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Edited by rcmwoodward

GET HYPE FOR A HADOUKEN!

Posted by Superkenon

@griffinmills: The one catch of your post is that you seem to place all of the responsibility of discussion on the 'defenders', while anyone criticizing Capcom ought simply be understood. You're exactly right that one should stop and consider the other's opinion. Everyone should.

Anyway, I thank you for being the first person to make a thoughtful 'nay' post. If only you weren't an outlier...

Edited by Zevvion

@sooty said:

@raidenmitsuru said:

This is pretty shameless!

No it's not. Read my post for why.

I don't understand people's angst over this, it actually annoys me and I'm not sure why.

edit: It'd be nice if these were truly new characters, as opposed to data mined from SFxT, but still, they will add more flavour to the game, in addition to the balance changes, it sort of gives the game an entirely fresh lifespan.

Again, how dare Capcom update the most popular fighting game on the planet. BASTARDS. Even if data mined from SFxT, this update is still great value, if you're not into SFIV to begin with maybe you should just shut up, because anybody with any interest in playing the game won't have issues with it.

SSFIV from 2010 represented one of the best value propositions in gaming. $40 for so much more content. I think I'll just stop trying to get people to think rationally, because haters are going to hate.

I'm gonna ask you again: Do you people think Capcom have released $60 updates to the game every year with little content added? Because that's the only reason you guys should be reacting so negatively, I broke down everything they added and how much it cost below, if people know all the facts maybe they would stop acting like Capcom killed their grandpa.

I think people would just really like to see one game. Street Fighter IV. Then, in a 6 or 12 months time, Capcom would release a 'Super Street Fighter IV' update that you can purchase digitally for 15-20 bucks and it adds onto your existing copy of Street Fighter IV. Then another a year from that and so on.

I don't know if it's the same where you live, but here, all the updated games still cost 40-60 bucks each time.

Of course Capcom is putting in the work to make it happen, but that's far... far from a full game's effort. It's called an update for a reason. Most of the game and resources used are exactly the same.

People don't think it's shameless just because they release another update. They think it's shameless because they know this update will once again cost a full priced game to get, instead of a more appropriate price for what it is. Also, because you don't need the original to begin with, you are sort of being punished if you are into Street Fighter, because you really want the updated version, but there is no option to get it added on to your existing game. You need to buy a new full fledged game for it.

Posted by shamanultra

@zevvion: The game does have a 15 dollar option if you already own Super SF4.

Posted by MideonNViscera

I sold my stick, and only SF5 would convince me to buy a new one for this gen. I will be a bit sad not to be playing this though.

Posted by mr_grimm

@alexrudz: I thought capcom said when sf 4 came that they wouldn't milk the genre dry like last time, but its almost like it's worse this time.

Posted by AlexRudz

@mr_grimm: in one sense I'm appreciative that Capcom are continuing to support SF4, but I'm not totally sold on how they're doing it. You're right it does feel like a rehash of the old Capcom re-release methods.

I'm also really interested to see how the community reacts to the 'fan-requested' alterations to balancing.

Posted by mr_grimm

@alexrudz: the fighting genre have had a shot in the arm the last years, and I really loved mk 9. But it seems easy to fall into old habits. I hope that capcom doesn't ruin a good thing.

Posted by WiqidBritt

It's ok, it took capcom years to learn to count to 3 in the 90s.

I feel like if they were to to to street fighter 5 then that'd require a complete reworking of the game. 3 was a much different game than 2 and 4 is a much different game than 3.

It's not like adding 5 new characters (even if they're returning from other games) is an 'easy' thing to do. Remember all of the uproar over how much it cost to add a new character to Skullgirls?

Posted by GetEveryone

Do I... do I dare jump back in?

Posted by Brackynews

.

Posted by Kaymai512

@y2ken: its a her...don't you even go there. she looks like a woman, acts like a woman, identifies as a woman, she is a woman. period.

Posted by Griffinmills

@griffinmills:

The one catch of your post is that you seem to place all of the responsibility of discussion on the 'defenders', while anyone criticizing Capcom ought simply be

understood

. You're exactly right that one should stop and consider the other's opinion.

Everyone

should.

Anyway, I thank you for being the first person to make a thoughtful 'nay' post. If only you weren't an outlier...

Hey I tried, thanks for noticing. =) The crazy part is, I'm not a naysayer myself! I'm just trying to help explain, from the impression I've been given, one of the reasons why there are folks that post reactionary negative comments and how they may have gotten there. Heck, there are other reasons that are just as valid if not logical, like, "I just don't like it and I hate seeing iterations of something I hate year after year." Not to rope yet another debate into our ongoing one but I suppose we have to allow for beauty to be in the eye of the beholder if we are to allow for games to be art thus validating the "I just don't like it" crowd just as much as the, "I just plain love it!" crowd.

I think part of my problem was the lack of brevity in my post. As long as my comment was, I actually did quite a bit of pruning to get it down to what we saw, including a paragraph or more on the topic of why the 'nay' crowd had responsibilities on their end that aren't always being held up. It seems I may have over done that pruning a bit! Also, I can see where the consideration part might look a bit proselytizing when I just meant it as it was written, a thing I've found on my own and try to practice. Like anyone I'll do better or worse on any given day, but I try!

Posted by sodapop7

The beating to death of the word hype is why I can't watch anything fighting game related anymore.

Edited by Hadoken101

@zevvion: The only thing that has cost over $15 dollars is Super, and that was because of the amount of stuff they added. Arcade edition you could buy as a $15 add on, ver.2012 was free, and Ultra will be another $15 add on available digitally.

Posted by Superkenon

@griffinmills: It's all good. I probably needn't have said anything at all, as your post was more well-reasoned than something I could've produced myself... but there I was, inclined to nitpick anyway, haha.

Again, I appreciate your thoughts.

Posted by Rolento

Well, obviously I'm excited about the inclusion of Rolento...

Posted by Buttenator

I really hope Hugo isn't ass this time.

Posted by Etryus

I hope the 5th character is Gouken's and Gouki's master. Capcom went already wild with Evil Ryu and Oni, imagine what they can unleash with a character like that.