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Let's Spoil Beyond: Two Souls

Polygon's oldest brother, Justin McElroy, and Kotaku's resident musician, Kirk Hamilton, join us to ponder David Cage's latest.

Nov. 6 2013

Posted by: Patrick

In This Episode:

Beyond: Two Souls

David Cage

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Kinda lost for words, in a great way. Thank you Patrick, despite working separate from the other folks and offices you make these miracles. Games Journalism 3.0 maybe? I've only got love for this stuff.

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Wait a minute, JUSTIN IS A SMOKER? MY WORLD VIEW IS SHATTERED. Can't wait to listen to this. Great line-up!

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If I haven't played the game but spoiled myself the story because I will never buy it on PS3, and it won't come out on PC, is this worth listening to?

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MBMBAM

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@nodima: Uh, I'm just assuming you've never been stoned before, because hookah won't do it.

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@justinmcelroy said:

For those asking, it's a Vamo V3 with a Mini Vivi Nova tank. I believe I was using Halo's Belgian Cocoa flavor at the time, if that knowledge in some way enhances your enjoyment of the video.

LYLAS,

Justin

Actually, it's pretty cool seeing someone else use an e-cig considering when I'm seen smoking mine I live with "What the fuck is that?" and/or "Why don't you just smoke?"

Huh, so it does enhance my enjoyment of the video. Odd.

On topic, I honestly feel like you could replace every mention of "David Cage" with "Hideo Kojima" in this video and it wouldn't be out of place. Specifically the points about needing an editor, co-writer, or just a goddamn "is this ok, y/n?" guy.

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For those asking, it's a Vamo V3 with a Mini Vivi Nova tank. I believe I was using Halo's Belgian Cocoa flavor at the time, if that knowledge in some way enhances your enjoyment of the video.

LYLAS,

Justin

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I actually really loved Beyond Two Souls because I got pretty immersed in it, but I would agree that the story felt really disjointed. There is definitely a lot to like though. Some of the dumb storytelling is honestly no different that a lot of what's on tv or in film these days. I feel like it's kind of forgivable, although I wish it were better. I guess that's what I'd say about Beyond, "I wish it were better."

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Good that he's using an e-cigarette. Ideally, no smoking at all would be best, but an e-cigarette is far, far, far, far healthier than tobacco cigarettes. Nicotine isn't harmless, but out of all the things in a tobacco cigarette, it is the least harmful substance (if you don't count the addiction, that is).

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Couldn't watch this fast enough. This is FANTASTIC! I can't push enough for more spoilercasts!! (Rev3's spoiled games is amazing as well) Like, I play videogames to completion and I'd like to know what peoples thoughts are unchained, especially when it comes to a game with a important story and that is happening more and more these days.

Fantastic Work, @patrickklepek@alex Kirk and of course the amazing McElroy brother. <33

GIVEMEMOREE :D

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I managed to catch most of this yesterday while it was being recorded (thanks Google+ notifications!), I feel like a cheater.

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This is awesommmeeeee

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Oh and loved the spoiler cast, great stuff. If I could be allowed one recommendation, as a personal request, don't jump cut back and forth when someone is laughing or quickly responding in a conversation. Really breaks the flow because of how quickly you're jumping.

I wish Google+ had more video controls. Apparently YouTube Live does, but we don't have access to that.

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My resume has only one thing.

Videogame Expert.

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God, I would give so much monies to see Justin come work at GB. He is one of my favorite people ever.

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Does look a bit like mine and thought I saw a whiff of the water vapor at one point. If anyone is considering trying them out, fucking excellent. You're still getting the nicotine but all the other downsides go away and it's helped me cut back a LOT -

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Oh and loved the spoiler cast, great stuff. If I could be allowed one recommendation, as a personal request, don't jump cut back and forth when someone is laughing or quickly responding in a conversation. Really breaks the flow because of how quickly you're jumping.

However I guess that's maybe being done automatically by the capture? If it is can you build in like a .5 second delay to avoid the rapid cuts?

Hell, just a personal preference though and again, great work @patrickklepek :)

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I will listen to this even if Justin isn't an expert and his advice should never be followed. Also, I haven't played the game, but I don't think I will, so I'll go right ahead.

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Hookah does give you a VERY limited purview of what being stoned is like, though. Suddenly the whole Justin McElroy world view makes a little more sense.

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@excast said:

PS. Is Justin smoking pot in the beginning of the video?

It's probably a hookah. Basically flavored tobacco filtered through water.

you cant fool us, Justin Mcelroy

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I flippin' love Justin and all the Mcelroys.

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Edited By jacksukeru

When I saw this I was at first disappointed that I hadn't played the game and wouldn't be able to watch it, but then I remembered I wasn't going to play the game anyway so I shouldn't care about having it spoiled.

Let's do this!

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@tennmuerti:

Looks to me like he's drinking out of a drink out of a straw.

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@scrawnto said:

@tennmuerti said:

@excast said:

PS. Is Justin smoking pot in the beginning of the video?

It's probably a hookah. Basically flavored tobacco filtered through water.

It could be an electronic cigarette. The one my mom has looks sort of like that. He mentioned he was using one of those on the Tobacco episode of the history of medicine podcast, Sawbones, which he does with his wife.

Yea that's a good possibility too. And now that I re watched the opening bit that's seems like the most likely case.

Just the way he was holding it made me instantly think of a hookah.

EDIT: yea at 22 mins he takes it out on screen and you're right it's an e-cigarette.

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@morningstar: That is a great idea. I thought I would have to remember to fish this out when I'm done with the game. Thanks for the tip

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You guys are silly. It's an electronic cigarette.

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RoboGif Kirk is a good Kirk.

Also, this was a GREAT interview. So many subjects/topics were covered for one game (hell, sounds so crazy that I might have to get it after all).

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@excast said:

PS. Is Justin smoking pot in the beginning of the video?

It's probably a hookah. Basically flavored tobacco filtered through water.

It could be an electronic cigarette. The one my mom has looks sort of like that. He mentioned he was using one of those on the Tobacco episode of the history of medicine podcast, Sawbones, which he does with his wife.

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shit i thought this was gonna be something good :(

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yo excast, you wouldn't know whats up with the Kirk would you? he looks like some kind of animated jpg, is the Kirk using a tablet or something?

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@excast said:

PS. Is Justin smoking pot in the beginning of the video?

It's probably a hookah. Basically flavored tobacco filtered through water.

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is Justin getting blazed the whole time?

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@morningstar: That is a great idea. I thought I would have to remember to fish this out when I'm done with the game. Thanks for the tip

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Hey Patrick, why is Kirk's video so weird? It's like he is on an iPad or something. It's basically a GIF.

PS. Is Justin smoking pot in the beginning of the video?

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Cool stuff. Will download it and watch after I finish the game.

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(Yes, we're aware Kirk's video is weird. He had to chime in on an iPad, and it was basically a live GIF.)