are welcome.

Posted by Death_Burnout
@Mr_Ahh said:
" @Death_Burnout: well that's easy.  
  1. get modern warfare 2
  2. spend $30
 
 

"
I already have it, but hell no! i can't stand Modern Warfare anymore, mostly because of the people who play it. But more importantly, i would happily pay dollars, or in my case, pounds, for new maps in BC, no question. 
 
I am not missing the point that these map/mode changes are free to me, i just want something new, i guess i will wait for the BC Vietnam expansion. Fond memories of the original
Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer

Can't argue with free, I guess. Just wish we didn't have to wait till Vietnam to get new maps.... and only four at that.

Posted by Microshock

The Rush versions of these previously non-rush maps are actually pretty good, they can be considered a new map. 
 
But the rush maps that go backwards to conquest or whatever are just a small chunk of that map, which is stupid. 
 
I'm very disappointed at DICE. Even the guys at Infinity Ward, who have like 3 people left making maps, pumped out two map packs. And they don't even have a good game! 
 
Also, is the stupid lag fixed on the East Coast? I swear, it was like my main enemy in every MP game was that damn rubberbanding lag. 

Posted by EvolutionX0
same maps? ughhh..next.
Posted by Jeffk38uk

Agree with general sentiment, while good maps to enjoy, you kind of wish they made brand new ones instead of modifying existing ones. 
 
Altho the flip side is would we be willing to pay for map packs ala MW2 (not necesarily at the same £10 pricemark)

Posted by jakob187

YEEEES!!!  ATACAMA FOR RUSH!!!  FINALLY!!! 
 
Can't wait!
Posted by PentaCube

 BC2 hasn't felt like a battlefield game because the maps are so confined.  If they eventually release new maps and they happen to be large maps with real room for vehicles I would gladly come back.  I don't see that happening though.    

Posted by AlwaysAngry

When this first came out everybody was saying, 'OMGZ FREE NEW MAPS THANKS DICE BATTLEFIELD PWNZ0R MW2 SUX!!!" And now it's funny to see people actually realizing that DICE and Battlefield aren't the saviors of the world. Sure, I have to pay to get new maps on MW2, but at least they give me the option to get them. DICE just keeps throwing the same old maps at you and calling them new!

Posted by edge426

i dont care about these rehashes of old maps i want new maps its benn almost five months the maps are getting really stale.

Posted by Jethuty
@AlwaysAngry said:
" When this first came out everybody was saying, 'OMGZ FREE NEW MAPS THANKS DICE BATTLEFIELD PWNZ0R MW2 SUX!!!" And now it's funny to see people actually realizing that DICE and Battlefield aren't the saviors of the world. Sure, I have to pay to get new maps on MW2, but at least they give me the option to get them. DICE just keeps throwing the same old maps at you and calling them new! "
you do know that you have to pay 30 dollars, just to get what, 4-5 new maps? rest is literally just copy-paste maps. 
 
I dunno, i rather have free maps than having to pay half the game for 4-5 new ones.
Edited by AURON570

What happened to the old, let's play one map over and over and over again and never complain about it? I honestly don't understand the desire for new maps in FPS games.

Posted by fastidious

Stopped playing this game about a month ago due to boredom with the same maps.  These so-called 'map packs' don't fool anyone. If they can't get some new maps together in a reasonable amount of time (way past that now) they should get that map editor out so the community can.

Posted by MjHealy

I actually might get back into this when this map pack rolls 'round.

Posted by warxsnake
@AURON570 said:
" What happened to the old, let's play one map over and over and over again and never complain about it? I honestly don't understand the desire for new maps in FPS games. "
No one used to complain "in the old days" because every game would have solid mod support allowing for custom community-made maps which often would end up being better than those shipped with the game, also extending the game's life incredibly.. This is not the case with this console port. Moreover, in said old days, games would ship with tons of maps anyway (ut2k4 for example and its massive collection of maps), and not 6 or so maps.  
 
I got tired of the maps in this game 2 months ago, and its not like I sucked at the game either, i stopped due to lack of diversity; and I went back to TF2. 
Posted by Lingxor

I love DICE.

Posted by big_jon

Fucking awsome!
Posted by natetodamax

Why can't DICE make new maps? These aren't map packs, they're modifications.

Edited by HykCraft
@natetodamax: Yes, modifications AND unlocks that's already on the disc. 
 
Oh.. and you are bitching about FREE content. Shhhh....
Posted by CHIEFMEGADETH666

i stopped playing this game...they never added in any real new maps,opening other game mode maps to other game types ain't a Mappack!!!!,they should of had it on release for fuck sakes...its just a unlock
Holding content from us is not a map pack at all!
I played the maps enough so i don't need to play them anymore
Bring out new maps already!
Do they take us for idiots?

Posted by RisingRaiden

It might not be new maps (which I would prefer, I don't want to have to wait until the end of the year for the Vietnam expansion), but atleast they are using two great maps and modes.  Map Pack 3 was terrible

Posted by Xeiphyer
@Jethuty said:
" @AlwaysAngry said:
" When this first came out everybody was saying, 'OMGZ FREE NEW MAPS THANKS DICE BATTLEFIELD PWNZ0R MW2 SUX!!!" And now it's funny to see people actually realizing that DICE and Battlefield aren't the saviors of the world. Sure, I have to pay to get new maps on MW2, but at least they give me the option to get them. DICE just keeps throwing the same old maps at you and calling them new! "
you do know that you have to pay 30 dollars, just to get what, 4-5 new maps? rest is literally just copy-paste maps.   I dunno, i rather have free maps than having to pay half the game for 4-5 new ones. "
They may be releasing the same maps, but those are maps that were previously only for other modes, and they play very differently depending on what mode you play on them. So its pretty awesome, and they are free, so who cares.
 
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Also, this video is totally unrealistic and obviously fake. Nobody would use a spot assist in a real game because they are all fucking retarded. >_>" Nobody spots anymore, and its stupid because its incredibly useful for your team.
 
They probably shouldn't have put it on select though, that button is no fun to reach.
Posted by BulletStorm
@misplacedcircus: I don't think that Dice is trying to play anyone as an idiot here - the basic fact is that one map's conquest mode is a completely different file from the same map's rush mode - they aren't calling them new maps, and they aren't calling them new modes; although it'd be completely in their boundaries to call them new maps, don't you feel respected in the least that they aren't trying to spin this in any other way than "here, we added this game type to this map". 
Posted by Seppli

Yeah - the new maps are great fun. Already played a couple of hours on them. Albeit I could be bickering about many things, like Atacama not being a true tank warfare map.
 
But who am I to argue with fun...

Posted by Cheapoz

This is BS of the highest order.  
 
Yo Dice, I would pay real people money for ACTUALLY new maps! 
 
They've taken far long to do that now.

Posted by BulletStorm

This might also be an unfair comment to make, but, did anyone think about how much longer it takes DICE to make a map than it does Infinity Ward? What with destructible environments and vehicles and what not to account for?  
 
Plus, DICE added that survival mode right? I forget its name though ... but also on the flip side of that Infinity Ward already had a lot of Co-Op stuff... in another mode whose name escapes me right now.  
 
Also, in making comparisons between IF and DICE it might also be important to consider that IF already had map packs in development at launch and dated - whereas DICE's development of BC2:VIETNAM, well, who knows when that started?

Posted by zombie2011

I need to start playing this game again.

Posted by Tarsier

lol 
when are they going to make a new map instead of just adding modes to maps that should have already had them in the first place? 
 
pathetic.

Posted by AlwaysAngry
@Jethuty said:
" @AlwaysAngry said:
" When this first came out everybody was saying, 'OMGZ FREE NEW MAPS THANKS DICE BATTLEFIELD PWNZ0R MW2 SUX!!!" And now it's funny to see people actually realizing that DICE and Battlefield aren't the saviors of the world. Sure, I have to pay to get new maps on MW2, but at least they give me the option to get them. DICE just keeps throwing the same old maps at you and calling them new! "
you do know that you have to pay 30 dollars, just to get what, 4-5 new maps? rest is literally just copy-paste maps.   I dunno, i rather have free maps than having to pay half the game for 4-5 new ones. "
You get 4 new maps, and 4 old favorites. The 4 old ones play vastly differently thought because of all the new features from Modern Warfare to Modern Warfare 2. I rather have the option to pay for new content instead of having old content forced on me, free or not. Yeah, the Battlefield add-ons are free, but that's all they got going for them. It's not like the devs actually took time to make something new. And when they did (onslaught mode,) they made you pay for it! 
 
 
Though it's great that the devs are giving us anything, because of course, they didn't have to, it would be nice if we could get something NEW every now and then. And considering I have to buy the game new to get the add-ons in the first place, it's costing a good extra $20.00-$25.00, so I wouldn't call these "free" add-ons free at all.
Posted by TiE23
@BulletStorm: Actually, making maps in BFBC2 would probably be a lot easier. Buildings are all pre-fab. Other than placing objects, buildings, and using a paint tool to adjust the landscape, there isn't much. Call of Duty still has the arena feel to the level designs, where each room and building must be hand crafted.
 
In CoD, if an area isn't working out, they need to tear apart everything and rebuild it. While BFBC2 would just involve moving around some objects or sculpting some earth.
 
Not that I'm defending CoD, I'm a total BFBC2 nut. It's just that I've had experience designing maps in old Unreal engine games... it isn't easy.
Posted by DrewHughes

Atacama Rush looks like a good time, always wished that map had rush. Pretty pumped for the Vietnam DLC. I wish there was something more for 1943 but hey, maybe that'll come later.

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