Man, I forgot how great the music is in this game - that theme that gets played during quiet moments is AMAZING, and always hits particularly hard. It just feels like the world is completely lost and you don't know what to do.

@NorthernBoreus:

It was@NorthernBoreus said:

@Natedogg2 said:

I'm surprised by how many people cut off Lee's arm. I didn't, and it wasn't even a close choice for me.

The Walking Dead comics and the TV show have a bit of a track record with cutting off limbs to stop the effects of the bite, so I had reason to believe it might work. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have done it.

I don't really mean this in a aggressive or insulting manner, but I can't figure out how to word it otherwise. It was a significant amount of time (for the purposes here, more than a couple minutes tops) between the bite and when the decision came up. If you seriously thought it would make a difference by that point, then you've got problems. Presumably you'd make that decision based on zombie fiction (medical science is pretty clear on the fact ruling out that avenue) and thus you'd also know it only makes a difference if you instantly cut off the limb, not wait around a bit before doing so.

There is, quite literally, no scenario in which you (as the player) could come to the conclusion that cutting it off long after the fact would make a difference. Whichever way you learned about that option (scientific fact or zombie fiction) both reject the idea in this instance.

Edit: The fact that cutting off the arm does make a positive difference in the game (although not to the point of saving his life) is just bogus compared to everything else out there, even in the Walking Dead fiction. Was really quite insulting when I found out that fact.

@Spiritof said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

HOW CAN YOU LET CLEM SHOT LEE YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS

I had her do it in service of the story. Lee had been her teacher and guardian throughout the entire game, and I thought, as ugly as it might be, Clem needed to learn that hard times will bring hard decisions. I didn't want Clem going back out into that world without being able to do the hard thing.

A thousand times this. I figured it was the last lesson to teach, and in the game I've put self preservation above mercy above everything else. This is both. Shoot me, preserve yourself, show me mercy. It's the tough choice, but it was what I felt was the right choice to let her go out in that world and have the best chance of surviving.

@Thoseposers said:

this just reminds me of how awfully shitty the facial animation in that game was

There are some great moments in there, especially when Clem finds out that Lee was bitten.

Also, I'm completely regretting my decision of

It made for a better ending but I feel pretty bad right now ;_;

If you didn't tell Clem "don't be afraid" and have her shoot you, you doomed her to her death.

@CounterShock said:

If you didn't tell Clem "don't be afraid" and have her shoot you, you doomed her to her death.

How do you figure? So that she's more self reliant? Remember though, gunshots bring the attention of the horde and she also wasted a bullet.

@audioBusting said:

@Pop said:

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I really think most people cut Lee's arm off cause of the TV show where they cut Hershel's leg and he lives. I didn't cut the hand it won't change anythingI really think most people cut Lee's arm off cause of the TV show where they cut Hershel's leg and he lives. I didn't cut the hand it won't change anything

I cut Lee's hand because (comic spoiler?)

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Rick cut his off and survived, so I thought it's worth a try.

@GetEveryone: Oops, you're right. I got things mixed up because

Not as if everyone has been talking about the ending and the decisions that were made. Still it was nice to see them play out. I feel more inclined to buy the first season given how the story ends.

@MikeW1980UK said:

Anyone who got Clem to shoot Lee are bad people.

I thought it was appropriate.

I didn't want to go back to hunt her, and if someone was going to kill me, I thought fitting to be her.

Most of the options were like the ones I did, except for the bust. The moment I saw the prompt, I thought "God, Lee is going to bash his head with it", and didn't do it...

I wonder what other people thought to go for it.

@Spiritof said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

HOW CAN YOU LET CLEM SHOT LEE YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS

I had her do it in service of the story. Lee had been her teacher and guardian throughout the entire game, and I thought, as ugly as it might be, Clem needed to learn that hard times will bring hard decisions. I didn't want Clem going back out into that world without being able to do the hard thing.

This, and since I like to get into the stories, I thought it was necessary for clem to have closure with Lee, unlike what she got from her parents.

Is it just the TV series that establishes that being bitten/scratched has nothing to do with turning ? Seems like a pretty easy choice if you have that context...

Also "70 GOTY"... really... I'd like to see how inflated that list is. Counting it up and bragging about it just seems tacky.

@CounterShock said:

If you didn't tell Clem "don't be afraid" and have her shoot you, you doomed her to her death.

This. It's easy to shoot zombies you don't know and psycopathic kidnappers who try to kill you and your only caretaker. Lee arguably taught her more with his death than he did through the rest of the game.

I made a horrible choice buying the game. PC version is still broken and Telltale won't even recognize there's a problem.

@JetForceGemini: What's wrong on your end?

@MikeW1980UK: Shhhhhhut uuuuup!

@alibson said:

People who cut off the arm are complete idiots. If he's already passing out from the virus that means it's reached the brain, cutting the arm off would do jack shit.

Maybe I didn't need to be mentally cross-referencing the show and game, but cutting off a limb in the show seems to have worked for someone. I knew Lee had let too much time pass, but any chance I could give Lee to have more time, I owed it to Clem to take it...

It was a decision I struggled with and made the call in the moment and I'm actually surprised it's the same call that most people made (especially since I only had Kenny with me and not a big crowd of disapproving faces to guilt me in to it).

EDIT:

Thought process: Lee is doomed anyway, this may or may not help, and any chance I can take - even the slightest - that would keep Lee alive longer to find Clem is the right choice. "This probably won't help" is definitely a thought that went through my head while Kenny was busy cutting.

@MikeW1980UK said:

Anyone who got Clem to shoot Lee are bad people.

agreed

I chopped Lee's arm off mostly just to see if it had an effect on gameplay.

@LarryDavis said:

@MikeW1980UK said:

Anyone who got Clem to shoot Lee are bad people.

agreed

Disagree. While it's a shitty thing to do, it's probably the best thing you can do to prepare her for what she may have to do in the future. I think the most merciful thing you could have done would be to kill Clem, and then yourself, but the game doesn't even give you the option to do that.

@Random45: Clem's killed walkers, faced starvation, seen human meat, been kidnapped, keep her cool and dispatched of her abductor, and seen her dead parents come back she's plenty ready the the awful new world. She'll undoubtedly have to kill other loved ones down the road; she doesn't need to kill Lee.

This made me certain that this was the best story in a Video game I have ever played. I've never been this powerfully impacted by seeing a video of a game I have already played.

Great game.

@Random45 said:

@LarryDavis said:

@MikeW1980UK said:

Anyone who got Clem to shoot Lee are bad people.

agreed

Disagree. While it's a shitty thing to do, it's probably the best thing you can do to prepare her for what she may have to do in the future. I think the most merciful thing you could have done would be to kill Clem, and then yourself, but the game doesn't even give you the option to do that.

I also got her to shoot me. She's had enough with her parents being outside; I didn't want her to go through that with Lee. Make sure, teach her to always remember it's better a loved one is gone than they are trying to eat you.

@wewantsthering:@EpicSteve: It was a pretty cold move in my opinion.

You can make the argument that Nazi Zombie mode in Call of Duty is the vastly superior zombie product, but c'mon. It’s different when it’s a woman, this is over the line, and Reznov should have known better.

@Mykander said:

@NorthernBoreus:

It was@NorthernBoreus said:

@Natedogg2 said:

I'm surprised by how many people cut off Lee's arm. I didn't, and it wasn't even a close choice for me.

The Walking Dead comics and the TV show have a bit of a track record with cutting off limbs to stop the effects of the bite, so I had reason to believe it might work. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have done it.

I don't really mean this in a aggressive or insulting manner, but I can't figure out how to word it otherwise. It was a significant amount of time (for the purposes here, more than a couple minutes tops) between the bite and when the decision came up. If you seriously thought it would make a difference by that point, then you've got problems. Presumably you'd make that decision based on zombie fiction (medical science is pretty clear on the fact ruling out that avenue) and thus you'd also know it only makes a difference if you instantly cut off the limb, not wait around a bit before doing so.

There is, quite literally, no scenario in which you (as the player) could come to the conclusion that cutting it off long after the fact would make a difference. Whichever way you learned about that option (scientific fact or zombie fiction) both reject the idea in this instance.

Edit: The fact that cutting off the arm does make a positive difference in the game (although not to the point of saving his life) is just bogus compared to everything else out there, even in the Walking Dead fiction. Was really quite insulting when I found out that fact.

I had them cut Lee's arm off. This wasn't because I expected Lee to not end up a zombie. The bite was going to bring him down, but maybe by chopping off the limb he'd be given some extra time to find and rescue Clem. While I haven't read every issue of the comics, I have read a good 75+ and don't recall anything that indicates amputation would not slow down zombification. There are definitely situations where timing is critical for preventing zombification, but nothing that says you won't get a few more hours/days from amputation. It's especially iffy when you consider the rate people turn from a zombie bite isn't consistent.

If cutting off Lee's arm, a man who has essentially been given a death sentence, might provide some more time to protect a little girl, then my version of Lee would chop it off.

@KamikazeKritter: That's commendable and all, but even since Chuck gave the rude wakening of reality, you know that her innocence is just a distance fantasy. With Lee still alive and kicking all the time, maybe we can still spare her innocence and let Lee do all the dirty work and flower it up with words. But when she has to go on by herself she has to know how to protect herself instead of her innocence. It's a tough call but that's what I've convinced myself is the best option in the end.

@idlehands:

I can see your point but I just think she didn't need to shoot him to know how to protect herself. At the start I tried to shield her from everything, sugar coating every situation because she was just a kid, but as it went on I started to tell her more of the hard truth because I knew she couldn't survive thinking everything would always be ok. I feel as though she knew enough by the end without putting her through the horror of putting a bullet in Lee's head. She had killed someone already, held her own against walkers so I knew she would be ok.

To me, ending it with Lee being left might make Clem think before she shoots (I know this could go against her at some point if someone means to hurt her) while ending it with shooting Lee might make her more ruthless (which could also go against her if someone is genuinely trying to help her).

Even though I do think shooting him is cold I can see why people did it, to prepare her for all the terrible things she inevitably will have to face. But I just feel that Lee prepared her for that without her having to obliterate her innocence entirely in the process.

@dr_mantas said:

Well this has no emotional impact because Clem is dressed completely wrong... hmph...

How does she get that hoodie? I keep seeing it in these recap videos, and Clem in my game never had it. She just had her standard dress, except at some point she magically gained leggings and sleeves (maybe around the start of episode 2 because it's suddenly fall).

Do you get the hoodie if you steal from the station wagon, LIKE A COMMON THIEF?

@BisonHero: Yeah, you get it if you take the stuff from the car at the end of episode two...I never took the stuff either :)