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Posted by FrankTheGank

Oooh

Posted by SpaceDandie

yes

Posted by SpaceDandie
@FrankTheGank: DAMN YOU!
Posted by fwylo

YEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Edited by XChairmanDrekX

Yeah never-mind Beta is definitely better.  Much better textures and lighting.

Posted by FrankTheGank
@MrStool: l.o.l.
Edited by TheMasterDS

You guys seemed a bit slow that time. Shouldn't there be more like 10 replies by now? Also, news flash, games look better and better as they approach completion. 
 
Another important question, how do the Japanese say Beta? What I mean to ask is it a Beeee-ta version or a Baaaay-ta version? This is an important question!

Posted by Krenor

too bad the gameplay looks kinda dull

Posted by Baillie

Looks like crap either way! :D

Posted by Korne

Its just a bunch of Technical touches, like better lighting, textures, and draw distance... all things that should be improved when going from alpha to beta.

Posted by Marz

At least the battle music sounds awesome.

Posted by MjHealy

Wait, games IMPROVE from alpha to beta? Does this really warrant a trailer?

Posted by Rodiard

That Alpha rat battle was SICK son!

Posted by heavyplay

Combat looks thrilling. Can't wait to do that for a billion hours.
Posted by CaptainFish

Beta Beta looks better than Alpha Alphaa, because she is a lady.

Posted by ChristianCastillo

Hmm the beta version did have more detail but I liked the way the Alpha version had brighter environments

Posted by MisterMouse

completely not surprised that it improved!

Posted by Meteora

Pretty big difference from alpha to beta; and there's always room for improvement as a beta product. Should be fairly good, I guess.

Posted by Brendan

This whole trend of overlapping MMO's seems weird to me.  FF 11 & 14, and Galaxies & Old Republic , it almost seems like an oversaturation.  I know that all the games are very different, it just seems like it would be difficult to keep them all successfull for a long period of time.
Posted by Donos

Look at our amazing ability to follow the standard development cycle! Our average pace of work clearly deserves your money!
 
Also of note, average  mmo combat system, average graphics, average game world. Where's the part where they make this in any way a better choice than WoW?

Posted by TwoOneFive

better texturing, lighting, depth of field etc. nice

Edited by SteamPunkJin

Fucking work it out with Microsoft already.  
 

@Donos

said:

" Look at our amazing ability to follow the standard development cycle! Our average pace of work clearly deserves your money!   Also of note, average  mmo combat system, average graphics, average game world. Where's the part where they make this in any way a better choice than WoW? "

FF is such a departure from WoW - having started with FF I found WoW unplayable, and downright terrible. Being different from WoW is enough, since every Free-To-Play and even Pay-To-Play MMO since WoW has been a direct copy of it. FFXI is already a lot more attractive than WoW, 14 will look gorgeous. MMO Combat isnt' gonna change - that's like asking for a new driving system in a racing game - it's part of the formula. 
 
As for what makes it a better choice, that's simple: One Character. The Job system is what I love about FFXI and they're keeping it similar in FFIV - it eliminates the need to redo basic things; get a chocobo, get an airship pass, story missions etc all of these things stary with your character regardless of what job you're currently leveling or your level (although there are level requirements for some things).
Posted by Mordi

Who would have thought?

Posted by jakeh

FF11 reskined?  I think it so.

Posted by xxNBxx
@Krenor:
I was going to say the same thing.   
 
Square isn't evolving they are just putting out a nicer looking game.   It will fail in West.
Posted by NuDimon
@Brendan said:
" This whole trend of overlapping MMO's seems weird to me.  FF 11 & 14, and Galaxies & Old Republic , it almost seems like an oversaturation.  I know that all the games are very different, it just seems like it would be difficult to keep them all successfull for a long period of time. "
Galaxies is over 10 years old, and is not considered to be any good anyways. :d
FF XI on the other hand was developed for the PS2 and there's not really that much more room for expanding on that game anymore given the PS2 limitations. Sqeenix needs to get with the times if they want to stay competitive in the mmorpg market. :p
Edited by MagikGimp

Have to say, alpha looks better to me. Obviously beta has had more work but the problem with this volumetric lighting is that it doesn't look like how properly diffused (as in real life) lighting looks. Real life lighting is much more boring so to me alpha looks more realistic. Beta just looks, well dark, which isn't what lights do to a room.
 
Anyway, never mind graphics; it's still going to be the same shitty combat and levelling. Also, 69...

Posted by donaldkhogan

I think they bothered to put this out to the public though, because the chief concerns i read among the press were related to the time lag between the ATB bar being ready for your next command input.  In alpha as you could see the delay was painful.  In Beta they fixed it.  My guess is that this trailer was an excuse to get that single piece of data out to the masses quickly. 
 
its just a theory

Posted by Ragdrazi

Here, have metal?

Posted by Catolf
@Baillie said:
" Looks like crap either way! :D "
Then I suppose this is your 'happily' saying you won't be buying? Yey youuu~ ^^
Posted by nekoNari

I don't want to fight a rat anymore. I don't want to fight critters. I don't want to fight little monsters anymore. Can we move on from these conventional, old and hackneyed RPG game mechanics?

Posted by Shiro_Shishi

I love the beta battle system! You can attack way more often now.

Posted by zhinse

My Most anticipated game of the year.  
  
There were a lot of people who were dissatisfied with the way the Alpha initially looked and played. A video like this cleared up a lot of those concerns. I know all the changes and little things that is going on between this comparison, but that's because i've been following this game like a bloodhound ever since it was announced (and even before).  
 
There are people who aren't convinced still and i don't think square enix really knows how to win those people over. A good start would be to simply put a voice over explaining what is going on in the videos instead of letting people just guessing and coming to a inaccurate conclusion themselves.  

Posted by Burns098356GX

Still not interested in it.

Posted by Tesla

Looks shitty and incredibly boring.

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Posted by FunExplosions

Dammit! I was gonna name my character Beta Beta.

Posted by Zu

With some luck, we'll be able to solo some mobs in this one. I hated waiting for hours for a group to do anything in FFXI.

Posted by CommodoreGroovy

The first person scrolling through corridors reminded me of Myst and its sequels. Back then who would of thought we would have graphics like these this soon?

Posted by TooWalrus

It still looks like Final Fantasy, which means I still don't want to play it... I'm burned out on MMO's right now anyway, but maybe I'll give it a shot. Old Republic, too.

Posted by AURON570

i will never understand how things can "miss" if the damn thing is standing right in front of you... ugh..

Posted by Red
@heavyplay said:
" Combat looks thrilling. Can't wait to do that for a billion hours. "
 
 
After playing Dragon Age--a game that does action-strategy style combat right--I do have faith that BioWare will do well with TOR.
Posted by JackG100

I liked Alpha-lightning better...

Posted by Rio

Looks fantastic, hope I can get into the beta.

Posted by roughriders

Alpha > Beta

Posted by IceNein

As a note to all MMORPG developers, NEVER put a video of peple fighting a rat in any of your preview videos.  Its so universally derided that your hero has to start out slaying vermin that it has become cliche, and not in an entertaining way.
Posted by condor920

man that looks really boring

Posted by floodiastus

Man the combat looks so boring..

Posted by Maxathon
@Krenor:  Totally agree. Looks super boring. But then, I'm a cranky sumbitch who hasn't liked a Final Fantasy since 8.
Posted by ChrisTilton

If there's one Square Enix trailer that emphatically states, "We have run out of ideas," this is it.

Posted by Reverseface

It's gone from looking shit to looking slightly less shit.

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