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Giant Bomb Reax! Xbox One DRM Revised

Microsoft has revealed fundamental changes to how the Xbox One will handle digital-rights management and Internet connectivity, and the Giant Bomb staff reacts.

Jun. 19 2013

Cast: Jeff, Ryan, Patrick

Posted by: Ryan

In This Episode:

Xbox One

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Like Jeff was saying in the video, if this is how crazy things are now; what the hell is going to happen in the next few months leading up to launch?

Someone launches early?

New subsidized pricing models?

Sony throws the camera in there?

Free games in the bundles?

This is going to be a bloody struggle this holiday, and god bless them, everyone. :)

PS4 will probably come with a "free" game. In that, it'll probably come bundled with some free PS+ time, and thus a free copy of Driveclub.

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Cat's out of the bag Microsoft. My sale is already gone. :)

Also fuck you for still not allowing developers to release on your online store without a publishing deal.

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GIF of Jeff going "FUCCCK" please NOW

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Don't care about this Xbox DRM crap. All I want to know is what's in the box Drew? WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?!

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What a grace note, Scoops.

And what an incredibly weird fucking time in gaming right now.

I wonder if folks at Nintendo are rocking back and forth going "oh shit oh shit oh shit". Sony is hungry for it, and MS is crazy hands desperate. Exciting.

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What a bomb to drop before moving. Scoops seems to get the best.... well scoops. Also I am kind of surprised by the responses. From, "Aw man, but now I can't share games?" to "Yesssss, I can finally pre-order One!" are pretty much the opposite from what I expected.

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Fucking awesome, Patrick! It chaps my ass looking at Joystiq and IGN's stories and not knowing why Patrick and Giant Bomb aren't credited with breaking the news.

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Edited By ArsenalFan

The real question is what doesn't Dave Lang have to hide?

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Two things here. 1) I inadvertently had just popped a bag of popcorn and sat down in front of my PC to watch this video and eat popcorn and drink a can of pop. Which I find hilarious for some reason.

2) Does this complete reversal of their plans mean that they are going to change the name to X-Box 180?

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EDIT: I paused the video like seconds before Brad said the bit about everyone already coming up with the X-Box 180 thing. :(

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It's funny watching people fall all over congratulating Patrick, except everyone who reads GAF knows this story was actually broken by an obscure site called Whathifi.com. They even tweeted it out about an hour before it was on GB.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=596581&page=1

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Patrick is a rock star! Goin' miss him!

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Feels like this came out of nowhere after all the press and statements from Microsoft but I can understand if there was a concern with pre-order numbers compared to Sony.

Great job breaking the story Patrick. This is how you leave San Fransisco with style.

[edit]

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Lego Mario Bros, confirmed!

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Edited By BRich

How many dollars is it worth to go disc free? I'd probably buy digitally if it was $10 more expensive just so I don't have transport those darn discs around. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the possibility of digital prices equaling or beating retail.

Damn, I was so looking forward to the next generation before this announcement. RIP game sharing. :(

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Why is it the videos i want to watch the most, are the one that stutter and skip the worst?

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@brich said:

How many dollars is it worth to go disc free? I'd probably buy digitally if it was $10 more expensive just so I don't have transport those darn discs around. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the possibility of digital prices equaling or beating retail.

Damn, I was so looking forward to the next generation before this announcement. RIP game sharing. :(

What? If anything, digital versions may be cheaper as a further incentive to buy new, and a way to combat used games. Not to mention it actually requires fewer resources and less money to just copy some data, rather than pressing discs, boxing and wrapping copies, filling orders, shipping, etc. Sure, the whole sharing idea may be dead now, which is unfortunate, but the digital future likely (well, hopefully) means better prices.

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Edited By misfittoy

It's a day full of win. Though I'm with others in the question of how does this affect digital sharing. That was actually more relevant to me than sharing and lending because I liked the idea of letting someone else who lives in another state be able to play my game. Neat idea.

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It's about time someone got around to investigating the Lang Zone.

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Now we know why Scoops got his meetings cancelled at E3. They must fear his scooping.

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Great to hear that Ryan's still a DRM apologist

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Good job Patrick! Leaving SF with a BANG!

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Congratulations Scoops!

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So Proud of Scoops! Way to go man.

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Someone needs to make a Gif of the last 3 or so seconds when Patrick says "Watch Out Dave Lang Whatch You Got to Hide." That would make my day :)

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Give yourself a hand, Scoops!

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fantastic.gif

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Why is patrick getting so much praise? An anonymous source willingly gave him info that was getting announced today anyway. Stop treating this like it's All the Presidents Men.

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Well after E3 Microsoft had to do something to change things, they just simply couldn't afford to keep going down the route they were taking and just taking hits left and right from just about all the media, gamers, internet bloggers and even while they were being interviewed and then at the E3 2013 Sony press conference Sony just saying FUCK IT and FUCK DRM just completely changed everything. There was no real financial gain to go out and buy the X-1 with all that restriction there just wasn't so me personally thought that something had to be done and really kind of expected this. With the Launch so far away still there was always plenty of time to do a FULL REVERSAL on their entire DRM policies, but actually seeing them come right out and saying they've scrapped DRM publicly was something I didn't expect. It was the only logical way to prevent the X-1 from being a complete catastrophe but didn't expect MS to backtrack quite so much.

This is great news for people who love the xbox and great for gamers and everyone who spoke out about this whole DRM bullshit because its extremely bad for the gaming industry and breaks the entertainment value of this industry in a big way. Lets not get ahead of our selves though, Sony still had the best line up of games by far, yes X-1 had good games, but it was nothing along the stella tittles Sony are releasing with the PS4 so does this reallllllly affect or change anything in the long run? (not really) from a games standpoint but you will still have the xbox minions falling over themselves that MS have done this reversal.

People are calling this an all out war especially right after Sonys Press conference as well... What I do think what Sony will do to counter act this is go back to basics with their PS3 model and make multiplayer free and remove it from the play station + price model they had which was a copy of xbox live essentially. This brings back the center of attention into the consoles which is all about the games, and not having to pay for any multiplayer gaming is definitely the apatite you'd want.

Lets not also forget... The whole Xbox One's architecture is BUILT around these DRM features and restrictions, there is ZERO GUARENTEE's that Microsoft cannot just simply turn all this stuff back on 2 years into the X-1's life, they'll be able to turn all this stuff on at anytime they want as its part of the engineering code, do you really want to run the risk of Microsoft doing just that after you've all bought it?

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Why is it so important who says it first? Why is that a thing? I don't get it.

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This why they call him 'Scoops'.

A legend.

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Why is patrick getting so much praise? An anonymous source willingly gave him info that was getting announced today anyway. Stop treating this like it's All the Presidents Men.

High Crimes and Misdemeanors of the Internet: tonight at 11!

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I was planning on getting an Xbone eventually when the price went down to something approaching Reasonable so that I could enjoy the exclusives. Now it looks like I won't even have to feel morally questionable when I do so. Score!

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@dethfish said:

Yeah, ok, but what did Drew need the box for?

Jimmy Hoffa

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For some reason I really want a 3DS XL now.

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www.giantbomb.com/chicago *mic drop*

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Hello xbox my old friend,

I've come to talk with you again

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Sony should respond with a subsidized console price next week. Keep the crazy shit rolling!

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Xbox 180?

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It's funny watching people fall all over congratulating Patrick, except everyone who reads GAF knows this story was actually broken by an obscure site called Whathifi.com. They even tweeted it out about an hour before it was on GB.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=596581&page=1

He wasn't the first one but only Whathifi.com and him had actually got stories out making claims about this before official confirmation came(the other sites were just citing these two as source) so he's pretty much right there with Whathifi.com in breaking the story.

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So.......... "Xbox does 180". Should they now call it Xbox 180?

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Edited By bolognarock

So...... "Xbox does 180"

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its now called the xbox one eighty

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These hot, hot scoops are falling from the sky!

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This is probably the most exciting console generation in a long time...and it hasn't even begun yet! This is just complete and utter madness on all fronts.

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For me this still doesn't change the fact that I was planning on getting a PS4 at launch and an xbone sometime later. I love the Forza series and Titanfall looks awesome. But I still don't want to pay for a kinect that I don't want to use.

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This shit is fucking CRAZY!!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2lfrkdy8s1qddh1n.gif

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I'm just wondering what company will EVER work with MS again, considering how flip-fuckin'-floppity they were on this.

How are you supposed to rely on a partner that apparently has no real plan, no messaging, no confidence and not enough balls so stand up for his decision.

I was a big proponent of the direction MS was going in. In a way, I suppose I feel a minute form of betrayal.

And the saddest part is that MS is just losing more people with this. This doesn't make up for the fact that they had those policies - not to the people who actually cared, at least. They're still $100 more expensive, still have way too much functionality that the average gamer doesn't want or need, and still force you to have the Kinect plugged in (and ostensibly looking at you).

Microsoft is winning no friends with this move. All they're doing is showing everyone that they have no idea what they're doing.

Congratulations, Sony; You've created another Dreamcast.

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Well now I feel more comfortable buying an Xbox One. I just need to wait for the price to come down at least a little, and a couple of games come out that are exclusive to it which I am interested in. Sunset Overdrive couldbe one of those titles, if it can live up to the promises of that trailer.

Either way, I'm definitely still going to be picking up PS4 for their content (which both interests me more right now and also is actually an exclusive rather than also coming to PC). So don't panic too much, Sony.

That said, I'm sure plenty of people who are deep into the 360's infrastructure will be super relieved that they can stick to the system they are already invested in with achievements, friend lists and the such like. So good job on that front, Microsoft.

EDIT: Also, good job Scoops for bringing the big scoops before you move outta the office. Good luck over in Chicagoville, and make sure to Skype in regularly for Bombcast news drops!

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People, come on, don't be gullible. They had this whole concept of "futureproofing" the console with their ideas that ignored everything the consumer said. It was so draconian in comparison to Sony, and that made the whole world cry so loud that they had to change their whole concept just to be sure they make a profit. They are now doing something they don't agree with, and I can't trust them that they won't make some crazy shit up again. It's $100 more expensive, the hardware is weaker, the controller is not better and there are less exclusive. If you don't agree with my first point (being that we have to stand up against corporations or they will do whatever the fuck they want), you clearly see the facts I listed in the end. If you have money, get all three consoles, if not, there is no question that the PS4 is more bang for even less buck.

What I meant is, if we support Microsoft now, it just means everyone can try to get away with crazy policies and then correct them afterwards, if we show them we are not impressed by their "change", we will ensure that all future ideas are consumer orientated firstly