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Posted by gamefreak9

@fisk0 said:

@gamefreak9 said:

@fisk0 said:

@KillyDarko said:

@PsychoPenguin said:

I too am more excited about torchlight 2. 1/3rd the price, no constant connection to a server required, mod tools, etc.

This. I still wanna play Diablo 3, but I'm much more interested in Torchlight 2.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll grab a copy of Diablo 3 once it's in the $20-30 range, or less, but from the online DRM to the actual gameplay, there's very little that's appealing about this game compared to the previous releases. If they release a console version, as they were rumored to be working on, I might buy it sooner, as direct control is the preferable way to play this kind of games, and that they probably wouldn't get away with forced online authentication for the console releases.

Torchlight 2, while I haven't seen much of it, looks pretty promising.

Also, in the 3 hour part they cut from this video they mentioned that Divine Divinity was a great Diablo style game, I do own a copy of that which I haven't even played yet, seems like something I probably should play.

yes very little appealing indeed. lets judge a game before we play it huh? I'm in the TL2 beta and its pretty ridiculous to put it on the same ground as D3. Don't full of confirmation bias.

You're absolutely right about not judging the game before playing it and the past day's issues being a good source for confirmation bias regarding everything else about the game. I fully intend to give the game a try once it gets cheaper, and should probably have withheld making too opinionated comments on the game until I get to do that. That said, it doesn't look like they've focused on expanding on the things I liked about the previous games, while making a permanent connection to their servers a requirement despite my preferred way of playing the Diablo games so far have been alone.

servers are theoretically annoying but nowadays i'm always online on my PC anw. So practically for 99% of players it should make no difference. I think the mechanics actually make a lot of sense, sure its different and if we liked the older mechanics we should be wary of change but I think if you give it a fair chance it might come back and please you like never before.

Posted by Viking_Funeral

@AlisterCat said:

So they cut out the 3 hours before hand? Pfffft, that's the REAL content.

Awwwww, man. I was worried that they might do that. The taco conversation doesn't even make sense without it.

Posted by M1M1C

I hope that the TNT will be good, and actually work.

I am in agony watching this. Brads a smart guy so i'm not sure why he was having trouble figuring some of this stuff out, oh well.

Posted by coaxmetal

so is this game any good or what

Posted by DrDarkStryfe

Man, they left out all of the best parts.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

This is a really boring game, its like a HD remake of Diablo 2.

Posted by Anwar
Posted by HKZ

I really like the part where I thought my volume was way down or something wasn't working so I hit the volume up a bunch of times, and then Brad blew out my eardrums. Thanks Brad!

Posted by coaxmetal

@fisk0 said:

@KillyDarko said:

@PsychoPenguin said:

I too am more excited about torchlight 2. 1/3rd the price, no constant connection to a server required, mod tools, etc.

This. I still wanna play Diablo 3, but I'm much more interested in Torchlight 2.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll grab a copy of Diablo 3 once it's in the $20-30 range, or less, but from the online DRM to the actual gameplay, there's very little that's appealing about this game compared to the previous releases. If they release a console version, as they were rumored to be working on, I might buy it sooner, as direct control is the preferable way to play this kind of games, and that they probably wouldn't get away with forced online authentication for the console releases.

Torchlight 2, while I haven't seen much of it, looks pretty promising.

Also, in the 3 hour part they cut from this video they mentioned that Divine Divinity was a great Diablo style game, I do own a copy of that which I haven't even played yet, seems like something I probably should play.

I'd like to wait till its cheaper too, but I think we might have to wait a while... Diablo 2 (Battle chest) still retails for $30-$40.

Edited by l3illyl3ob

Diablo 3 is going to be $60 for years to come.

Anyone who is calling this game dumbed down really doesn't have any idea about the game's systems. First, I'd argue that Diablo 2 was absolutely not a deep game in any meaningful way. The skill trees were incredibly limiting and the introduction of synergies had the complete opposite effect that was intended, and railroaded to only a tiny handful of specific builds per class. There was also only really one or two different stat point builds that were viable for hell difficulty.

The amount of different playstyles and character builds supported and viable in D3 is staggering and far outweighs D2.

Posted by Slax

I hope they choose to post all of this...

Edited by cavemantom

@l3illyl3ob said:

Diablo 3 is going to be $60 for years to come.

Anyone who is calling this game dumbed down really doesn't have any idea about the game's systems. First, I'd argue that Diablo 2 was absolutely not a deep game in any meaningful way. The skill trees were incredibly limiting and the introduction of synergies had the complete opposite effect that was intended, and railroaded to only a tiny handful of specific builds per class.

The amount of different playstyles and character builds supported and viable in D3 is staggering and far outweighs D2.

I've been pretty astounded by the sheer variety and flexibility in the combat.

And I'm playing a Barbarian.

And I'm only level 8.

We'll see if I'm still this jazzed in a hundred hours but, so far, it plays fuckin' great.

Posted by Anwar

Why didn't they record the bombcast first and a podcast about Diablo 3 later?

Posted by eccentrix

Oh yeah, I remember Drew telling Vinny to split the archive. Hopefully the rest is coming up later.

Posted by Keithcrash

I still can't freaking play this stupid ass game. I really want to though :(

Posted by BigChief

You know what game doesn't make you wait in queues to play a single player game, or block you from playing single player if the servers are down? Or kick you off in the middle of playing single player causing you to lose progress?

Fucking Torchlight 2.

Edited by D_train_lives

so... can someone tell me why this game was so hyped? It looks like any other game of its genre. I mean I enjoyed torchlight but that game made me yawn in parts too. oh and online only singleplayer seems like the worst idea on earth.

Posted by sins_of_mosin

Cable went out today.   Totally random but really hammers home why I won't pay for this.

Posted by gakushya

diablo 3 endurance run!

Posted by coaxmetal

does torchlight 2 have a date yet? other than "this summer"

I thought I heard August somewhere but I might be getting that confused with Dark Souls pc, which I know is august.

Posted by Tesla

If I watch this while I take a break from Diablo III to eat, am I really taking a break from Diablo III?

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Posted by D_train_lives

@gakushya: F! NO!

Posted by phampire

I think brad might review this, he seems pretty into it.

Posted by AuthenticM

@Recall said:

they cut the best stuff :(

Yes. I am disappointed to see they cut the Diablo 2 and Starcraft 2 stuff.

Posted by Darthozzan

@fisk0: You think less precise controls are only more useful in slower games.... What?

Posted by fisk0

@Darthozzan said:

@fisk0: You think less precise controls are only more useful in slower games.... What?

Not quite what I said, but the way you paraphrased it it makes even more sense. Of course less precise controls cause less of an issue if you can take your time when struggling with them.

Posted by umdesch4

The intricate terms of the taco purchasing bet were cut, so I assume anyone watching this who didn't watch the stuff before it has no idea what they're talking about with that.

Although, I'd have to say that the most informative parts of this were seeing just how much progress you lose every time there's a server hiccup. I'm completely sold on NOT buying this game now.

Posted by goatmilk

This is all Brad is going to be talking about, like all year. I predict it'll win GOTY in the same way Skyrim did last year. It's a great game but severely overrated.

Posted by Sweetz

@Riboflavin said:

I'd like to wait till its cheaper too, but I think we might have to wait a while... Diablo 2 (Battle chest) still retails for $30-$40.

Yeah seriously, screw Blizzard's pricing. They still sell Starcraft, a 14 year old game that can only run at 640x480, for $15. Other respected PC gaming companies with their kind of success would be giving a game that old away for free as a thank you to fans at this point (such as with Bethesda and their older games).

Posted by madmurdock0311

The show with Hulk on the speedboat is "Tropical Thunder".

The asterisk represents new dialog available with the NPC.

Posted by fisk0

@Sweetz said:

@Riboflavin said:

I'd like to wait till its cheaper too, but I think we might have to wait a while... Diablo 2 (Battle chest) still retails for $30-$40.

Yeah seriously, screw Blizzard's pricing. They still sell Starcraft, a 14 year old game that can only run at 640x480, for $15. Other respected PC gaming companies with their kind of success would be giving a game that old away for free as a thank you to fans at this point (such as with Bethesda and their older games).

While it's silly that StarCraft and Diablo 2 are still $15, they've been at that price point since around 2 years after release - so while they should've dropped in price more since then, it didn't take too long until they reached their current price point (which WOW is also at, and SC2 is closing in on). I think Diablo 3 is probably available at around $30 by the end of the year.

Posted by Milkman

Is the rest of the video going up?

Posted by Hef

Stop telling Brad to not pick up white loot drew! Crafting items and upgrading the blacksmith costs a shit ton, and selling everything you find is a VERY important way to get money. Also you have unlimited town portal, so why wouldn't you do it. Also everything only takes up two spaces and you have a way bigger inventory than D2, so you're not going back to town every 30 seconds.

Posted by Metric_Outlaw

Man this game looks boring.

Posted by Wandering_Idiot

Dear god, the camera movement on that instant teleport move is hideously jarring. I'm amazed that got through testing.

Posted by Eurobum

@Skyfire543 said:

Why am I totally not interested in this game? I know I should be. I loved Diablo 2.

Same here, I can think of a dozen reasons, though I'm wondering if we actually get reviews that echo that sentiment.

Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher .......................................Diablo 3 (end of scale)

Posted by bunji

If you're worrying if the game's worth it, since many people complain about it being dumbed down, the Act 2 boss fight will tell you exactly why Diablo III is a thousand times more awesome. The feeling af badassery is unmatched in the genre here.

About no pots: There are no mana pots, so your play style will in fact be more thought requiring, since you can't just spam your best ability and then pots to keep mana up. You actually have to think about spending your combat ressource. Also, classes can wear a lot more type of gear this time, so stats have been funelled into gear a lot more, rather than you assigning them.

If you're looking for the oppotunity to mop the floor with thousands of demon minions, while tonnes of magic effects fly in all sorts of colorful directions, play this game.

Posted by Rmack

I still can't decide between Barbarian and Monk :(. Monk is fun but Barbarian looks like he gets so much better loot.

Posted by Badfinger

DREW HULK HOGAN WAS IN DAYS OF THUNDER.

Now you know.

Posted by mewarmo990
  • Finals/Graduation
  • Diablo 3

I have to pick one. T_T

Posted by vikingdeath1

@scalpel: You said it

Edited by Pssartist

Hardcore characters are dropping like flies because of lag or being disconnected from the servers.

Always online DRM stinky bullshit won`t hurt legit players you say? Pahahaha...ha!

I won`t be buying D3 until Blizzard fixes all these teething problems.

Posted by radioactivez0r

I'm not sure if I'd play even if someone bought the game for me (my birthday is next week, after all)...I'd still feel dirty and somehow like I was supporting this BS. If I don't care about selling digital loot for actual money, and I'm not a cheater, why can't I play offline again?

Posted by bunji

Is it just me, or is it disappointing to see a quicklook of Diablo III finally in retail, which just shows the exact same seciton of game, that we've been playing in the beta for more then 6 months now?

Edited by spazmaster666

This is exactly why I'm not buying this game day 1: I don't trust the servers to be stable at all times, especially at the onset. I'm still not convinced about Blizzard basically turning a single player game into an instanced MMO, but I'll probably buy it when it comes down in price. I do agree that I'm more interested in Torchlight 2 at this point than Diablo III.

Posted by ScreamingFist

I did check the formula and I can confirm that More Tacos = Greater Success

Posted by Vorbis

@Hef: Drew was just trying to get Brad through the dungeon so people could see some non-beta content, but he was insistent on breaking every barrel, which is a shame because the Skeleton King was 5 minutes away.

Posted by dr_mantas

They didn't archive the Diablo 2 stuff? Shame...

Posted by HighPriest

@bunji said:

Is it just me, or is it disappointing to see a quicklook of Diablo III finally in retail, which just shows the exact same seciton of game, that we've been playing in the beta for more then 6 months now?

It is disappointing, but the GB plan was probably to blow through the beta stuff and get to original material. This is like 3 hours into their live stream, most of which was alternating between a login screen of Diablo 3 and Brad playing Diablo 2.

Posted by Solh0und

Somehow, I want to play Neverwinter Nights after seeing this.

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