Here's How You'll Create Your Sims in The Sims 4

I honestly had forgotten this was even announced.

Yeah I guess it's about what makes you more nostalgic. I never played the Sims 1, only saw it at my friends'. The Sims 2 on the other hand was one of the first proper games I played after spending most of the years before that playing older games such as Roadrash, Mario, some dos games etc. (since I had a weak PC and no new consoles)

Sims 2 after that was like magic to me. I remember being impressed by the detailed texture of a barstool when I zoomed all the way in :D

"But I want to go deeper."

> Maximum headshake achieved.

Yeah, that's my concern, too. One the one hand, pretty stoked to see a entry in The Sims. On the other hand, every numbered entry feels like a ton of stuff was stripped out, so you get to play the "buy a bunch of expansion packs again" game to get back on par with the previous version.

That said, I too am not confident I've finally wised up.

Yeah, The Sims have a dedicated studio while SimCity was created by Maxis but, at this point, The Sims 4 team is completely different than even the Sims 3 team.

The worse thing about new The Sims games is that the initial base game always ships with the bare minimum and you'll have to spend $40 dollars for things like having them go to College or to have a dog or for snow. With that said, I'm still going to end up buying it because I'm a fucking idiot.

So how much of the game is going to be relegated to the numerous expansions, stuff packs, and microtransactions that'll be shoved in your face at every turn?

Yeah, but I need my Sims 4 to play on a Cyberdyne System, to get that realistic interaction done, and truly integrate with the net. My Sims should spring to life, and be mobile like a tron army on the move, not a static hood. There should be a spore, a spark of life to them, a sim planet of activity. Maybe I'm just a dreamer, a ghost in the machine.

@john1912 said:

Yeah! Fuck games and genres that don't appeal to ME personally! If I don't like it, it shouldn't exist!

Fuck the Sims, this franchise needs to die in a fire!

what you mean the actual real use of the word swagger? are we using words correctly in the year 2014? yes, we are.
it's about goddamn time someone did.

holy shit this is the only thing i care about. I jacked up my sims 3 with every expac they had and holy christ getting through a single loading screen took years

The last time they took The Sims online it was a colossal mess.

Jeff Green worked on the Sim team while he was at EA and he said people would act like The Sims Online never existed or was this thing that was uncomfortable to bring up. That combined with how Sim City went over makes it very unlikely that we'll see a(nother) online version of The Sims any time soon.

If your problem is just "laziness" you can easily import/download families that other people have made. The Sims 3 made it even easier to do than the first two games did by simply clicking a button. What you're asking for or the reason you're asking for it doesn't require the game to be online. It requires an internet connection for sure, but not an always online set up.

The Sims would actually benefit of the kind of DRM that they used for Sim City I think. I always enjoyed a bit of The Sims, but it got tedious to make all these different sim-familys just to unlock stuff, so I would prefer it if it was online like Sim City.

Part of me would really like to get into the Sims again. It seems like a good podcast game, like Minecraft, Euro Truck Simulator, or Crusader Kings. Sims 3 just didn't have that magic, though. It was also buggy and poorly optimized as heck. So I just don't know what to think about yet another version. I guess I'll just have to wait to see if I can get the first 8 expansions on some Steam sale and try it myself then.

While the Sims 2 was obviously better, nothing will ever replace the first Sims for me. I remember everything from that game. Even the cheat codes I used later on. When I first got the Vacation expansion I was blown away I could leave town.

Man... that game was so great.

Game Development rule #56: With each increment in a game series boobs increase by a cup.

Well it is good they learned something from Spore. The next frontier on this stuff seems to be giving a lot more control over the hair.

Yep exactly the way I felt. Nice to someone else also found Sims2 as special as I did

Over the past five years my wife has sunken hundreds if not thousands of hours into the Sims 3. To her it's basically what WoW or SWG was to me. And if you look at it that way the $500 you might spend over the course of it's lifetime are only a $8/month subscription :-)

I want to be excited about Sims 4... But we all know that the stock game won't have very many items and they'll expect you to buy endless expansion packs that, $200 dollars later become a full game! They'll have a "pets" expansion and a "college" expansion as expected. Too bad a game company like EA hasn't come up with... I don't know, "digital clay" or something that you could use to make your own items.... Wait a minute! Who am I kidding! Last minute they'll annouce that you can only build one room at a time and if your sim wants a sandwich he'll have to link up with the builder of the kitchen online in order to get the "bread" and "meat" resources to do so!

I hope they do something more with the personality system from the last game, I thought that stuff was fascinating.

Yes welcome to the 21st century.

I thought the base Sims 3 game was good. Sure they released a bunch of expansions, but I saw all of those as optional crap that I didn't care about. I did pick up a couple of the expansions because Origin had them on sale dirt cheap, but didn't really see the need for them.

I want to see the AI for the characters this time. I still felt like I was micromanaging too much in 3. I should be able to trust my Sim to go get up and go to work without me having to direct every single step of the process. But I will buy Sims 4. Even with the annoyances, it is a good game.

Man, there was a time where I was outright addicted to The Sims. Sunk a ludicrous amount of hours into the first two games, but The Sims 3 just didn't quite capture the magic for me again. Well, part of that was down to once again losing all of the features from The Sims 2's expansions packs... they even took out pets again for the base game.

Still, The Sims series hold a special place in my heart. Always had great music, too. I've always especially liked the build menu themes from The Sims, which eventually made into The Sims 2 as its 'New Age' radio station I think.

@zevvion: One thousand times this, my friend!

I always tell myself 'oh great another Sims game, it's gonna be rubbish'. I usually wind up buying it on sale and playing it for a couple of hundred hours or so.

Bella is a big girl, they couldn't resist the slider could they ;)

It sucks how much I don't care at all about The Sims, yet still want to play it.

Can't wait to see how EA fucks this franchise up too.

you guys can push and pull on my regions anytime.

Narrator sounds like he's reading from a script, poorly.

Don't know why it's essential to have a dev narrate these things sometimes. It's scripted, we know it's scripted, they know we know it's scripted, get someone who can do it right.

Yep, also, there's www.modthesims.info/

Yeah, only for the last several hundred years. It's pretty new...

@banderdash: I think he meant swagger, but people shouldn't shorten swagger to "swag."

Now a question that matters. Can I still kill my sims?

A year ago I believe, although they only teased it with a banner.

I love the Sims. I have every expansion for the Sims 3. Yes, it has performance issues. It costs a lot to get into. Yet, there's no other game like it. I'll gladly pay for the hundreds of hours of enjoyment I get from it. I guess it's my MMO.

Anyway. Yeah, I'm totally want this game.

I was originally so bitter about the cartoony art-style (feeling some sort of unearned entitlement from playing since the original sims and buying most every expansion), but I think I can appreciate it just by thinking of it in this way:

If they have a certain art direction they're going for, and do it well, I really can't be mad.

Still not crazy about the interface looking/controlling as if it was pulled straight out of touchscreen apps, though. :( I'll find a way to justify that to myself some day.

All I want is a Sims game that isn't a bug ridden, poorly optimized, nearly unplayable mess.

There's a Sim 4? When was this announced?

More curious about the "new build tools". Most of my time in Sims games is spent trying to design realistic houses. Particularly ones with a basement (I think they later added a basement tool?) and tiered roofs and such. Just wish they'd let you design the whole neighborhood itself though with custom plot placement etc

Here's a link to my album of two houses I did in Sims 3 when it first came out.

SeikenFreak's Custom Sims 3 Houses

I'd also like to know if this will come out for PS4. PS4 does allow mouse/keyboard use and my problem with Sims on the PC is that over time the game just gets uninstalled or HDD wipe and I lose all the data.

I can't imagine Alex covering the Sims games let alone playing it.

I've always wanted to get into the Sims, but the amount of DLC/expansions (also me having an average/below average PC) for previous Sims has turned me off.

The concept of Sims is just totally fascinating, and I could imagine getting really invested in playing around with the characters, and thinking about social interaction, appearance, life-long development etc.

As long as this doesn't chug like the Sims 3 did, i'll be happy. The constant pause before a sim takes any action removes any chance for natural interaction and imo, breaks the simulation considerably. Not to mention, of course, the constant frame hitches and crashes. I'm not exactly running on a potato here.

Yep, another Sims purchase for me. Why wouldn't I want to pull and push that ass?

@vigil80: I still play the sims 3 once in a while with 3 expansions installed and It does slow down when you have all that installed. The worst bugs I've had are the people getting stuck at the elevator and nobody going home and the bartender not serving drinks and just resetting.

The sims is a series that is very fun but I always get burned out halfway because I want to get to the "end game", a big family, a good career, lots of money, huge mansion.

I've always found things to enjoy about The Sims. I'm just not looking forward to seeing how aggressive their plan is for DLC and expansions.

I'd pay a hundred bucks as long as the game ran reasonably well. Sims 3 chugs and had some serious bugs last time I checked, especially once the expansions were stacked on.

I wish I could be optimistic for this, but I just know they're going to charge hundreds of dollars for day one DLC again while leaving only a paltry amount of items in the standard release. Hopefully the game will run better at the very least.

I loved The Sims 3, but I sure did feel burned buying it on release for a number of reasons.

Now we just need a sims game that doesn't make me feel weird for playing it. 'Shouldn't I just go outside and live? Nahhhhhhh"

There was a free user created content thing on the sims 3 website if I recall correctly. I remember getting houses other people built from it.

Did he just describe someones walk as 'swag'?

Is that even a thing we're doing now?