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Edited by BurningStickMan

Nice.  Now I just need to get to actually playing Dragon Age 1.
 
STOP MAKING AAA TITLES!  JESUS!  FOR LIKE A FEW MINUTES, PEOPLE...  I need time to catch up!

Edited by Animasta

this should be good...

Edited by Kontrapunkt

Hooray!!! DA2!
 
Some cool insight here.

Posted by knownspace

As long as they don't change the gore covered post battle conversations I'll give this a chance.

Posted by Tesla

Now I want to play Dragon Age this weekend.

Posted by Gap

The opening cinematic at the battle of ostagar... christ, it felt like a LotR battle.

Posted by AlisterCat

I WANT combat that is like dice rolls. That's the point. I don't want responsive combat, Dragon Age is not Dynasty Warriors.

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Posted by Delta_Ass

Sounds like much needed improvements were made.

Posted by knownspace
@AlisterCat said:
" I WANT combat that is like dice rolls. That's the point. I don't want responsive combat, Dragon Age is not Dynasty Warriors. "
A happy medium is possible though, Two Worlds 2 actually manages to do it quite well.
Posted by stinky

needs multiplayer

Posted by MisterMouse

good insight in to the game here.

Posted by Dallas_Raines
@AlisterCat:  
 
Play the PC version, then.
Posted by TheChaos
@AlisterCat said:
"Dragon Age is not Dynasty Warriors. "
Yet.
Posted by phrosnite

DRAGON AGE 2! WANT! THIS! NAO!

Posted by Zeemod

Are the number of people that need this quest diminishing? Long live the GB community!

Posted by nintendoeats

Yes, its an ARPG now! Maybe I will like this one...

Posted by endaround

This is how you kill a franchise

Posted by myslead

so they made Mass Effect in Dragon Age...

Posted by Meteora

Hopefully it turns out good.

Posted by The_Joker
@myslead:  You say that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by Jimbo

So they had already decided the direction they wanted to take DA2 in (Xtreme, bro!) before DA was even out?  Figured as much.  I think they assumed DA:Origins would be rejected by console gamers, and by the time they realised they were wrong they were already well into DA2.
 
It's also amusing how they set out the Dragon Age universe to be this grim and grounded Martinesque low(er) fantasy setting, and then in the sequel they've had to introduce a framed narrative in order to justify your character being able to kill enemies 'by the million'.  It's fantasy; if they wanted a regular ass OTT fantasy setting, why did they bother with setting it up differently in the first place?
 
It'll still be a good game -because Bioware don't make bad games- but it's kinda sad to see them backtracking on so many things, especially after they tried something a little less safe with Origins and the market (PC & console) rewarded them for it. 

Posted by ArbitraryWater

Well, it still looks like a Bioware game. So I am automatically sold.

Posted by Simulacrum

So looking forward to this.

Edited by Dallas_Raines
@Jimbo:  
 
Dragon Age was already Xtreme with the constant gore, terrible sex scenes and the Marilyn Manson marketing. Although they had a Jared Leto song, so I guess it balanced out.
Posted by 2HeadedNinja

I only want to know how the combat plays on the PC ... thats the only thing that keeps me from preordering it.

Posted by minorinya
@Gap: Only to people who don't know much about fantasy outside of Lord of the Rings.
Posted by Colonel_Fury

I'm looking forward to this game. Bioware hasn't put out a bad game yet, so I have faith in them to deliver in DA 2.

Posted by crusader8463

Literally every thing they said they were doing to "improve" the game makes me sad and is the exact opposite of what I want from a Dragon Age game.  The first game was one of my favorite games in over a decade, and it makes me sick to see them going out of their way to dumb it down for the console kids.
 
Please Bioware, stop trying to dumb down all your games. You are one of the few people who still make RPG's with any kind of production value. If I wanted to play a brainless game I would play Halo or Call of Duty. I want my RPG's to have complexity.

Posted by RYNO9881

"we're trying to make a game that we would find fun to play" 
 
That is how good games are made. Love that line.

Edited by Undeadpool

It's wonderful that, despite Bioware's essentially perfect track record, there are STILL doomsayers who think this game is going to not just be bad, but straight-up suck. Change does not equal bad and streamlined does not equal dumbed down. This is Bioware, folks, let's not lose sight of that. As for those who don't want "cutting down murlocks by the millions," did you play the final act of the game? They essentially made all normal-level enemies one-hit kills. 
The problem with "dice-rolling" combat like you found in the Baldur's Gate games, in Dragon Age and even in World of Warcraft is that it feels like your character is doing a canned animation and then the enemy is taking damage, it doesn't feel like there's a point of impact. This looks like it's going to change that.

Posted by ky326
@nintendoeats said:
" Yes, its an ARPG now! Maybe I will like this one... "
this
Posted by NoXious

Dragon Age + Mass Effect! YES! I am sold.
Dragon Age wasn't bad, but what I loved about Baldur's Gate II was that it told a story of a Bhaalspawn and you had little effect on that story. It was your interactions within that story that you controlled.
This is exactly what they want to do with Dragon Age 2! I hope it beats Baldur's Gate 2.

Posted by MrGetBonus

The direction they are taking this game is making me a little nervous, but hopefully it's good.

Posted by Johnny5

Eh the truth is pretty clear. They want to make it so its more appropriate for consoles, plain and simple. Its a smart move because theres more money in it for them.  Having two different versions is just annoying because one will always be the primary game.  
 
On other things I like the character design of the main character, to be honest I love crafting my own character but I'd prefer if he was more narratively involved. Its hard to be immersed when hes standing there with a dumb blank look on his face the entire game.  
 
That said I played Dragon Age for 80 hours straight between sleeping and sometimes eating, and I think this will be just fine. 

Edited by dsd21

Okay.. I'll give it a try, but I do not like the way this is heading. This is no longer spiritual successor to Baulder's Gate whatsoever.

Posted by Oldirtybearon
@Undeadpool said:
" It's wonderful that, despite Bioware's essentially perfect track record, there are STILL doomsayers who think this game is going to not just be bad, but straight-up suck. Change does not equal bad and streamlined does not equal dumbed down. This is Bioware, folks, let's not lose sight of that. As for those who don't want "cutting down murlocks by the millions," did you play the final act of the game? They essentially made all normal-level enemies one-hit kills. The problem with "dice-rolling" combat like you found in the Baldur's Gate games, in Dragon Age and even in World of Warcraft is that it feels like your character is doing a canned animation and then the enemy is taking damage, it doesn't feel like there's a point of impact. This looks like it's going to change that. "
Hit the nail on the head there. Combat is not being turned into Dynasty Warriors, what's happening is that when I press the A button or I press a "talent" button, it'll do it with no moving around to get into the just right position to then use the canned animation. So many of my kills were stolen because apparently my guy wasn't far away enough or wasn't centered just right. 
 
why people are upset about the console version being more console-friendly, I have no idea. BioWare has said before that the PC version will play very close to the first Dragon Age.
Posted by dbz1995

Oh my god they didn't use the word 'innovative'. This is madness!

Posted by valrog

Goddamn conversation wheel...

Posted by null
@AlisterCat:
Dude, it doesn't need to be Dynasty Warriors. What if they could come up with an Arkham Asylum-style combat system, and incorporate that into the game? That would be fucking amazing. Now, I can understand if you just want the strategy and tactics of a typical 'classical rpg'. But that was always my main caveat with those old-school bioware games, I simply don't find dice rolls to be immersive or compelling at all. It's just a very detached, disconnected and kind of boring experience to me. I want more control and fluidity than that, I want to feel like a badass in the game.
Posted by Drakkel

Am I crazy for being sad that even Bioware is giving up on the RPG format?

Posted by Zimbo

I enjoyed Dragon Age but I love Mass Effect. A happy medium would be perfect. 

To the naysayers complaining about its similarities to a certain other Bioware franchise. Do you really think this game is going to suck? Really? It may be different but I bet it will still be good. Bioware is the only dev to never actually let me down on a game.

Posted by BetonneTom

Yess! finally i have a game that i am genuinely looking forward to! 
 
i loved dragon age, maybe even because it was so oldscool but change often times does good things.  
still like 3 months but maybe ill will even pre-order it somewhere 

Posted by UberExplodey

I've had this preordered since forever...fucking March can't come soon enough

Posted by LovermanOwens

I am excited for this game but I am nervous about where they are taking the gameplay.  Then again I felt the same way for ME2 and it turned balls out epic.  I have faith that the good folks at Bioware can bring a quality experience to the table.
Posted by Death_Unicorn

I can't wait!

Posted by pwnasaurus

fuck bioware we liked its combat style they would screw up the one game they make that i really like.

Posted by MoistJohn

That lady has video game boobs.

Posted by Nomin

Would they have the temerity to call this some semblance of successor to Baldur's Gate that gave up ghost eons ago now? Come on now, I dare them. Essentially Dragon Age: Mass Effect, the developers saw how little work of streamlining to the consoles made everything that much better for the second installment of that 'Action RPG', so isn't it only natural introducing the same dumbed down concepts to this game as well. Oh don't worry, it will still have a laughably limited and linear story with castaways only possibly conceived by fanboys lurching left and right to any NPCs with boobs on them, with more EXTREME elements including but not limited to those silly canned animation quick time events and overwrought blood splashes, topped with overbearing marketing blaring with some generic metal trope. Boy, Bioware sure knows how to pander to their base and I thought Jade Empire was an abhorrent change of vision.  
 
Yes, fancy art and a pretty trailer courtesy of some outsourcing and whatnot, but how about gameplay? Go to Youtube, there are videos for your revelatory experience. Hack and slash, stiff and repetitive at that, bolstered with replenished health meter and severely trimmed skills system are what portends to be the biggest features of the next year's biggest RPG. And no, your character will not carry over and some pansy named Hawke with a debonair goatee will hijack your experience from the first game. So edgy and radical! And EXTREME! Rise to the power begins on March 8!

Posted by LordCmdrStryker
@Nomin: Did Bioware kick your dog?
Posted by 2HeadedNinja
@Zimbo said:
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I enjoyed Dragon Age but I love Mass Effect. A happy medium would be perfect. 

To the naysayers complaining about its similarities to a certain other Bioware franchise. Do you really think this game is going to suck? Really? It may be different but I bet it will still be good. Bioware is the only dev to never actually let me down on a game.

"

Its not that much about the game "sucking" ... but it does sound like this is going to be a very streamlined version of Dragon Age. And I for one loved DA:O for what it was, an oldschool experience with a great combat system (on the PC) and thats what I want out of DA2. Everything else I have no problem with, the artstyle, the lack of choice on your own character etc. 
 
But if they make it a hack'n'slash (and for me thats what it looks like) thats not what I want out of that game. Does that mean the game will be bad? Probably not. It will probably cater to a bigger audience (which I guess is kind of the point) but I assume a lot of people who liked DA:O for what it was would just be disappointed if some of the core parts of what made the game what it is are stipped out just to make it "faster".
 
And thats why I personally are cautious. If they would just give me a clear idea on how the combat plays on PC and that combat would be close to DA:O I would be all over this game.
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