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Here's That Crazy Ass Metal Gear Solid V Trailer Everyone's Talking About

So which part of this do we want to try and wrap our heads around first? My vote goes to the flying fire whale.

Mar. 27 2013

Posted by: Alex

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For someone who has been in a coma for 9 years, he's in pretty damn good shape. Being laid up in bed for 6 months is usually more than enough time for the body to become severely weak due to muscular atrophy.

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@quarters said:

@max_cherry: This game is a direct follow up to some of the events in Peace Walker, so no, that won't happen. In the Ground Zeroes trailer, they mention several things from that game, and this seems to be based off the true ending of PW. The Ground Zeroes portion takes place in 1974/1975, and the part after he wakes up will probably be around 1983.

But, that's impossible! Big Boss was in a coma in 1974.

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Well one things for certain; MGS5 will end with Big Boss' founding of "Outer Heaven" in the 70's.

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I can't wait to play this fantastically ridiculous, stupid game.

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@quarters said:

@max_cherry: This game is a direct follow up to some of the events in Peace Walker, so no, that won't happen. In the Ground Zeroes trailer, they mention several things from that game, and this seems to be based off the true ending of PW. The Ground Zeroes portion takes place in 1974/1975, and the part after he wakes up will probably be around 1983.

But, that's impossible! Big Boss was in a coma in 1974.

Eh? Are you thinking that he was in a coma in '72 for LET? Because he was injured then and at least out of commission for a bit. But Peace Walker is clearly in '74, and he seems to get knocked into this 9 year coma shortly thereafter. I only say it could be '75 because I don't know how late in the year Peace Walker was.

I mean, it's possible it could be a little bit later than that, but I still don't think it will be that much further. Miller's presence(who looks the same), Chico's presence(who looks the same), the helicopter with "1974" on it, the mention of Paz, and everything else just seems to indicate a close time period.

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Man I want to buy a PS3 just to play MGSIV and V.

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I am so ready.

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@Quarters:: I'm definitely not suggesting the coma happened later. I'm suggesting that the coma happened earlier in the early 70's i.e. 1971 (the "copyright" date of the song from the first ground zeroes trailer) and he wakes up in the late 70's, specifically 1980. I'm proposing a one coma theory ( the L.E.T. Coma is the same as this 9 year Coma). It is impossible for the coma to take place later than 1973 because Big Boss was accounted for by Naomi in 1982. I don't think Peace Walker is cannon because it contradicts MGS1 and would hamper Kojima's creative flexibility in telling the story of Outer Heaven's creation. For the sake of future brevity I will refer to this as "The One Coma Theory" from here on out.

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@trafalgarlaw said:

@christoffer said:

Let me guess. BF4 shows a beautiful trailer and people can't wait to complain about the lack of freedom. MGS shows a beautiful trailer and people can't wait to praise everything.

Yup, expectations at play.

Don't litter this beautiful MGS related article/trailer with Battlefield 3.5 garbage. Thanks.

It says a lot about "bad evil russian overlords are pestering poor old americans again" and how everyone is tired of generic shooter #21 but are psyched about a new MGS. MGS is the superior game and too bad it stole BF4's shine, deal with it.

And this is what I'm talking about. Have you played BF4, no. Have you played this, no. So how is this not about expectations?

I did. It was called Battlefield 3. It means that people have high expectations of Metal Gear Solid. Battlefield? Meh.

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This looks like pre-order worthy

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Please let there be a PC version.

Got a new pc and the PS3 just can't hold up anymore

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Don't worry there will be a PC version in addition to a PS4 and next Xbox version. The Fox engine was designed to thrive on multiple platforms both current and Next Generation. The Fox 2.0 engine will be much more powerful, but will not run on current generation hardware; however, it will still have the same multiplatform philosophy.

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@Quarters:: I'm definitely not suggesting the coma happened later. I'm suggesting that the coma happened earlier in the early 70's i.e. 1971 (the "copyright" date of the song from the first ground zeroes trailer) and he wakes up in the late 70's, specifically 1980. I'm proposing a one coma theory ( the L.E.T. Coma is the same as this 9 year Coma). It is impossible for the coma to take place later than 1973 because Big Boss was accounted for by Naomi in 1982. I don't think Peace Walker is cannon because it contradicts MGS1 and would hamper Kojima's creative flexibility in telling the story of Outer Heaven's creation. For the sake of future brevity I will refer to this as "The One Coma Theory" from here on out.

How does PW contradict MGS1? Genuinely curious, I never saw any problem with it. Also, Gametrailers posted a 17 minute interview with Kojima a bit ago, and he says that Ground Zeroes takes place "immediately after Peace Walker". Phantom Pain takes place nine years after that.

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So, it's a love story?

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@christoffer said:

@trafalgarlaw said:

@christoffer said:

Let me guess. BF4 shows a beautiful trailer and people can't wait to complain about the lack of freedom. MGS shows a beautiful trailer and people can't wait to praise everything.

Yup, expectations at play.

Don't litter this beautiful MGS related article/trailer with Battlefield 3.5 garbage. Thanks.

It says a lot about "bad evil russian overlords are pestering poor old americans again" and how everyone is tired of generic shooter #21 but are psyched about a new MGS. MGS is the superior game and too bad it stole BF4's shine, deal with it.

And this is what I'm talking about. Have you played BF4, no. Have you played this, no. So how is this not about expectations?

I did. It was called Battlefield 3. It means that people have high expectations of Metal Gear Solid. Battlefield? Meh.

Well there you go. I hope you learn the meaning of the "benefit of the doubt" someday.

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@Quarters:: I'm definitely not suggesting the coma happened later. I'm suggesting that the coma happened earlier in the early 70's i.e. 1971 (the "copyright" date of the song from the first ground zeroes trailer) and he wakes up in the late 70's, specifically 1980. I'm proposing a one coma theory ( the L.E.T. Coma is the same as this 9 year Coma). It is impossible for the coma to take place later than 1973 because Big Boss was accounted for by Naomi in 1982. I don't think Peace Walker is cannon because it contradicts MGS1 and would hamper Kojima's creative flexibility in telling the story of Outer Heaven's creation. For the sake of future brevity I will refer to this as "The One Coma Theory" from here on out.

PW is 100% cannon. Ground Zeroes takes place right after PW in 1974 and acts as a prologue from Phantom Pain and will tell the story of Militaires San Frontieres demise. Phantom Pain takes place in 1983 when Big Boss wakes up from his coma. In PP he and Master Miller investigate the XOF organisation as a splinter group called Diamond Dogs.

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@quarters said:

@max_cherry said:

@Quarters:: I'm definitely not suggesting the coma happened later. I'm suggesting that the coma happened earlier in the early 70's i.e. 1971 (the "copyright" date of the song from the first ground zeroes trailer) and he wakes up in the late 70's, specifically 1980. I'm proposing a one coma theory ( the L.E.T. Coma is the same as this 9 year Coma). It is impossible for the coma to take place later than 1973 because Big Boss was accounted for by Naomi in 1982. I don't think Peace Walker is cannon because it contradicts MGS1 and would hamper Kojima's creative flexibility in telling the story of Outer Heaven's creation. For the sake of future brevity I will refer to this as "The One Coma Theory" from here on out.

How does PW contradict MGS1? Genuinely curious, I never saw any problem with it. Also, Gametrailers posted a 17 minute interview with Kojima a bit ago, and he says that Ground Zeroes takes place "immediately after Peace Walker". Phantom Pain takes place nine years after that.

It contradicts MGS1 because if Big Boss just woke up from a 9 year coma in 1983, then how did he meet up with Naomi in 1982 as she clearly explained over the codec in between Ocelot's Torture sessions in the first Metal Gear Solid. Also, Liquid implies that they were cloned while Big Boss was in a long coma. They were both cloned in 1972 and Big Boss was still in a coma in 1974. Also, Big Boss would be well into his sixties by 1983 according to Liquid. There are numerous other inconsistencies as well. I'm very good with details and dates, and the original MGS with the happy ending is the core untouchable cannon of the series. Kojima will have to make minor changes to the dates in PW if he wants it to fit in with MGS1, and hence complete the circle.

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@quarters said:

@max_cherry said:

@Quarters:: I'm definitely not suggesting the coma happened later. I'm suggesting that the coma happened earlier in the early 70's i.e. 1971 (the "copyright" date of the song from the first ground zeroes trailer) and he wakes up in the late 70's, specifically 1980. I'm proposing a one coma theory ( the L.E.T. Coma is the same as this 9 year Coma). It is impossible for the coma to take place later than 1973 because Big Boss was accounted for by Naomi in 1982. I don't think Peace Walker is cannon because it contradicts MGS1 and would hamper Kojima's creative flexibility in telling the story of Outer Heaven's creation. For the sake of future brevity I will refer to this as "The One Coma Theory" from here on out.

How does PW contradict MGS1? Genuinely curious, I never saw any problem with it. Also, Gametrailers posted a 17 minute interview with Kojima a bit ago, and he says that Ground Zeroes takes place "immediately after Peace Walker". Phantom Pain takes place nine years after that.

It contradicts MGS1 because if Big Boss just woke up from a 9 year coma in 1983, then how did he meet up with Naomi in 1982 as she clearly explained over the codec in between Ocelot's Torture sessions in the first Metal Gear Solid. Also, Liquid implies that they were cloned while Big Boss was in a long coma. They were both cloned in 1972 and Big Boss was still in a coma in 1974. Also, Big Boss would be well into his sixties by 1983 according to Liquid. There are numerous other inconsistencies as well. I'm very good with details and dates, and the original MGS with the happy ending is the core untouchable cannon of the series. Kojima will have to make minor changes to the dates in PW if he wants it to fit in with MGS1, and hence complete the circle.

PW is without a doubt canon, a lot of the dates from MGS1 however were already retconned by MGS3's credits sequence.

Also, I personally subscribe to the idea that Big Boss has been in more comas than he's had hot meals. While this is probably the coma in which the Enfants Terribles project happened all that means is Kojima is retconning the dates yet again (which isn't really a big deal.) Originally the story was that Big Boss went into that coma after fighting in vietnam and before starting MSF. Since Ground Zeroes seems to be a direct sequel to PW (story threads and characters were shown in that first trailer) we can probably assume that the coma in these games is either in 74-75. Your theory revolved entirely on considering PW non-canon, which would render Ground Zeroes non-canon too. Making the whole theory a little sillier than just admitting that Kojima has no issues with retconning previous games established fictions.

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So it seems this is going to be all kinds of anime crazy MGS :D I cant wait for it !!!!!

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This is a hot trailer

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I have no interest in a MGS game that breaks cannon with MGS1. My reasons are deeply personal, but MGS is now over for me. In other words, I'm retired.