214 Comments
Posted by andriv

this would make a great jeff and brad QL

Posted by Phatmac

No thanks.

Posted by aceofspudz

I had the PC version of FFVIII back in the day. It was garbage on wheels.

Posted by LobsterMobster

15 years and the best they can do is anti-alias it a bit?

Posted by ildon

All the media for this re-release makes it feel really lazy. Like Square-Enix just paid some dude $50 to make it work on Windows 7.

Posted by Evercaptor

I like FF7. I think it's pretty cool. Cool enough to have it on my PC.

Posted by Depth

LOOK AT THEM GRAPHICS HOLY CRAP

Posted by lesserworm

I played the PC version on CD when it came out, and it did have a slightly better translation. They still had that "Attack while its tail is up" thing, but they fixed the more blatant errors like "This guy are sick" and the

"CLOUD: So that's how you fooled them

AERIS:So that's how you fooled them"

confusion. The music was terrible though. Like it sounded really tinny and less like actual instruments than the PSX version. Hopefully they fixed that. And maybe the higher system requirements means the load times will be faster and the backgrounds will look less pixelated.

Posted by Slaegar

This is from the website they have up. It looks like its just the old PC version. Still an improvement over the silly shaped characters from the old playstation game. I don't think I'll be buying final fantasy 7 again though, unless its pretty cheap.

Edited by Bistromath

I too had the Eidos published PC version back in the day.
It constantly crashed on the cut-scenes.
 
Also, emulation is awesome.

Posted by WJist

I take it they are not releasing this on Steam?

I would honestly prefer a re-package of this game with all the side-story stuff with FFVII on it (even if some of it is of questionable quality): Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, Crisis Core, and that Japanese mobile game where you played as a recruit for the Turks.

Posted by Silver-Streak

@Slaegar: That's a FMV cutscene. The Silly Shaped Characters(TM) will still be in it. I have the original PC release. It's identical. You can mod it so they use the combat models for regular play, but it doesn't match up right anyway.

Posted by RedRavN

This is pretty much a necessary thing considering the original version has never been remotely compatable with modern operating systems. If they ported other final fantasy games to PC I would surely buy them. It seems like 1-6 should be easy enough to port over if they wanted to, but the polygonal newer final fantasies would be much more difficult to port.

Posted by MikkaQ

There you go, there's your re-release, now shut the fuck up for the next 15 years pleaaaase!

Edited by Rio

Im on board, and for no real reason. I cant help but love vii. Also people should keep in mind that there is a pretty dedicated mod community out there for the original PC release of the game. Im not sure how that stuff will mesh with this new release but it could be interesting.

Posted by maruko

Why now? Why only PC ??

I hope there'll be an iPhone version of this.

Posted by charlie_victor_bravo

@MikkaQ said:

There you go, there's your re-release, now shut the fuck up for the next 15 years pleaaaase!

This. And I am person who likes FF7 and thinks it is best jrpg that I have played, but some things are best to left resting in the past.

Posted by Gildermershina

There's a bit of revisionism that goes on with Final Fantasy. FFVII was fine, and pretty groundbreaking at the time. I still remember it very fondly, with all its little quirks and all. I kind of get the nostalgia people have for it. But I think it's kind of the same thing as with music. Most people seem to like the first album they heard by a band best. Which fine, until they can't move past it any more.

And in the case of FFVII what we've gotten out of that is a super-dull CGI movie, and a bunch of inconsequential spin-off games. The world and the characters aren't really compelling enough to justify any more time spent on them. Vincent was cool when he was a weird vampire-mutant-thing with a mysterious past. And Cloud was always exceptionally uninteresting - they wrote the fact that he literally doesn't have a personality into the story. Aside from nostalgia, I don't think there is anything that necessarily makes FFVII's story or gameplay any better than VIII or IX, or VI for that matter.

So colour me sceptical. I think it holds up perfectly well as an early 3D PS1 RPG, and maybe with a bit of an up-res and a better translation this version will be totally fine and unremarkable?

Posted by Forum_User

@TehJedicake said:

Never got the mass appeal to this game, I think ti's far overrated. FF6 had way better character development.

Yeah, I think it was just a lot of people's first JRPG, and thus they have a lot of nostalgia for it. It was really the game that propelled the genre into the mainstream in the West, which is probably unfortunate. I remember seeing all of the FMV, which was not all that common at the time, and how cool that looked. Then I played the game...and after the game that at the time was called Final Fantasy III, what a disappointment it was.

Posted by NekuCTR

"Download the quintessential Final Fantasy today!"

Final slide - "Coming Soon"

Who wrote this shit!?!?

Posted by Nottle

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

Posted by BradBrains

@joshth said:

I've never played this before. Should I?

*waits for impending shit storm*

Posted by Blearious

What a lazy fucking cash in.

Posted by kerse

I love FF7, but this is already on PC, so this is kinda weird, would much rather have an HD pack of 7-9 come out for all platforms, but I guess this is nice for people who haven't played it before, they don't have to jump through hoops to get it to run anymore.

Edited by Dan_CiTi

Hopefully it is as cleaned up as possible, better UI, textures, translation, skipable summons maybe? let's hope. Great game though.

Posted by Lanechanger

If I get this, does that mean I'll be supporting them in bringing the other FF's to PC?

Posted by Dan_CiTi

Also Crisis Core should have been on XBLA/PSN.

Posted by McGhee

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Posted by McGhee

@Quipido said:

@Stimpack said:

Aside from cloud saves, achievements, and HD support, I'm not honestly sure what they're really doing with this. It's FFVII, and people have been waiting a long time. It would be nice if they would go all out with it.

"Cloud saves" ? Really?

tee hee

Posted by Bombzinski

Is this a joke? Tell me someone cut this together as a joke.

Posted by SpiralEye

You can tell the announcer really doesn't care what he's talking about.. The product could have easily been Preparation H..

Posted by Zleunamme

Overlly dramatic announcement for a port of a fourteen year old game. That reminds me that Eidos released the pc version of FFVII when it came out. Square Enix will gladly trade nostalgia for your money.

Posted by benu302000

when it said "Beloved by fans." I think I threw up in my mouth.

Posted by Mindkiller

The marketing for this is weird across the board. That entire trailer just seems so amateurish, especially considering it's for one of the most beloved games of all time. There's an faq blog on the SE site where the guy answering questions doesn't actually know half the answers to the stuff he's been asked, like what the music will be like or whether this will be a retranslation. Everything about it just seems so.. odd. Like they're not putting any effort into this release whatsoever. I wonder if the cutscenes will be the same fuzzy avis that where in the original PC release.

Posted by RainbowCarnage

Best game ever made, EVER!!

Posted by fatalbanana

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Your not wrong but mainly the hatred for this particular entry into the series was because of the influence this game had over most of the FF's (and other RPG's) that came after it... art style, characters etc. that some people just aren't into. So basically its blamed for taking the series into a certain direction that apparently makes it easy to hate.

I for one am a huge fan of this game, though im puzzled as to why now and why on the PC, I will probably get it and most likely be into it.

Posted by TheHT

Actually that looks just about exactly how I experienced it before.

Posted by SmilingPig

@EthanML said:

Hold up, I played this on PC years ago, it's been around forever. What am I missing? Based on this trailer it's the exact same game.

Ya! WTF

Edited by Hef

@fatalbanana said:

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Your not wrong but mainly the hatred for this particular entry into the series was because of the influence this game had over most of the FF's (and other RPG's) that came after it... art style, characters etc. that some people just aren't into. So basically its blamed for taking the series into a certain direction that apparently makes it easy to hate.

I for one am a huge fan of this game, though im puzzled as to why now and why on the PC, I will probably get it and most likely be into it.

I just found it doesn't age well at all. When it was all about the pretty graphics, I didn't mind waiting around for the bar to fill. But I think it's quasi-turn based combat is really boring. They made the new final fantasy's a faster pace by adding the class switching, but when you're just queueing up attacks the whole time it's pretty shitty.

Posted by Nottle

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Being all contrarian. Soon, no one will like the game anymore. I can see hatred coming from the aftermath of that game, but sometimes you need a game to shake things up.

The thing I hate about FF7 is all the sequels to it. It messed with some interesting characters. I played FF7 a few years ago and for some reason it was some time after after I saw the movie Advent Children, I didn't like the movie, Cloud just seemed too much like Squall in hindsight but in FF7 I think he has one of the more interesting arcs in the series, there is as much characterization in him as any "golden era" FF protagonist.

I think I (and many other people) need to play that game again sometime. I don't remember Cloud being so laconic until like a 3rd through the story.

Posted by McGhee

@Hef said:

@fatalbanana said:

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Your not wrong but mainly the hatred for this particular entry into the series was because of the influence this game had over most of the FF's (and other RPG's) that came after it... art style, characters etc. that some people just aren't into. So basically its blamed for taking the series into a certain direction that apparently makes it easy to hate.

I for one am a huge fan of this game, though im puzzled as to why now and why on the PC, I will probably get it and most likely be into it.

I just found it doesn't age well at all. When it was all about the pretty graphics, I didn't mind waiting around for the bar to fill. But I think it's quasi-turn based combat is really boring. They made the new final fantasy's a faster pace by adding the class switching, but when you're just queueing up attacks the whole time it's pretty shitty.

The graphics definitely haven't aged well. No doubt about that. But I just replayed FF8 not too long ago (my favorite in the series) and it holds up quite well.

Posted by Legend

Hell yeah FFVII.

Posted by Maitimo

Hasn't quite the same hooks any more, huh?

Posted by gakushya

@Stimpack said:

Aside from cloud saves, achievements, and HD support, I'm not honestly sure what they're really doing with this. It's FFVII, and people have been waiting a long time. It would be nice if they would go all out with it.

cloud saves.... hehe

Posted by RAMBO604

@fatalbanana said:

@McGhee said:

@Nottle said:

The hatred for this game really does puzzle me. Why is it so bad compared to any other game in this series? No one has given me a satisfactory answer other than it being over rated which is fair, but anyone could say the same for any other entry in the series.

It's not bad compared to any game in the series. People just love to hate what is loved.

Your not wrong but mainly the hatred for this particular entry into the series was because of the influence this game had over most of the FF's (and other RPG's) that came after it... art style, characters etc. that some people just aren't into. So basically its blamed for taking the series into a certain direction that apparently makes it easy to hate.

I for one am a huge fan of this game, though im puzzled as to why now and why on the PC, I will probably get it and most likely be into it.

Those people need to blame Tetsuya Nomura not this game. After VII Square gave him more control over the franchise than just doing artwork. After they fired Sakaguchi they put Nomura in charge completely and then the franchise went completely to hell. People love to blame FF7 for this but all the problems the franchise suffered from afterwards is all Square and Nomura's doing.

Posted by gakushya

whats going on here? is this actual real? i've been playing ff7 on the PSX emulator for years now. why would anyone buy this?

Edited by Kosayn

What an awful movie voice guy trailer. Not really encouraging, just another rerelease, and I honestly don't think there's much to be improved in a remake.

Okay, so. FFVII at several points uses an unreliable narrator. It also talks about concepts like the Promised Land or the Cetra without directly showing them. Instead, it shows how those ideas are unbalancing the characters and the world. Much of the story is completely offscreen, building up in your imagination - and it shows you the occasional glimpse, the occasional twist on what you thought you had figured out. When smart people tell you they love FFVII, this is why. It's the same reason why people tend to like A Song of Ice and Fire, or Morrowind - the way it's told makes them theorize about what's really going on. For my part, that's the main thing I enjoy in any form of entertainment. Others have different tastes, I guess.

At the time, FF7 introduced a lot of us to more complicated storytelling - but it also had the basic kids save the world FF plot, so that helped. For my part, I'd been playing FFs since the first, but the earlier games all had fairly straightforward and literal storylines. Up to the point where FF6 shows the world of the Espers, it was pretty interesting, but after that, the story sort of stalled. They must have realised this at some point between the two games, because they share a lot of the same DNA otherwise.

FF7 also used boobs, polygons, swearing, and a big sword to popularize the game as 'grown up' Final Fantasy. Some people don't like that stuff - for my part, I can appreciate a well executed pander to the market.

Posted by mrpandaman

@maruko said:

Why now? Why only PC ??

I hope there'll be an iPhone version of this.

I want to believe that they are testing the waters to see how relevant FF7 may still be for the eventual FF7 remake. Or they are just doing it, because they know that the rabid FF7 fans will buy anything FF7.

Posted by Warchief

so many fanboys now need to change their pants

Posted by JDW519

I get not thinking it's the greatest thing ever, it's definitely not the best Final Fantasy, but why do people get so pissed off at this game?