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Gearbox Is Making a First-Person Shooter/MOBA

It's called Battleborn, and it's coming in 2015 or 2016, depending on who you ask.

Jul. 8 2014

Posted by: Alex

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The M83 is a little jarring to me.

Yeah, great tune but it doesn't work with this trailer. It needs something like the Dead Island reverse vibe..

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I would be 100x More excited about this if this wasn't the 10,000th new moba announced in recent times

Trying to not count it out completely as I do think a FPS Moba could be cool

Interested to see some game play

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I agree that M83 feels a little... out of place here? Even if it is a nice song.

Agreed. Really like what they did in Oblivion though.

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@guanophobic: That Oblivion score is ridiculously awesome.

Anyways, on point, it's too far out to make any sort of judgement calls whatsoever. And that's the problem, really. OK, we've been given a CG trailer and a name. Great? Bad? It doesn't matter because, let's face it, this is a 2016 release. Gearbox can shout it up as whatever they want and it won't matter until we actually see it in motion well into development. Releasing an announcement trailer this early is pretty damned dumb.

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Is this actually a MOBA or just a multiplayer action game with NPC enemies?

Kind of like how the Giantbomb staff thinks Dead Island: Epidemic is a MOBA, which it isn't?

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I haven't played a MOBA I've liked yet.

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Another game with another generic title. Yey. And all these MOBAs have a cartoonish look. Give me a MOBA that's dark, gritty and eerie.

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@swaney said:

I'd like to nominate "Hobby-Grade" as the worst new marketing phrase of 2014.

This. Why would you say something like that, and waht is it even supposed to actually mean? "We do this with love but varying level of skill and investment into it, intermittently, over time"? WHAT?!?

I actually really liked the trailer for the stark contrast with everything borderlands, esp. throughout the first 30 seconds, the saving the bug and atmosphere.. cute, in a not to saccharine way.

Not a fan of the faces (Everquest next?) and the OVERLY caricative nature of costume/body design in most cases. RoboGentleman and Elve where great, but the rest..

I don't get why so many are shitting on gearbox though, I thought all the borderlands where bordering on great, had a great critical and user reception? Did something bad happen I completely missed, or is this just like the people that are actually, truly MAD at Molineux for stuff he "promised" in the past and didn't deliver? Honestly asking..

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@voodoopc said:

Kind of like how the Giantbomb staff thinks Dead Island: Epidemic is a MOBA, which it isn't?

It literally says on their website, "The world’s first ZOMBA (Zombie Online Multiplayer Battle Arena) enters the finals stages as Deep Silver kicks off the Closed Beta for Dead Island: Epidemic". That game is absolutely a MOBA.

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Well I guess the most apt comparison for a Moba right now is probably Smite. That's basically a Third Person Shooter MOBA. So I wonder how this game will work.

I want to know how placing and aiming spells will work. Are they all gonna be movement/buff/empowered auto attacks/big AoE around the player and wont require special placement on the map? How does melee work in this set up?

How do creep work, do you get money from just last hitting, or just having to hit them. Or you only get a small amount if you hit them but not the full amount if you last hit them?

As its shown its 5v5 I would assume. Also, what platform is this for? PC?

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@benmo316 said:

Another game with another generic title. Yey. And all these MOBAs have a cartoonish look. Give me a MOBA that's dark, gritty and eerie.

Deadbreed and Nosgoth

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Next Pitchford will be telling us how this game is a bespoke experience created from locally sourced engines and ethically farmed developers.

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*a long sustained fart noise*

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wow, what a stupid video.

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@guanophobic: Nosgoth does look cool but is it really a MOBA?

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@funkofages said:

BBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Hobby grade"

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@benmo316: It's really not. It's a pretty good class-based, team-oriented multiplayer type of game. There is nothing to do in it aside from murdering/planing to murder the opponents.

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I'm sure somebody must've posted this, but for those that haven't seen it:

I don't know what half of those words even mean. I don't think I even want to know.

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Everything looked pretty alright except for this whole MOBA nonsense. I'm not quite hobby-grade enough for this game.

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I want to throw up...

Pretty sure that tweet is ironic on some level.

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@bacongames: In the last four years, Gearbox has developed two of the worst-reviewed games of all time and one sequel that was merely disappointing. Is there any reason not to expect more of the same here?

What sequel was merely disappointing? I assume you mean Borderlands 2, which was a great game. It was not "merely disappointing."

I also assume you're referencing Duke Nukem as one of the worst reviewed games of all time. Which was primarily developed by other developers because Gearbox picked it up to market and polish it to make a quick buck off of the attention that the game had developed. Which worked. The game was profitable, as I recall.

Colonial Marines is the only thing I would hold against them. And that's only because I don't remember if there were extraneous factors at play with that game's development.

We have no real idea of what to expect from this game. Gearbox is undeniably a studio full of talented people. Even developers like that can have bad games. In fact, most moderately sized studios these days have their Colonial Marines to one extent or another.

Gearbox is still a capable studio, but they NEED to find a project they are passionate about. I don't think Duke or Aliens were those projects. I'm not sure if this is, considering it seems like it might just be 2K trying to capitalize on the whole MOBA craze. But this is certainly what I'd expect from a MOBA from Gearbox so maybe this is something they are excited and passionate about, and I think that the game will be pretty good if that is the case.

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@sweep said:

That looks like Dynasty Warriors.

Dynasty Warriors moba. You heard it here first.

Don't play with my fucking emotions like that, Sweep. That would just be too perfect.

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Im open for more games with Moba elements

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I do like hand animated effects work.

My guess is 2015 Early Access on PC. 2016 console release.

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@winsord said:

@voodoopc said:

Kind of like how the Giantbomb staff thinks Dead Island: Epidemic is a MOBA, which it isn't?

It literally says on their website, "The world’s first ZOMBA (Zombie Online Multiplayer Battle Arena) enters the finals stages as Deep Silver kicks off the Closed Beta for Dead Island: Epidemic". That game is absolutely a MOBA.

MOBAs have lanes, towers, creeps, bases, tons of characters, jungling, and tactics. Dead Island: Epidemic has none of that. It's just a class based RPG that focuses on PvP and completing objectives, regardless of their stupid marketing "ZOMBA" term.

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Those character animations were too jittery for slo-mo action, but it looks neat otherwise.

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@sweep said:

That looks like Dynasty Warriors.

Dynasty Warriors moba. You heard it here first.

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends-compl/2300-8693/

Thank god someone else sees this. I thought I'd been spitting this idea into the wind.

Dynasty warriors is almost already a MOBA. It has lanes, creeps, and an unmanageable number of characters.

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@voodoopc said:

@winsord said:

@voodoopc said:

Kind of like how the Giantbomb staff thinks Dead Island: Epidemic is a MOBA, which it isn't?

It literally says on their website, "The world’s first ZOMBA (Zombie Online Multiplayer Battle Arena) enters the finals stages as Deep Silver kicks off the Closed Beta for Dead Island: Epidemic". That game is absolutely a MOBA.

MOBAs have lanes, towers, creeps, bases, tons of characters, jungling, and tactics. Dead Island: Epidemic has none of that. It's just a class based RPG that focuses on PvP and completing objectives, regardless of their stupid marketing "ZOMBA" term.

Multiplayer Battle Arenas existed before DotA and its hundreds of clones, those elements are not mandatory to that genre.

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That definitely looks like a video game. Maybe I'll play it?

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@guanophobic: yeah that pretty much mirrors my response to this.

Now I get that they wanna make a MOBA. And i'm not bothered. But why does it have to look like other MOBAs?

Also the music choice for this trailer is insufferable. I hate you modern marketing.

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@sweep said:

That looks like Dynasty Warriors.

Dynasty Warriors moba. You heard it here first.

That...sounds a lot more interesting than it should.

Fuck I was about to say something along the line of "I am a more of a Greymane"...beat me to it.

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Smite is third-person, right? Hmm. There's gotta be an FPS MOBA already out there... was Savage first-person?

Anyway, that trailer showed me nothing. What I took from it was an ex Disney artist liked the TF2 graphic style and made his own blend. That's where my imagination went.

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I'm getting particularly tired of everyone trying to cash in on the MOBA market.

Would you rather they kept trying to cash in on the regular FPS market?

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Randy Pitchford has made talking a big talk an art. I'm just not interested at all.

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Immediate question: what incentive do I have to play any character that is not a robot whose cane is a rifle?

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Hey guys, you know what we need more of?

Fucking MOBAS.

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What a waste of a decent studio.

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Cool

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Wow, there sure are a lot of clairvoyant, amateur reviewers who are also prejudiced against Gearbox!

I'm not sure a lot of these comments are much better than Randy's tweet. Right, he's not doing himself or this game a lot of favors, but we all know that was a bunch of stupid marketing lingo. We don't really know what this game actually is yet. Declaring Gearbox's "inevitable failure" at this point is colossally cynical, and that tweet will be long-forgotten by the time the game comes out.

At least when Gearbox has done genre-mashing, they've done it well. This could be interesting, and potentially very successful.

Also, is anyone really that surprised that there's an announcement trailer more than a year out from launch? Can we really fault Gearbox for doing that when that's pretty much what E3 was this year? I bet we didn't see this at E3 because it would potentially cannibalize attention from Evolve, being in a similar genre.

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WTF does "Hobby-grade" even mean?!

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Adding M83 to anything makes it better, even if it's somewhat awkwardly out of place.

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DAMN IT Gearbox, quit trying so hard to be hip; quit forcing it. M83 fits in certain atmospheres, but this video is not one of them.

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That's a shame :(.

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It seems like yesterday that Gearbox came out of left field and whacked me in the face with Borderlands. It's really strange to see that this studio has consistently dropped a notch on my radar with each subsequent release.

If anything, I think it's kinda funny how quickly the Internet turned on them after Aliens: Colonial Marines. Not that they didn't deserve every inch of shit they got for it, but, man, I can't imagine what it's like to see every scrap of good will you've garnered burst into flames like that.

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One moba too many

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@torabi: always think where you're extending a word for effect, by adding a's to make it greaaat the word would be pronounced gree-aaaaaaht. Which is gibberish.

Also, I had no problem with gearbox games till that guy was a dick on this years E3 show, now, fuck them.