Final Fantasy VII Is Coming (Back) to the PC

I still have the PS1 game to play on my PS3. Unless they uprez the graphics there is little point.

@Gordo789 said:

@Nottle said:

Maybe if they did something like Okami or El Shaddai that would be cool. But even then I think I'd get tired of so much whimsy and feminine looking dudes wearing tiaras and rat tails reclining back midair in a middle eastern gothic city. But if there is no stylization too it, Nomura can put as many belts on someone as he wants and add another antler to Seymour's hair. I rather take that than every character having that skin tight armor Amano does.

Yeah, cause it's not like there are any feminine looking dudes in Final Fantasy since Amano stopped doing the character designs...

Vaan is the very image of manliness.

@Nottle said:

Maybe if they did something like Okami or El Shaddai that would be cool. But even then I think I'd get tired of so much whimsy and feminine looking dudes wearing tiaras and rat tails reclining back midair in a middle eastern gothic city. But if there is no stylization too it, Nomura can put as many belts on someone as he wants and add another antler to Seymour's hair. I rather take that than every character having that skin tight armor Amano does.

Yeah, cause it's not like there are any feminine looking dudes in Final Fantasy since Amano stopped doing the character designs...

Boy that doesn't look dated at all...

I'm with Brad on this one.

Okay, I didn't actually watch this the first time I posted. Why does it say download it today if it's only coming soon? And also terrible trailer.

HIGH DEFINITION GOURAUD SHADING SON

@Nexas said:

No new translation no sale.

As you wish: "We shan't depart from this locomotive transport we currently occupy." /soracist

@ptys said:

I'm trying to figure out the significance of this article?.. No, don't get get it.

It's a trailer, not an article. :) The front page of the site doesn't make a distinction, but it's in the Videos -> Trailers category.

@believer258: I prefer 6 to 7 as well but thats really for the battle system, I'd say if people are gonna pick apart 7 the same could be done to 6. Honestly I don't really have a good grasp on some of 6's characters. Edgar, Sabin, Shadow, Setzer, Relm, Gau, and Cyan I can remember what they were all about. But for some reason I can't remember what the deal was with what are debatably the 3 main characters Terra, Locke, and Celes. I could tell you nothing about there personalities or story other than Lockes a thief, Terra's esper/slave, and Celes was a soldier and she attempts to kill herself if Cid dies. Also what was Kefka's reasoning for doing anything he did?

@Gordo789 said:

@Nottle said:

If they continued to use the Amano style everyone would be bone white, somber, and wispy with even more beads, belts, and strands going everywhere. Have you ever seen art of his where a character looked pretty stoked? No? Because they don't exist. Smirking Porum doesn't count.

And that would be pretty goddamned AWESOME.

Maybe if they did something like Okami or El Shaddai that would be cool. But even then I think I'd get tired of so much whimsy and feminine looking dudes wearing tiaras and rat tails reclining back midair in a middle eastern gothic city. But if there is no stylization too it, Nomura can put as many belts on someone as he wants and add another antler to Seymour's hair. I rather take that than every character having that skin tight armor Amano does.

Whats up with the speed ups?

The trailer tells me to download it today, then tells me it's coming soon. What's going on here?!

@Nottle said:

If they continued to use the Amano style everyone would be bone white, somber, and wispy with even more beads, belts, and strands going everywhere. Have you ever seen art of his where a character looked pretty stoked? No? Because they don't exist. Smirking Porum doesn't count.

And that would be pretty goddamned AWESOME.

Does not hold up. One of the worst games in the series in terms of story, combat, and world. People will play it again and be wondering what the big deal was.

@Nottle said:

If they continued to use the Amano style everyone would be bone white, somber, and wispy with even more beads, belts, and strands going everywhere. Have you ever seen art of his where a character looked pretty stoked? No? Because they don't exist. Smirking Porum doesn't count.

And that would be pretty goddamned AWESOME.

@maruko said:

Why now? Why only PC ??

I hope there'll be an iPhone version of this.

My theory is it's mostly about them establishing their digital store front. Publishers are starting to get the clue that the future of game delivery will be all digital - and so they're scrambling to setup their own digital sales infrastructure because they don't want to continue to giving a healthy chunk of their profits to Valve.

Square doesn't have some big new PC game to get their foot in the door with people like EA did with Origin and BF3 or TOR. Next best thing is to re-release one of their most popular games of all time in space where it's been very difficult to both get a hold of and run.

I have to think that a lot of people aren't going to be making SquareEnix store accounts for this.

Love the game but this seems pointless. I wonder if square is going to try and throw a $39+ price tag on it.

I had the PC version when it first came out and ended up shelving it and just emulated the PS1 version. There was some weird stuff with the music and some of the (shitty) translation was changed for what seemed like odd reasons. Hopefully this version will have a translation that makes sense and not just be a repackaging of the original PC version.

I'm more wondering the purpose of re-releasing this on PC a second time. Some sort of collection would be something that would interest me more, and I love FF7.

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's popular and many people put it on a pedestal above the other entries in the series, when in all reality it doesn't much deserve it.

So, yeah. It's popular to the point of being overrated, so a certain group of people are bound to hate it and claim that FF6 is better. I wouldn't be surprised if FF6 eventually got the same reputation and the same problem of having a large number of haters.

I do, by the way, think that FF6 is better but I hardly hate 7. I like 7. I just don't think it's as good as 6, but *eh* opinions.

Anyway, as far as this video goes, I'd guess that this was vintage '90's if I didn't know any better. They did a really good job of highlighting the pointlessness of it all because, hey, if you've got a computer that can run this then you've probably got one that can run a PS1 emulator. Or maybe you could go and buy the PS1 version off of PSN and play it on a PS3 or a (now very cheap) PSP.

lmao

@leem101 said:

I smell an Endurance run......

Probably not.

@defaulttag said:

copy pasted from official site

Minimum System Requirements:

Microsoft Windows XP/Vista/7 (32/64-bit) • 2GHz Processor or faster • 1GB RAM •

DirectX 9-compatible graphic card

From these requirements, I would assume that the 2D pre-rendered backgrounds would (and should) be up-res-ed (hopefully not just upscaled and stretched) requiring more graphical power/memory than the PS1. The CGI cutscenes would be done in full detailed 1080P (think blu-ray release of an old film) 16:9 instead of letterbox. The gameplay graphics would not be changed, though rendered at a higher resolution, the blocky characters will look the same with the same low polygon count, just crisper/smoother because it's rendered at a higher resolution. No new textures for the actual in-game graphics. Just better filtering (AF and AA in PC setting terms). It should be a decent re-release of the same exact game. No real remake yet though. If you have emulated this on PC at a higher resolution, this official re-release will probably have similar results.

So in terms of graphics, not really much of a difference if people just emulated it.

I don't think there's going to be much added without them just saying screw it, we're going to fully remake FF7 from the ground up.

No graphical updates whatsoever? Fuck this. No steam? Cleveland-steam this.

copy pasted from official site

Minimum System Requirements:

Microsoft Windows XP/Vista/7 (32/64-bit) • 2GHz Processor or faster • 1GB RAM •

DirectX 9-compatible graphic card

From these requirements, I would assume that the 2D pre-rendered backgrounds would (and should) be up-res-ed (hopefully not just upscaled and stretched) requiring more graphical power/memory than the PS1. The CGI cutscenes would be done in full detailed 1080P (think blu-ray release of an old film) 16:9 instead of letterbox. The gameplay graphics would not be changed, though rendered at a higher resolution, the blocky characters will look the same with the same low polygon count, just crisper/smoother because it's rendered at a higher resolution. No new textures for the actual in-game graphics. Just better filtering (AF and AA in PC setting terms). It should be a decent re-release of the same exact game. No real remake yet though. If you have emulated this on PC at a higher resolution, this official re-release will probably have similar results.

I smell an Endurance run......

I wonder if they are doing anything to the actual game...

@ProfessorEss said:

@andriv said:

this would make a great jeff and brad QL

Yor spelled ER wrong.

I think you're on to something.

Will it still have cross-dressing and the Honey Bee Inn?

Will it use the superior XG sound card music included on the original PC version?

@liako21: Easily the best for me. I just love that world. Lindblum is the greatest.

No new translation no sale.

I'm trying to figure out the significance of this article?.. No, don't get get it.

The original PC release used straight up MIDI files for music, which sounded somewhere between terrible and almost OK depending on your sound card (at the time I had a wavetable-based card so it wasn't too terrible, but if all you had was some crappy SoundBlaster the FM synth sounds were really bad). I wonder if they'll change that, but as this seems like a really cynical cash-in I kind of doubt it.

Come on Square, take one for the masses, and release this on Steam! No one is going to care about your achievements for this game otherwise.

@McGhee said:

@Hef said:

@fatalbanana said:

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Your not wrong but mainly the hatred for this particular entry into the series was because of the influence this game had over most of the FF's (and other RPG's) that came after it... art style, characters etc. that some people just aren't into. So basically its blamed for taking the series into a certain direction that apparently makes it easy to hate.

I for one am a huge fan of this game, though im puzzled as to why now and why on the PC, I will probably get it and most likely be into it.

I just found it doesn't age well at all. When it was all about the pretty graphics, I didn't mind waiting around for the bar to fill. But I think it's quasi-turn based combat is really boring. They made the new final fantasy's a faster pace by adding the class switching, but when you're just queueing up attacks the whole time it's pretty shitty.

The graphics definitely haven't aged well. No doubt about that. But I just replayed FF8 not too long ago (my favorite in the series) and it holds up quite well.

I'm going to respond to everyone at once:

But of course the art style and characters had to change. You couldn't get away with 16 bit character sprites anymore, characters needed to be more than just the same face with different hair and clothes. I personally do not care much for the over accessorizing Nomura tends to deal with, but if you look at the pre- FF 10 Nomura art style characters are not that dumb looking.

If they continued to use the Amano style everyone would be bone white, somber, and wispy with even more beads, belts, and strands going everywhere. Have you ever seen art of his where a character looked pretty stoked? No? Because they don't exist. Smirking Porum doesn't count.

Also I don't really know if FF7 did change the series as much as people claim. All the games are pretty different. FF9 was a call back to the olden days. Aside from Squall being laconic, 8 seemed pretty different and bright compared to 7, there was a sense or realism in terms of the way most characters looked that you never saw before in that series. 10 is out of this world and strange, it seems to have more in common with nabuu in Star Wars episode 1 than FF7, In the same "Vayne" FF12 seems more like Star Wars than the steampunk setting of 7 and aside from Vann, none of the characters look too anime.

I kind of like the super blocky-ness to 7 but yeah, the graphics look pretty ridiculous now, It looks so silly but can you imagine a realistic character hopping around the golden saucer or even the world map? But pre-8 everything stylistically was inconsistent. At least Cid and Tifa would run up to people to attack rather than stepping forward waving a sword around thin air and somehow hurting and enemy. Also enemies actually animate in 7 unlike before when you had giant static and highly detailed sprites. Compare boss Golbez to guest party member Golbez or the walkers Biggs and Wedge drive in 6 to the soldier and walkers you actually fight.

The ATB thing is sort of dated, but that was around years before 7. With the exception of 3 and 5, up until that point no game in the series let you have the level of customization a character could have thanks to the materia system. I'll be honest I haven't played much of 8, but I know the draw system lets you learn spells and change stats like the materia system did. Its just so tedious to have to draw cure, then go to the menu to bind the spell to a stat. Really I could just always be at critical status and just limit break the game. I do plan on playing more of 8 so maybe those feelings will change.

Will this be compatible with those PC mods that replace the normal models with the high res ones from the final battle?

still my favorite rpg. has crazy value. the summons really felt powerful. (knights of the round anyone?) and the ultimates looked great. who didnt love omnislash? but i wont buy this again without an update to the graphics.

why dont they remake 9!?!?!?

What's 'Like never before' about it unless they overhall something?

HD remake for pc? yaaaaaay. oh wait.....

wait, they didn't explain why! what the fuck!?!?

edit: also I can't believe I was able to play and finish this for the first time 2 years ago, the graphics look so bad, I remember after playing it that all the games I played looked AMAZING!

BEYOND. IMAGINATION.

I never asked for this.

but these CDs still work on my PC.

this would make a great jeff and brad QL

@Gruff182 said:

Do any PC gamers actually want this?

Depends on the price I guess. I won't be picking it up unless they made some neat changes. I was playing a few months ago with ePSXe because I didn't want to hookup my PSX or PS2. Plus ePSXe allowed the resolution to scale nicely. Textures still looked the same of course, but the characters, enemies, and UI looked crisper than what a AV or S-Video cable would give me.

@JDW519 said:

I get not thinking it's the greatest thing ever, it's definitely not the best Final Fantasy, but why do people get so pissed off at this game?

It's popular.

I really, really hope they've fixed the awful translation and also the piss poor music they had for the old PC version at the very least.

I don't get it.

Do any PC gamers actually want this?

It would have been great if the ESRB content warning had included "Aeris Dies".

Couldnt do a good one could you square?