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Edited by gbrading

Interestingly curious. 
Edit: Finally! Now I can rest for eternity. :P
Posted by StandStrong

Soooo close... 

Edited by Ventilaator

"Set in a breathtaking CASTLE REALM" almost seems like admitting that their tech may be pretty awesome, but it still has it's limitations. 
 
It's a castle.
 
Don't get me wrong, this looks absolutely amazing, I just didn't like that one line in the trailer.

Posted by lim_ak

And here was me hoping for something pretty and explorable with all that tech. Looks pretty is all that I'm really going to say about it for now. 

Posted by MordeaniisChaos

It's almost too good to believe. Seriously.

Posted by hedfone

this is on the iphone and not xbla why?

Edited by Cypher

I only got around to downloading the Epic Citadel tech demo a couple weeks ago, and i've gotta say, seeing that in person was really jarring. As far as I'm concerned, this game cements the iOS platforms as a legitimate competitor to the 3DS, PSP, and PSP2.
An actual, great looking 3D game on a handheld that can easily stand up against whatever SCE and NTD will be able to pump out? Okay, great.
(At some point in the near future) A pretty darn good game engine that can be used by companies and indie devs to produce content of that quality without a huge upfront cost for building the tech? Holy SHIT.

Posted by Jayross

Eh... I'm gearing up for disappointment.. Big-budget games on the iPhone tend not to be that much fun.

Edited by Cypher
@hedfone: It's half a new game from Epic, it's half a full product that Epic is using to prepare Unreal for the iOS platform. Shipping a full game will catch far more stuff than "Yay! It runs!". As well, it also serves as a demonstration for people who want to look into using Unreal for iOS as well. I would be far more interested in the middleware that has shipped a (as IB is likely to be) high-quality, high-selling title than the middle that shipped a tech demo with almost nothing going on.
Posted by Branthog

Looks great, but not sure I'm into "finger swiping" mechanics.

Posted by maskedarcstrike

So much for hoping for Shadow Complex 2 anytime soon................

Posted by Afroman269

Looks impressive but I don't see myself playing this on my iPhone, I prefer games on the level of Game Dev Story for my iPhone gaming needs.

Edited by RustySpoon

 Oh, please. Let me reintroduce you two: Fruit Ninja, meet RPG. RPG, meet Fruit Ninja.
 
Budding memes aside, this looks pretty interesting.

Posted by stinky

i'm impressed.  its on a mo-fo PHONE!  
 what i am really waiting on is game that breaks the good story barrier. 
hoping they didn't ignore that at the expense of flashy graphics.  

Posted by Lukeweizer

Looks neat. Probably gonna be up there with the most expensive iOS games (like $13?). 

Posted by HS21

You'll be able to play this for 20 minutes before draining a full charge.

Posted by quirkwood

um... WOW!

Posted by Doctorchimp

How about some Android love EPIC? 
 
If you need to draw barriers between CPUs...go for it...I have the hummingbird CPU as it is...

Posted by RaidenMitsuru

Made me think of Crossed Swords for the Neo Geo.

Posted by Hexogen

I don't understand the appeal of playing games like these without real buttons.

Posted by Yzzerdd
@Hexogen said:

" I don't understand the appeal of playing games like these without real buttons. "

Sheer  novelty value
  
Posted by Doctorchimp
@Hexogen said:
" I don't understand the appeal of playing games like these without real buttons. "
Because you could whip this out waiting in line for a movie or in between classes...without bringing some chunky device just to play games. You could be texting your friends and then turn the game on. It's called the future as people get closer and closer to that portable handheld tricorder that does everything you need day to day.
 
No one's saying hey let me turn the 360 off for this iphone game.
Posted by GozerTC

So I've loaded up the Epic Demo and I have to say it rocks.  It is a SCARY nice 3D engine.  That said, as many here have said, why make it a bloody ACTION GAME?!?!  Seriously this engine is wonderful, but use it to the strengths of the platform not the blood weaknesses!  
 
Adventure games would rock with this engine.  Standard TURN BASED RPG's would rule.  Anything that doesn't require a twitch based reaction system would rule!  
Posted by KoolAid

So... I make iPhone games.   I'm currently working on a fantasy combat game.
 
And I guess this is the competition?
 
...Fuck.

Posted by Hexogen
@Doctorchimp said:
" @Hexogen said:
" I don't understand the appeal of playing games like these without real buttons. "
Because you could whip this out waiting in line for a movie or in between classes...without bringing some chunky device just to play games. You could be texting your friends and then turn the game on. It's called the future as people get closer and closer to that portable handheld tricorder that does everything you need day to day. No one's saying hey let me turn the 360 off for this iphone game. "
I'm not denying the convenience, it's just that I don't think big complicated games like this are suited to the iPhone. I think it's much better at simpler, games that are easily digestible in small chunks. Especially if you're mostly going to play it for short amounts of time, like as you say, while waiting in line for a movie or something. I downloaded Epic Citadel, the tech demo for this game, and it sure is pretty, but even just moving around felt clunky to me. I wouldn't want to play a game like that. 
 
Just my opinion though. By no means am I saying everyone who wants to play games like this on their phone is wrong, I just personally don't see the appeal.
Posted by Doctorchimp
@Hexogen: I don't get where you're getting that this is going to be some super complicated game.  Small chunks? Like individual fights that are about a minute long chunks? They aren't porting Elder Scrolls, you're just moving your guy from place to place to fight something.
 
Your take on this thing is a bit skewed dude. Bringing up Citadel proves that, all citadel did was draw up some graphics and have you walk around. It's a tech demo, the only thing you could take from that is how it looked. Games play differently from tech demos, actually tech demos don't play at all..they just show you lights and textures the engine can do...
Posted by geirr

Kinda looks like a button masher for a device without buttons,
which means it's a .. window smear-er? Screen swiper?

Posted by Keslus9
@Ventilaator: Of course it's going to have limitations, it is for an iphone/ipad after all.  Unless you'd like to use 6 Gb of storage to cruise outside of the castle..
Posted by diggylee1

This game looks pretty good but honestly why isn't a game like this on consoles. I'm not saying this won't be a good game but still. Shoot with a longer dev cycle this would make for an awesome XBLA title! Who knows it very well might end up there? 
  
I agree that this is not the type of game that needs to be an app on the iPhone because RPGs are normally longer games by nature unless this is 1 to 2 at most? Most iPhone gamers want a gaming quick fix while waiting to do something i.e. Angry Birds. I for one prefer tactile controls over a touch screen anyday but i'll have to actually play it to see if it works.
Posted by JoelTGM

"From the makers of Epic Citadel" ?  So from the makers of a tech demo.  Uh.   
 
The game has great graphics at least.  I'm all for this sort of thing seeing as the iPod Touch is my only handheld gaming device.  

Posted by TheChaos

PS2 graphics with upscaled textures. 
Finally.

Posted by buckybit

... enjoy your 5min battery life, everyone.

Posted by stinky
@KoolAid said:
" So... I make iPhone games.   I'm currently working on a fantasy combat game. And I guess this is the competition?  ...Fuck. "
go an artistic route if you can find the artist. 
for example, Patapon is freaking amazing looking but not even 3D.
Posted by MikkaQ
@Yzzerdd said:
" @Hexogen said:

" I don't understand the appeal of playing games like these without real buttons. "

Sheer  novelty value
  
"
This man has clearly never played Game Dev Story.  
 
Anyway, it's a lot more convenient than carrying around a DS or PSP, and... honestly, I can't take those things out in public. Way too nerdy. With the iPhone, it's more acceptable to idly play on the subway, because fuck it, it's just part of your phone.
Posted by MrHammeh
@XII_Sniper said:
Way too nerdy. "
Ah, the anonymity of the internet eh?  ;)
Posted by Maxszy

Better be designed for the Ipad too! Bigger screen!
 
This is going to kill battery life though...

Edited by Daftasabat

Angry Birds Beater!!    I doubt this will be 59p in the App Store

Posted by wfolse1

Wow, that is incredibly impressive.

Posted by pizzafreak360

I'll admit that visually speaking it looks pretty good, but I don't think it isn't anything that psp or 3ds couldn't accomplish. 

Edited by Vitor
@stinky said:

" @KoolAid said:

" So... I make iPhone games.   I'm currently working on a fantasy combat game. And I guess this is the competition?  ...Fuck. "
go an artistic route if you can find the artist. for example, Patapon is freaking amazing looking but not even 3D. "
Agreed. Some of the best looking games I've ever played have relied more upon a unique art direction that the number of polys they're pushing.  
 
Also, they seemed to only show off the combat here - if it's a fantasy combat RPG, I really hope there's some metroidvania style exploration otherwise it's not going to hold my attention for too long (although, it is made by Chair, them what did Shadow Complex, so you'd expect that to be a given...)
Posted by FunExplosions

Not touch-screening any more games until I get myself a pair of see-through thumbs.

Posted by Sanitysend

Wow that looks fantastic

Posted by LiquidElite
@XII_Sniper:  

You must be a very casual gamer to care about being nerdy... I’d prefer better controls over potentially looking nerdy any day.

Posted by patrick
@buckybit said:
" ... enjoy your 5min battery life, everyone. "
This is for the iPhone.
Posted by invadernick

Wow, the graphics look amazing for an Iphone game. I never knew the Iphone was capable of this.

Posted by Kolonel_Kool

I want this game... with buttons!

Posted by Monkeyman04
@patrick said:
" @buckybit said:
" ... enjoy your 5min battery life, everyone. "
This is for the iPhone. "
OK then two min battery life. No matter what phone it's for, the phones' battery will die with the quickness.
Posted by anbumakura

I have to say it looks more interesting than most games on the App Store. If it's not too prohibitively expensive I'll probably buy it just to try it out.

Posted by patrick
@Monkeyman04 said:
" @patrick said:
" @buckybit said:
" ... enjoy your 5min battery life, everyone. "
This is for the iPhone. "
OK then two min battery life. No matter what phone it's for, the phones' battery will die with the quickness. "
Modern electronic devices can last for hours. Portable gaming has actually been around for a while now. At worst the DSi has a life of 9 hours while the iPhone 4 is 6 hours, and that's only assuming you're going out of your way to make the battery not last. Mobile games are usually inherently shorter and with the nature of the devices they're typically charged well within the time the battery is up. Phones have the battery advantage of having much more easily available methods of charging as opposed to dedicated portable gaming devices which are mainly ac adapters.
Posted by madsoultorsk

I hope it playes okay on the 3GS. Epic Citadel worked fine in spots but others it really got slow. And that was without AI and other stuff. 

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