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Posted by Oginam

The more I watch these, the more i want to play the game myself...
 
And the more I want to play the game myself, the more I question my sanity.

Posted by Shinri
@YellowKing said:
"CONGRATULATIONS, RANT TO FOLLOW!
 
Completionist Brad, co-pilot Ryan, you just successfully locked yourself out of two sidequests.  Specifically, #1 and thus its followup, #29.  Furthermore, #28 needed to be completed in advance of #1 to unlock it.  Perhaps if you had paid any goddamn attention to the people you suggested to meet after the town hall meeting or the "Chapters Available" portion of the Sidequest menu, you wouldn't be in this situation.  Since you both failed to notice it, I'll say it, sidequests can only be both accepted and completed in certain chapters and that that menu effing warned you in advance.

Also, congratulations on completely failing to understand the "notepad-shaped" sidequest icon with the corresponding number next to it that can tell you from the map when someone has a sidequest available.   That little icon next to their names, that's what that is.

If you guys want to go back in time and complete #28, #1 and unlock #29, you can select a chapter from the main menu, however you have to complete the chapter in one go without saving.  I would pick one of those "drive from A to B ones" if you have the option.  It will autosave at the end and any unique progress you make (sidequests,  bones, cards, quest items, etc.) will carry over into your main save.  Because of this annoyance and several others, you should not use this system except when absolutely necessary.  In addition, I've heard that using the system in a certain later chapter can cause a game-breaking bug as it causes a quest item to disappear.  You should be in the clear for now, but be aware, I'm not sure what chapter it is. "

+1 to everything. Well said.
Posted by lordofultima
@YellowKing: Yes, because them doing everything right makes for an exciting quicklook? Oh wait. No.
Posted by Gravatix
@mutha3:  Eh, in regards to them being more entertaining I can understand what you're saying.  Making it a tighter experience etc etc.  But, they obviously aren't editing, so things are just going real time.  There were boring parts in Persona 4.  But this isn't Persona 4 and I don't think the entire staff really just had to play this game at work or they weren't going to get a chance to.  I doubt any of them would have continued after playing this for a few hours.   So, no.. I really don't think they give a shit.  They're just doing this to be funny.  You can hear it in their voices... sometimes they really really really want to just put it down, at least for a while.  All four of them have sounded that way at one point or another.  So, wailing at them to play better and get the simple game mechanics down that the game doesn't explain very well is probably a waste of time.
Posted by JoelTheB

Going back to watch the Persona 4 ER (I signed up here because of the Deadly Premonition ER), it's refreshing to see Vinny and Jeff listening to comments and actually taking advice.  I think a lot of the frustration folks are feeling is the lack of that being shown in these ERs, especially in the BR ones.  I think the equivalent would be if VJ had spent 10-20 episodes fighting Shadow Yukiko over and over again, dying, and saying, "Wow, this game really sucks."
 
There's a difference between nitpicking for not playing the game exactly right, and offering advice that will severely reduce the number of episodes spent complaining about grinding through zombie after zombie.  There are a ton of sidequests in this game that are utterly pointless, and I wouldn't mind seeing them skip them at all.  The sidequests we're bringing up, though, will save both players and watchers from having to suffer through episode after episode of endless driving, and slowly taking zombies out with the pistol, one-by-one, through 5-6 more dungeons.

Posted by Carlos1408

Hilarious episode guys! Keep at it! :D

Edited by regmcfly

Complaining about people playing games for YOUR entertainment is laughable. STARCRAFT FIXING LAUGHABLE  #culturallyrelevant.

Edited by Ennead

BRAD AND RYAN YOU ARE PLAYING THIS GAME IN A SUBOPTIMAL WAY AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS. LET ME CREATE AN ELABORATE LIST OF EVERYTHING YOU DID DIFFERENTLY.

Posted by FireSketch

No suit and a cliffhanger?!
 
Aaaww...

Posted by FLStyle

Shit just got real. Looking forward to what the next two days has in store, keep going Team BR, doing great.

Edited by ChristianKohne

how many gigs is this game..it would be a perfect psn/xbl game...

Posted by ch3burashka

I didn't realize they recorded these a couple of days ahead...

Posted by LordAndrew
@Milkman said:
" @mutha3:  You know, you could always stop watching? I think that would be best for everyone involved because you don't have to get SOOO ANGRY AT VIDGAMES and we don't have to read your retarded ramblings. "
This coming from a guy who watches the Question of the Week responses just to complain about them.
Edited by mutha3
@LordAndrew said:

@Milkman said:

  @mutha3:  You know, you could always stop watching? I think that would be best for everyone involved because you don't have to get SOOO ANGRY AT VIDGAMES and we don't have to read your retarded ramblings. "

This coming from a guy who watches the Question of the Week responses just to complain about them. "
 
And has never, not once, missed an opportunity to yell at people who disagree with the staff. 
 
''I didn't like this week's podcast muc-''
 
''OMG FUCKIN HATERS STOP WATCHING LEAVE GIANTBOMB ALONE''
Edited by iAmJohn
@lordofultima said:

" @YellowKing: Yes, because them doing everything right makes for an exciting quicklook? Oh wait. No. "

The difference is this:
  1. They been bitching about the combat and how much they hate it and spent all of Monday's video suggesting that they go to Becky's house and do all these things that suggested that they were looking forward to the part where the game actually opens up... only for them to explore for less than an in-game hour, do absolutely nothing, and skip time to get to the next story event which, in case you were unaware, is going to lead to another combat part and I'm sure they won't spend this one complaining about how much they hate the combat that they still haven't taken the time to really figure out!!
  2. Many of these sidequests - aside from filling in the story and the history of the town and its residents - will better equip them and make it so they have less of a problem with the combat and driving and all these things that are supposedly so terrible.  These things aren't hard to find; I've found all the crazy items except for the radio just by exploring and doing the given side missions, and they've made the game far easier and quicker.
 
The way they're playing the game is simply bafflingly counter-intuitive, and I'm sure that they're going to say it's the game's fault that they completely squandered their opportunity to explore (and get to know the layout of the town so that maybe they won't have to check the damn map every minute) and are making things harder for themselves.
Posted by mutha3
@iAmJohn said:

I've found all the crazy items except for the radio just by exploring and doing the given side missions, and they've made the game far easier and quicker.


OH MAN.  That's like the best item in the game:( I got at the end of chapter 1 and my arms flew in the air when I found out what it did.
 
They shoulda made that one the most easily accessible.
Posted by supercubedude

All of you people who think the Endurance run is serious business are missing the fucking point.

Posted by Curufinwe

I'm only really watching VJ, but it's sad to see in the comments that BR are doing their very best to make the game harder, less fun to play, and less fun to watch.

Edited by mutha3
@supercubedude said:

" All of you people who think the Endurance run is serious business are missing the fucking point. "

There is no 'point' the original was because Jeff and Vinny wanted to play P4 but didn't have the time to do it home.
 
This one exists because the community asked for it.
 
@Curufinwe said:
" I'm only really watching VJ, but it's sad to see in the comments that BR are doing their very best to make the game harder, less fun to play, and less fun to watch. "

WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT? DO YOU WANT A 100% PERFECT SPEEDRUN OR SOMETHING?!!!?? ! YOU DON'T HAVE THE HEART OF THE ER
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@mutha3: Don't be so naive, sure that's what they say on the podcast and it was a convient excuse to do it but there's no way they would have kept putting those videos up if it wasn't the entertainment success it was.
 
So yeah there was a point, it was to entertain the community by playing a funny/quirky game to its completion.
Posted by rjayb89

Man, who would have thought there would be people telling Brad and Ryan what to do in this game.

Posted by gunslingerNZ
@Shinri: What a douchebag. Most people watching this don't give a crap if they complete every sidequest and 100% the game.
 
I really fucking hate reading comments on the endurance run from people who are playing/have played the game. It was the same for Persona though in that case it was kinda funny watching people bitch about their shitty fusing skills. For this game it's just lame and annoying
Edited by mutha3
@gunslingerNZ said:

" @mutha3: Don't be so naive, sure that's what they say on the podcast and it was a convient excuse to do it 

Um. I think you need to cut back on the conspiracy theorizing, dude.
 
 They've stated plenty of times that if they really didn't want to do it: they would just quit. They've always been up front about things like advertisement and review scores(its what Jeff got presumebly fired for) I think its pretty silly to suspect them of doing such a thing when they really didn't expect the ER to be the hit it is now at all. No one  expected Persona to turn into what it is now.
 
 They said this many times but: They needed daily video content, and they wanted to play P4.
 


 but there's no way they would have kept putting those videos up if it wasn't the entertainment success it was.  So yeah there was a point, it was to entertain the community by playing a funny/quirky game to its completion. "

  
Well, obviously. but that doesn't change the original intent or as some people like to call it 'spirit'. The ER was started as an attempt to play through P4 and it happened to turn into the most popular feature on the site.
 
If it would have fizzled out and nobody would watch them, they would naturally stop doing those vids.This one(like I just said) was put up because people wanted it. There is no ''rule set'' or special motivation involved here.
Posted by Deathmachine117

If you dont like what Brad and Ryan are doing in the ER then go out and buy the game yourself its as simple as that. As they said there playing the game so you dont have to.

Posted by gunslingerNZ
@mutha3: What the hell are you talking about?
 
"They said this many times but: They needed daily video content, and they wanted to play P4. "
 
This is exactly my point... Why did you bother typing all that other trash. They weren't playing Person 4 just because they couldn't play it at home and work was a convenient place to play it. They were doing it because it was a good way to have regular, entertaining content for the site.
 
So yes the point of the endurance run was to be entertaining for the users. So the guy who you criticised for saying this:
 " All of you people who think the Endurance run is serious business are missing the fucking point. " 
 Was 100% correct.
Posted by iAmJohn
@gunslingerNZ said:
" So yes the point of the endurance run was to be entertaining for the users. So the guy who you criticised for saying this: " All of you people who think the Endurance run is serious business are missing the fucking point. "   Was 100% correct. "
And what if I told you that watching them endlessly complain about how much the game sucks as they did for the first couple episodes is not entertaining, and that we've been suggesting they do these things to make the game easier and more fun to watch because maybe then they will have less frustration with the parts they don't like or will be able to get through them quicker and better focus on making witty comments and joking about random things instead of endlessly whining like Brad did all throughout the first week?
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@iAmJohn: Then I would suggest you shut your trap and let them discover those things for themselves like you did the first time you played this game (I'm assuming you did for some godforsaken reason). I find any "whining" they may have done in the in initial episodes far less annoying than the whining you pricks are doing on here and a lot more justified.
Edited by mutha3
@gunslingerNZ said:
 


"They said this many times but: They needed daily video content, and they wanted to play P4. "
 
This is exactly my point... Why did you bother typing all that other trash. They weren't playing Person 4 just because they couldn't play it at home and work was a convenient place to play it. They were doing it because it was a good way to have regular, entertaining content for the site.
 

 Well, you seem to have reading comprehension issues so I decided to go a bit in depth. Let me try and break this down and simplify this for you:
 
-They had been throwing around the idea for daily content
-They wanted to play P4
-They had no prior idea if it would be a hit with their audience or not
-They decided to do  it anyways because they wanted to play the game
 
This is what they claimed and I'm sorry but, its hard to take your conspiracy nonsense seriously when the staff members have always been upfront about these sorts of things.
 
It also doesn't help your case that they had no possible idea this would catch on at all.
 

So yes the point of the endurance run was to be entertaining for the users. So the guy who you criticised for saying this: " All of you people who think the Endurance run is serious business are missing the fucking point. "   Was 100% correct. "

 
We complainers,as the users, would like Brad and Ryan to stop blowing at this game. And seeing how this Endurance Run was started because of us, the users, its not a good idea to make less entertaining video content because of some vague bullshit ''ER spirit'' so many users like to throw around. 
 
I can't really speak for what his intention was with that post, but that's what I interpreted it as. A lot of users do that same shit in response to every criticism people make. And seeing how people who criticize this want better video: its not much of a stretch to assume that's what he's implying.

 ''Hey guy, maybe you should use the smo-''
 
''SRS BZNISS THE ER SPIRIT IS TO COMPLETLY SUCK AT A GAME AND TAKE 20 HOURS LONGER  TO COMPLETE THEN NORMAL PEOPLE''
 
@gunslingerNZ said:

" @iAmJohn: Then I would suggest you shut your trap and let them discover those things for themselves like you did the first time you played this game (I'm assuming you did for some godforsaken reason). I find any "whining" they may have done in the in initial episodes far less annoying than the whining you pricks are doing on here and a lot more justified. "

why am i not suprised.
Posted by iAmJohn
@gunslingerNZ: Whatever, asshole.
Posted by LordAndrew
@gunslingerNZ: User feedback was of great importance to the Persona 4 Endurance Run. Vinny and Jeff would have had a lot more trouble without our help.
Edited by mutha3
@LordAndrew said:

" @gunslingerNZ: User feedback was of great importance to the Persona 4 Endurance Run. Vinny and Jeff would have had a lot more trouble without our help. "

 
I'm convinced they wouldn't have even made it through the game.
 
Seeing how they conveniently ALWAYS did the exact same thing commentators told them to and relied heavily on tips and fusion combination's from the audience.
Posted by supercubedude

CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!?

Posted by mutha3
@supercubedude: 
 
N-No mom!  Don't leave us
 
Think of Sarah and Billy:(
Edited by Crushed

Jesus, some people are getting way too riled up.
 
I can get annoyed some by these, but only because it's frustrating to see someone doing something wrong. I haven't even played the game or anything, it's stuff like forgetting what happened the last time you played, or basic gameplay mechanics, or walking past and missing things that are plainly visible, or not paying attention when the game is telling you something important. When I'm watching and seeing them wasting time on that stuff, it makes me frustrated because it's time that could be spent doing something more entertaining, rather than bumbling in a corner. I don't have to leave or stop watching, the jokes are still funny. It's just constructive criticism. 


Oh, and it also makes some jokes fall flat. Joking about a game's faults can be funny, but when you know the game actually addresses it then it's not as funny anymore. :P

Posted by mutha3
@Crushed said:
" Jesus, some people are getting way too riled up.  I can get annoyed some by these, but only because it's frustrating to see someone doing something wrong. I haven't even played the game or anything, it's stuff like forgetting what happened the last time you played, or basic gameplay mechanics, or walking past and missing things that are plainly visible, or not paying attention when the game is telling you something important. When I'm watching and seeing them wasting time on that stuff, it makes me frustrated because it's time that could be spent doing something more entertaining, rather than bumbling in a corner. I don't have to leave or stop watching, the jokes are still funny. It's just constructive criticism.  Oh, and it also makes some jokes fall flat. Joking about a game's faults can be funny, but when you know the game actually addresses it then it's not as funny anymore. :P "
 
 This x1000

I   think I've posted way too much in this comment section today, but I'll just leave this as my last post:
 
The above here is basically why 99% of the people ''whine''. It just frustrating to watch a video which consists of 90%  guys looking at map.
Edited by Milkman
@mutha3 said:

 And has never, not once, missed an opportunity to yell at people who disagree with the staff.   ''I didn't like this week's podcast muc-''  ''OMG FUCKIN HATERS STOP WATCHING LEAVE GIANTBOMB ALONE'' "

 
 
 
Is that an exact quote?
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@mutha3: *facepalm* Dude what the heck is going on in your head. You seem to be running yourself around in circles and I don't think you're reading what I've posted so I give up... '
 
What is this 'conspiracy' you think I've created? My point is they make these videos to entertain people and the majority of people are being entertained by them. Your just part of the vocal minority that likes to bitch about them and gets on everyone else's nerves because of it.
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@iAmJohn said:
" @gunslingerNZ: Whatever, asshole. "
What an insightful and considered reply, Bravo!
Posted by Earthborn
@gunslingerNZ said:
"... Most people watching this don't give a crap if they complete every sidequest and 100% the game.  I really fucking hate reading comments on the endurance run from people who are playing/have played the game. It was the same for Persona though in that case it was kinda funny watching people bitch about their shitty fusing skills. For this game it's just lame and annoying "

This.  
 
It's entertainment, folks. If it ain't entertainin' change the channel.
Posted by mutha3
*sigh* I know I should stop responding to idiots but here we go!
 
@gunslingerNZ said:
" @mutha3: *facepalm* Dude what the heck is going on in your head. You seem to be running yourself around in circles and I don't think you're reading what I've posted so I give up... '  What is this 'conspiracy' you think I've created? My point is they make these videos to entertain people and the majority of people are being entertained by them.
Well, you seem to imply that the staff is somehow lying by calling me naive when I stated that they're reason for starting P4 was them wanting to play it. Which is what they said pretty clearly.
 
I don't believe I have ever denied the bolded. As you can see in my previous post:  I(maybe?) misunderstood the guy who was making that original comment. I thought he was  with the  ancient 'THE ENDURANCE RUN SPIRIT MEANS  NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE TUTORIALS AND PLAYING THINGS 20 HOURS LONGER THAN YOU SHOULD'' crowd. 
 
My point is that there is no dumb arbitrary rule the staff is following. They can do whatever they want....and among those things is making(more) entertaining video content by not spending 20 minutes looking at a map.
 
@Milkman said:
" @mutha3 said:

 And has never, not once, missed an opportunity to yell at people who disagree with the staff.   ''I didn't like this week's podcast muc-''  ''OMG FUCKIN HATERS STOP WATCHING LEAVE GIANTBOMB ALONE'' "

   Is that an exact quote? "

Eh. Its close enough to 90% of the shit you post.
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@mutha3 said:
" *sigh* I know I should stop responding to idiots but here we go!

My point is that there is no dumb arbitrary rule the staff is following. They can do whatever they want....and among those things is making(more) entertaining video content by not spending 20 minutes looking at a map.

Well I mean being an idiot and all this might not be my place but...
 
I would suggest you take some of your 'sage' advice here. Ryan and Brad can indeed do whatever they want when they play DP and should be able to do so without being subject to pages and pages of abuse and criticism from people like yourself. 
 
If they want to play the game by constantly referring to the map, ignoring some of the side quests and spending many many hours under the belief they were being attacked by a horde of bees THEN SO BE IT! The market can decide whether or not that makes for an entertaining watch and most of us believe it does. If it annoys you guys so much then just stop watching, it's simple really any 'idiot' could understand it :)
Posted by mutha3
@gunslingerNZ: 
 
 


I would suggest you take some of your 'sage' advice here. Ryan and Brad can indeed do whatever they want when they play DP and should be able to do so without being subject to pages and pages of abuse and criticism from people like yourself. 
 

 ''abuse'? what? when did I ever in these pages insult the staff?
 
I guess figuratively saying commentators are obsessed with them by saying they fellate them....?

 My intention isn't to insult the staff at all. Rather, I just want them to improve their mistakes and make a better viewing experience for us all. Looking at past experiences, they appreciate feedback and have always tried to make improvements. Besides, they're putting these videos out in the public for anyone to watch, if you do that any criticism is fair game.
 
I say people who jump at the throats  of anyone making the slightest dissenting comment hurt discussion faaaar more.
 
 


If they want to play the game by constantly referring to the map, ignoring some of the side quests and spending many many hours under the belief they were being attacked by a horde of bees THEN SO BE IT! The market can decide whether or not that makes for an entertaining watch and most of us believe it does. If it annoys you guys so much then just stop watching, it's simple really any 'idiot' could understand it :)  

 The market should also be able to  voice their displeasure without being jumped at by rabid fanboys. If they just fix a few small things like team VJ did......it would be perfect.
 
Besides, I actually feel team BR is much,much better then they were at the beginning. I'm mostly responding to posts now because people who can't handle dissenting opinions really tick me off.
 
With that I salute all readers of the comment section 
 
*bow*
Posted by Besetment

What's up with the broken quoting?

Posted by gunslingerNZ
@mutha3: I think that was more of a tumble off the stage than a bow and a graceful exit buddy.
 
If you think I'm a fanboy of these guys then you are sorely mistaken, in fact I get really annoyed at the people on this site who will agree with whatever the GB guys tell them.
Posted by RagingLion

Keep going Bryan!  We're only at the start of the open-world bit, so I'm sure you'll work out the best way of doing things in the DP world soon enough.  I'm progressing in my understanding of it as you are.

Posted by DougJustice

Im getting pretty sick of people hating on this game. It was pretty low-budget, and i think it's quirky as hell and quite endearing. So suck it up. The game isn't gonna magically look or play any better. Learn to love it's weird lovableness. 

Posted by bigsmoke77

I think all the hate is warranted, they are both being fucking idiots when it comes to this game. They haven't learned anything about the game  and or how it works the whole time they have been playing.

Posted by LtColJaxson
@gunslingerNZ said:
" @mutha3: I think that was more of a tumble off the stage than a bow and a graceful exit buddy.  If you think I'm a fanboy of these guys then you are sorely mistaken, in fact I get really annoyed at the people on this site who will agree with whatever the GB guys tell them. "
Maybe the reason many agree with them is because their opinions are very agreeable? I don't take everything into account, but much of what they say is nice and honest.
Posted by JoelTGM

Sheesh, how many cigs has York smoked in total I wonder.

Posted by armaan8014
@supercubedude said:
" CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!? "
@supercubedude said:
" CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!? "
@supercubedude said:
" CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!? "
@supercubedude said:
" CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!? "
@supercubedude said:
" CAN'T YOU SEE THIS ENDURANCE RUN IS TEARING US APART!? "
 
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